Samsung and Panasonic 3D Press Events (Video and Photos) - Page 2

Its CGI animation, and I don't recall hearing any complaints during its 3D theatrical run.  I think it is probably a combination of multiple things.

I know it's CGI, I saw it projected, and its faults have been discussed among 3-D practitioners.


Richard

Some good stuff.
Curious to see other reports and opinions.
I will be getting a 3D TV.
A gift from the IRS.
Playstation goes 3D in June.
I still plan on getting a 3D player

Playstation has already announced two 3D games.

I'll sick back for a few months and see all the reports, and make my decision which TV to get.

I was at Best Buy yesterday and they had a Samsung 55 inch with Monsters vs. Aliens playing. The picture was razor sharp and I did not see any ghosting. The 3-D looked kind of boring with nothing coming out of the screen and not that much depth. Maybe if they had it in a darkened room the 3-D would look better. I know that in most of the 3-D movies today they try not to have anything poking out of the screen at you. But to get people exited about wanting to buy a 3-D TV, they should have something coming out of the screen as part of the demo. Put the TV in a darkened room, show a clip from Monsters vs. Aliens and also clips from other films like Fly Me To The Moon which have some out of the screen effect scenes.

For some reason the sound was turned off. There was only one pair of 3-D glasses. I had to wait till another person was done with it even though it was set up for two pairs. There were some reflections on the screen. The gun scene you are talking about did not appear to come out of the screen. I saw this movie at a movie theatre and was very impressed with the 3-D. When they show 3-D trailers at movie theatres, the lights are still on and this diminishes the 3-D. I think the same may hold true for 3-D TV's although it does not need to be completely dark, just no reflections on the screen.

A few years ago when there were no 3-D Blu-ray's, I saw a demo of the Mitsubishi 73 inch 3-D TV where they showed various 3-D clips in a darkened room. I was blown away then. To get people exited about 3-D, show your demo on the largest 3-D TV you have, in a darkened room, with multiple 3-D scenes from multiple movies.

Regarding the problem of "ghosting"......  I have yet to see a 3-D film in theaters that does NOT have "ghosting" in it. I don't think this TV ghosting is Samsung's fault. It is a fault of this stupid 3-D system in general. I was around in 1953-54 for the B'WANA DEVIL to KISS ME KATE 3-D rage. It simply DOES NOT WORK without ENORMOUS flaws! AVATAR is interesting simply because it hadn't really been applied to a big budget film since KISS ME KATE and DIAL M FOR MURDER. BUT....it is a FLAWED process....a 19th century technology. It just doesn't WORK very well. I predict there will be this momentary love affair with 3-D all over again, as there was in '53 and '54....but the fascination will die as it did then. This is an attempt to get consumers buying again. Folks, use your BRAINS, not your greedy balance sheets........this is a recession/depression......people don't have the money to buy this flawed system. HD was a magnificent nearly NEW way of watching TV. Cinerama was a magnificent nearly NEW way of watching movies. (Replaced by a cheap and flawed Cinemascope process that killed Cinerama and in turn died out in the 60s.) They were MAJOR upgrades. Bluray is NOT a major upgrade over standard DVD and has slowly caught on ONLY through the power of advertising....but I do NOT think that lightning will strike twice and advertising save 3-D TV. Holographic TV and Motion Pictures have been waiting in the wings for over 20 years since I first saw them demonstrated on the TOMORROW show several decades ago. Why waste time with 3-D which is ultimately a pain in having to deal with the glasses and is only of momentary interest when we already HAVE the techbology for HoloTV and HoloFilm? This is simply a repeat of '53 - '54 all over again. I can tell you from having been there.....today's 3-D is absolutely NO BETTER than it was In HOUSE OF WAX, IT CAME FROM OUTER SPACE and the rest of the 3-D ilk in the 50s. This is a non-starter.....just a blip on the entertainment horizon. Our theaters in CT announced they are raising ALL prices by $2 to $5 so that they can install 3-D in EVERY "room." What stupid jerks. By 1956 the first craze was dead as a doornail. By 2012 this one will be also.

Next time you are there check out the scene where she is fighting the robot on the bridge, Look at the guide-wires.  About 5-10 minutes after that look at the scene where she is talking to her fiance by the billboard and where she is at the gas station.  Its pretty bad on these last few scenes.


It was most obvious on their LED/LCD sets, less obvious on their plasma, and least obvious on the Panasonic 3D Plasma, so I think Samsung might not be completely to blame, but is a contributor.

I'm really looking forward to Panasonic's Plasma 3DTV which won best of CES
The one in particular is the Panasonic's TC-PVT25 (50 inch) that I'm looking to get.
May/June is the expected releaser date.

I bought my Sanyo Z4 720p front projector in 2006. Its on the second bulb (came free with the purchase). When that goes, I will be looking for a 1080p 3-D ready front projector. I hope there will be a good selection of Blu-ray 3D movies including those from the 1950's at that time.

Roland brings up a good point that I don't think has been addressed.

All of the 3D movies from the 1950's used the two color anaglyph method to create the 3D effect.  Is there any way that these movies could be "converted" into the new 3D format?  Is such a conversion even possible?  I imagine it would be a completely different process than the "2D to 3D" conversion we're seeing done to current and existing titles.

Doing a "anaglyph 3D to polarized 3D" conversion could be tricky, and in the least would require that original film elements for each eye would need to be available.  If the separate fields are found, would they already be colored for the anaglyph process thus needing to be color corrected?  Once color corrected, it would be pretty straightforward to convert to the modern 3D, but getting the raw fields is going to be tricky.

Hopefully some experts can weigh in on this, but my gut tells me that most (if not all) of the older 3D movies are not really going to experience a "rennaissance" due to the new 3D spec.

Wrong. The 3-D boom of the 50s was precipitated by the polaroid process, so the vast majority of 3-D films produced during this period were shot and projected in that format. You may have been confused by their conversion to anaglyph in the early 1980s for TV broadcast (since CRTs cannot replicate a polarized process) during the second "SpaceVision" boom. The current Real D and Dolby 3D processes are also polaroid, but instead of using horizontal and vertical polariztion, they use clockwise and counterclockwise polarization so that your head doesn't have to be perfectly vertical to eliminate ghosting. I would prefer to wait for this process to come home before I invest in home 3D

Panasonic's 3D 50 is out now, its a Magnolia Home Theater/Best Buy exclusive until the 54 and 65 inch versions come out later this summer.  Its a very nice set.

I predict there will be this momentary love affair with 3-D all over again, as there was in '53 and '54....but the fascination will die as it did then. This is an attempt to get consumers buying again. Folks, use your BRAINS, not your greedy balance sheets........this is a recession/depression......people don't have the money to buy this flawed system.


I have to agree with this information

I am not going to bother seeing any more 3D films in the cinema, it adds nothing to the viewing experience :(

it just drains my bank account faster, and reduces the picture quality - specifically in terms of picture brightness and contrast, and adds ghosting when the camera suddenly pans during a scene, and I don't enjoy having a cheap pair of disposable plastic glasses between my naked eyeball and the cinema screen (I've been wearing Oakley sunglasses for many years, so any "cheap" glasses just cause optical distortion)

I've been interested to view the "new 3D" movies like Final Destination 4, UP, Avatar, and Alice in Wonderland, and have re-watched these in 2D to compare with the 3D presentation

today I went to see "Clash of the Titans", I saw it in 2D because 3D is not attractive to me...its a gimmick

its just a 'cash cow', and a tool to defeat bit-torrent download piracy


I cannot wait until proper 3-dimensional "holographic" viewing is available, until then its just a gimmick rely on a "trick" in the way your eyes and brain process information

I don't think 3-D will die out as it did in 53 and 54. Below is the list of 3-D movies released and to be released. The Masters golf tournament was just broadcast in 3-D. ESPN will start broadcasting 3-D in June. Discovery, Sony Corp. and Imax Corp. announced a joint venture to introduce a 3-D channel in 2011. Samsung and Mitsubishi have been selling 3-D TV's since 2007. We now have Blu-ray 3D.  I saw a 3-D commercial for cat food as a preview to a 3-D movie recently. I think it will be around for a very long time.

If you have Showcase Cinemas near you, check out if they have reduce ticket prices during the week. We have one that charges only $6 for all movies, all times on Tuesdays. That's my 3-D movie night!

2004:
1. The Polar Express

2005:
1. Chicken Little

2006:
1. Superman Returns (last 20 minutes digitally converted to IMAX 3D)
2. Monster House
3. Open Season
4. Ant Bully
5. Nightmare Before Christmas

2007:
1. Meet The Robinsons
2. Harry Potter And The Order Of The Phoenix (last 20 mins will be digitally converted for IMAX)
3. Beowulf (Nov 16)

2008:
1. U2 3D (February)
2. Hannah Montana/Miley Cyrus: Best of Both Worlds Concert Tour (February)
3. Journey To The Center Of The Earth (July)
4. Fly Me to the Moon (August)
5. Bolt (November)

2009:
1. My Bloody Valentine 3-D
2. Coraline
3. Jonas Brothers' "Burning Up" 3D Concert Movie
4. Monsters vs. Aliens (
5. Battle For Terra
6. Up
7. Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs (
8. Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince
10. The Final Destination
11. Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs
12. Toy Story 1 & 2 Double Feature
14. Disney's A Christmas Carol
15. Avatar

Planned for 2010:

2010:
1. Alice in Wonderland (March 5th, 2010) (Tim Burton / Disney) (Writer, Linda Woolverton) (Producers, Richard Zanuck, Joe Roth, Jennifer Todd and Suzanne Todd) Disney Digital 3D: Performance Capture AND Live Action.
2. How To Train Your Dragon (March 26th, 2010) (Dreamworks Animation) Set in the world of Vikings and dragons, it centers on an awkward teen who befriends an injured dragon.
3. Clash Of The Titans (April 2, 2010) (Warner) Re-imagining of the original.
4. Kenny Chesney: Summer In 3-D (April 2010) (Sony Hot Ticket) Concert movie from his 2009 summer tour. 750 3D screen distribution.
5. Alpha And Omega (April 16th, 2010) (Lionsgate) CG Animation. The movie is about a couple of young wolves and their adventures. Hayden Panettiere, Christina Ricci, Danny Glover, Justin Long, Larry Miller and Dennis Hopper lend their voices to the project.
6. Shrek Forever After (May 21, 2010) (DWA)
7. Toy Story 3 (June 18th, 2010) (Disney) 3D Digital Animation
28. Evil Dead: The Musical (2010?) (Bruce Campbell) Recreation of the movie with music in 3D. Based on the stage musical. Shooting begins spring 2009.
29. The Hole (2010) (Bold Films) (Joe Dante, Director) (Michael L. Smith, Writer) (Starring Haley Bennett) A pair of brothers stumble upon a mysterious hole in their basement that leads to the darkest corridors of their fears and nightmares. Shooting starts in November 2008 in Vancouver, BC.

2011:
1. Priest (January 14, 2011) (Sony Screen Gems) (Paul Bettany, Karl Urban) A warrior priest disobeys Church law by teaming with a young sheriff and a beautiful priestess to track down a band of renegade vampires.
2. Cabin In The Woods (January 14, 2011) (MGM) A group of college kids spend a weekend at a mysterious cabin in the woods that white-collar co-workers have a mysterious connection.
3. Resident Evil: Afterlife (January 14, 2011) (Screen Gems) (Paul WS Anderson, Writer, Director) A reboot of the zombie movie trilogy.
4. Drive Angry (February 11, 2011) (NuImage / Millenium Films) Nicholas Cage starrer. A man exacts revenge on the murderer of his daughter and her baby.
5. Sucker Punch (March 25, 2011) (Warner Bros.) (Zack Snyder, Director) Action-Comedy
6. Rio (April 8, 2011) (Fox) (Blue Sky Studios) (Carlos Saldanha, Director) "centers on a nerdy macaw who leaves the comforts of his cage in small-town Minnesota and heads to Rio de Janeiro."
7. Kung Fu Panda: The Kaboom Of Doom (DWA) (June 3, 2011) (Jennifer Yu Helson, Director) Jack Black, Angelina Jolie again lend their voices.
8. Green Lantern (Warner Bros.) (Martin Campbell, Director)
9. Harry Potter And The Deathly Hallows: Part 2 (July 15, 2011) The final book split into two movies.
10. Smurfs 3D (July 29, 2011) (Columbia) (Colin Brady, Director) 3D animation based on the classic children's characters.
11. Newt (Summer 2011) (Disney-Pixar) (Director, Gary Rydstrom) What happens when the last remaining male and female blue-footed newts on the planet are forced together by science to save the species, and they can't stand each other?
12. Underworld 4 (September 23, 2011) (Sony Screen Gems) Fourth movie in the vampire vs. lycan franchise.
13. The Guardians (November 4, 2011) (William Joyce, Author) (Jeff Lynch, Director) The story brings together MAJOR children's heros as Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy, Jack Frost and the Sandman — to defend the world from a Bogeyman-like villain.
14. The Bear and the Bow (Christmas 2011) (Disney-Pixar) (Director, Brenda Chapman) A rugged and mythic Scotland is the setting for Pixar's action-adventure "The Bear and the Bow."
15. Cars 2 (Summer 2011) (Disney-Pixar) (Director, Brad Lewis) Mater and McQueen will need their passports as they find themselves in a new world of intrigue, thrills and fast-paced comedic
escapades around the globe. Now scheduled for the summer of 2011!
16. Happy Feet 2 (November 18, 2011) (Warner Bros) Sequel to the first massive musical animation hit.
17. Tintin (December 23, 2011) (Peter Jackson, Steven Spielberg) (Paramount / Sony) Motion Capture. Jamie Bell stars as the globetrotting young reporter Tintin, who faces off against the nefarious Red Rackham, played by Daniel Craig. Andy Serkis, Simon Pegg, Nick Frost, Gad Elmaleh, Toby Jones and Mackenzie Crook co-star.
18. The Devil's Commandos (Raw) (Director, Thomas Jane) A WWII commando unit sent on a rescue mission. Pretty straight forward. Except for the part where hell opens up and they have to fight Satan's army.
19. The Birds (Mandalay Pictures) (Universal) George Clooney and Naomi Watts attached in this remake of the Hitchcock classic where birds exert their will over a small town.
20. The Three Musketeers (Constantin Films) (Producer, Paul W.S. Anderson) Contemporary re-imagining of the classic Dumas tale.
21. Frankenweenie (2011) (Tim Burton / Disney) Digital 3D: Stop Motion Animation. A young boy brings his dog back from the dead.
22. Paradise Lost (2011) (Warner Brothers) (Legendary Pictures) (Scott Derrickson, Director) Based on the Milton poem. Lucifer's failed rebellion in heaven brings about Adam and Eve's fall from grace.
23. Halloween 3D (2011) (Weinsteins) (Dimension Films) (Writers: Todd Farmer, Lussier) (Director: Patrick Lussier) Third iteration of the re-energized horror franchise.
24. Beauty And The Beast (2011) (Disney) The original converted to 3D.

I would agree its not going to "die out" as previous 3D era's did

but I am not convinced, purely from an enthusiast POV !


for the film studios and distributors it makes real sense - they get a better ticket price from the consumer compared to a 2D presentation, and its definitely a great tool to fight download piracy

kinda hard to DL the latest 3D film, when your computer or TV does not display 3D and you don't have 3D glasses....


but as an avid film consumer, it does nothing but spoil my viewing experience, for the reasons mentioned in my previous post

I've read about the *upgrades* that cinemas had to make, to screen 3D presentations

a key part of these upgrades, was a silver coated screen, to boost the image brightness, as this is reduced during a 3D projection, compared to a regular 2D projection


probably the most telling re-watch I've undertaken of 3D vs. 2D, was Avatar - a film designed to be shot and actually shot in 3D - compared to a film like "Clash of the Titans" which was actually converted to 3D during post production

as Avatar in 3D had a poorer PQ in the cinema theatre, than when I watched it later in 2D in the cinema theatre, then nothing will convince me to keep wasting my hard earned money on 3D presentations in the cinema theatre!

something that really suits my feelings on this matter, is that cinemas here in London, England, tend to show the 2D films earlier in the day which suits my lifestyle, and then show the more expensive 3D films in the evening to capture the evening film audiences...