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post #1 of 29
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My initial exposure to filmmaker Terrence Malick's Days of Heaven was in the fall of 1978.  As I watched this extraordinary work for the first time in a 70mm 6-track magnetic print on a huge screen, I was in awe, enthralled by the images, the sounds, the textures of the work. To this day, it reverberates as one of my greatest moviegoing experiences.

Over the years I've seen it change, occasionally losing its way in less than stellar transfers.  A few years ago Paramount removed the original negative from the safety of its vaults and after getting the color timing in place, struck a new protection interpositive. During timing at least one print was struck from the original negative, which went to The Academy Archive.  I was fortunate enough to attend a screening of this print, along with my son (as a first time viewer), and the impact was as great as it was thirty years earlier.

In the fall of 2007, with the blessing of Paramount, Criterion released Days of Heaven on DVD.  Transferred from the new interpositive, the transfer was approved by Terrence Malick, camera operator John Bailey ( cinematographer in his own right), sitting in for the great Nestor Almendros, who passed away in 1992, and for good measure, editor Billy Weber.

Finally, watching the new Criterion Blu-ray release on a large screen, is as close as one can come to seeing the film on a crisp, newly minted 35mm print.

Much has been written about the film during the past three decades.  I find myself returning time and again to the words by Roger Ebert for his Great Films series, in which he explains why and how the film works, as seen through the eyes of a young teenage girl, played by Linda Manz.  

Mr. Ebert writes, "What is the point of ``Days of Heaven''--the payoff, the message? This is a movie made by a man who knew how something felt, and found a way to evoke it in us. That feeling is how a child feels when it lives precariously, and then is delivered into security and joy, and then has it all taken away again--and blinks away the tears and says it doesn't hurt."

Mr. Ebert's work may be found here: http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19971207/REVIEWS08/401010327/1023

Days of Heaven is a quintessential Malick tone poem, created via cinema.  It is about as perfect a piece of pure cinema as one is apt to find, and is supported and rendered to perfection by Criterion's new Blu-ray release.

A perfect film, magically transported to Blu-ray as a perfect disc by a group of technicians who love and respect film.

If one only purchases five Blu-ray discs in 2010, this should be one of them.  It belongs in every serious library.

Extremely Highly Recommended.

RAH

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post #2 of 29
Come March 23rd, make no mistake about it... this title will definitely be in my collection, Robert.

CC
post #3 of 29
 Color me ecstatic.
post #4 of 29
I have lauded and championed this film since first seeing it in a small in dependent cinema in 1979, and was aghast at the way it was first brought to video (the muddy, smeary, awful-looking VHS, and the pan and scan laser disc). The remastered laser was widescreen and an inprovement almost by default, but I yearned for something that might even slightly resemble my cinema experience with this awesome movie. The original Paramount DVD was okay, and I brought that copy for signing to the Waterville (Maine) Opera House reception the year that Mr. Malick was given his "Midlife Achievement Award" here after he introduced us to a nice 35mm print of DAYS OF HEAVEN. (Incidentally, this festival, which runs for ten days every summer, is worth your attention if you can travel to it. Durting its annual run about sixty independent and foreign films are screened, and one major luminary from the pool of indie directors and cast members is invited to join in. Sissy Spacek, Ed Harris and, last summer, Arthur Penn were honored).

I guess what I'm trying to relate is that DOH is and will always be in my personal top ten of favorite films, and the one which I consider to be about the most beautifully-photographed 95 minutes I've seen (and I've seen BARRY LYNDON and THE DUELLISTS and all the rest). I am biting myself waiting for this Blu-ray. Thanks for your input, Mr. Harris. I hate wishing my life away to reach a date I look forward to, but these are going to be three long weeks.
post #5 of 29
I can't wait for this.  Now all we need are quality Blu-rays of BADLANDS and THE THIN RED LINE.

Vincent
post #6 of 29
I'm gonna have to have this one.
post #7 of 29
I'll be looking for this at my local Blu-ray outlet in 3+ weeks!!!
post #8 of 29
Yup, this will be 50% of Malick's work in Blu Ray.  Hopefully, The Tree of Life will shake Badlands and The Thin Red Line loose.  What a film, what a filmmaker.
post #9 of 29
Thread Starter 
Thin Red Line may be next.


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Yup, this will be 50% of Malick's work in Blu Ray.  Hopefully, The Tree of Life will shake Badlands and The Thin Red Line loose.  What a film, what a filmmaker.
post #10 of 29
Robert,
Would The Thin Red Line be a Criterion release?  It wasn't before.  I'd prefer all of his films to get the CC treatment, but I'm not expecting it.

Still, great news.  John Toll was the cinematographer for The Thin Red Line, and that movie is stunningly beautiful to look at.
post #11 of 29
Robert,

  I also saw this film upon it's release in a 70mm presentation with the Dolby sound, and it left an impression that I can't overstate.  I seem to remember the sound aspects as clearly as the images for some reason.   I was a bit disappointed in the Criterion DVD, so my hopes are high for the blu.

 -- On a side note, as a young film student I made a trip to Austin (where I now live) for a special effects seminar in the mid-seventies and a local film maker asked our group to attend a preview screening of his new movie to get our opinions.  It was Badlands, and Terrence Malick watched it with us.  That experience, needless to say, also made an impression.

Timothy
post #12 of 29
Thread Starter 
I'm unable to think of a single piece of film that ever ran through Mr. Toll's camera that wasn't "stunningly beautiful" in one way or another.

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Robert,

Still, great news.  John Toll was the cinematographer for The Thin Red Line, and that movie is stunningly beautiful to look at.
post #13 of 29
I remember being on vacation in San Francisco and Days of Heaven was playing in 70mm 6-track stereo surround at one of their wonderful old theatres. I don't remember the name of the theatre but, you had to take a escalator to get to the theatre. It was a memorable experience.
post #14 of 29
while I can't wait for this BR,I wish it wasn't just a BR upgrade of the wonderful Crit DVD,Yes it was wonderful,but I wish
they could scap up some more extras,the stars are still around and a real documentry would be great,even if Matlick
wasn't included,
The transfer is super,But having seen this film many many times in the theatres(Back when you could) I think
some scenes are faded,and a couple of these faded scenes can be seen in the Old laser disc,while overall no
match for new transfers it did have some nice things here and there,mostly to do with color

The HD Badlands looks fantastic and I wish they would release it on BR
post #15 of 29
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Thin Red Line may be next.

 


 

God I hope you're right. One of my favorites.
post #16 of 29
I too saw DAYS OF HEAVEN in 70mm 6 track stereophonic sound during its original run in NYC.  In fact I was so impressed by what I saw and heard went to see it a second time.  Unfortunately neither the Paramount nor Criterion DVD versions were satisfactory especially in the sound.  I'm hoping that the Blu Ray corrects this ....
Edited by Paul Rossen - 3/7/10 at 3:54pm
post #17 of 29
Now if they can't only do the only other film thats on that level when it
comes to visual talent    "The Spider's Stratagem "
post #18 of 29
I dunno if it's my system, but this Blu-ray-  while it certainly doesn't look bad-  left me a little disappointed.  And no, I'm not talking about "3-D pop" or any of that crap, but to my eyes there was too much edge-enhancement-  especially in wide shots-  and the image overall looked to suffer from a bit too much digital filtering and manipulation.  It just lacked that completely analog and truly detailed "film look" that the best Blu-rays in my collection reproduce so well.

Vincent
post #19 of 29
 I just watched my Blu-ray of Days of Heaven last night and have to agree. I was expecting something eye-poppingly wonderful and for me it just didn't deliver. Could it be because I still have memories of being spellbound by a 70mm presentation on a huge screen during the film's first run? 

Maybe I'm simply expecting too much from Blu-ray. On the other hand, my Blu-ray of The African Queen looked better than it ever did in a theatre. And that includes both dye transfer and and Eastmancolor prints. 
post #20 of 29
Maybe you just saw what I saw and did not fully realize what bothered you. The transfer could have been superior, if they only had kept their fingers away from the sharpness knob. They didn't, and the result is often a hard image with nasty artifacts around high contrast edges. I'm sure it's delicious on smaller monitors. Projected 3.5m wide it's a frustrating experience. You can see what easily could have been but is not. And for no good reason at all. Pity.
post #21 of 29
had the same experience. projected 110". turned it off after 30 minutes. so many forcefields, eyes hurting.

had the cinematography not been so full of optimal edge enhancement moments, it might have fared better. 

To whoever was responsible for this transfer - rubbish work. cheers ! 

on the plus side, can you even begin to imagine the disaster this could have been if universal released this. they may have even surpassed their sistine chapel of transfers, "Out of Africa". i don't even like to think about that. 
post #22 of 29
Thread Starter 
I'll revisit this when I have a moment.
post #23 of 29
Don't expect anything BAD. We are talking the finer points of what separates reference from (very) good.
post #24 of 29
I mentioned the EE when this came out and was told by some here that is wasn't EE at all, but an effect of shooting at "magic hour". Sure looked like EE to me, but what do I know? It wasn't there a lot, just a few scenes, and the rest of the film looks great. I would love to know if it is in fact EE or something else.
post #25 of 29
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Don't expect anything BAD. We are talking the finer points of what separates reference from (very) good.

Agree with Michel.  We're not talking the original Blu-ray of GoNY here, just something that is frustratingly less-than-perfect as it could have been, and for no good reason that I can discern.

Vincent
post #26 of 29
 The fine people at Criterion seem to be reasonably accessible via email. One of you should pointedly ask why it was allowed. They should know that people who do care, are watching and noticing.
post #27 of 29
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I mentioned the EE when this came out and was told by some here that is wasn't EE at all, but an effect of shooting at "magic hour".

I'm 100% confident it's in the actual photography.
post #28 of 29
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I'm 100% confident it's in the actual photography.

Yup, go take a look at Lawrence of Arabia in 70mm, you'll see the same kind of "ringing" halo around Lawrence whenever there's a shot looking up at him against the sky, usually when the light source was behind him (though not in frame).  
post #29 of 29
Looking at the screen-shots here- http://www.hundland.org/hd/d/d.htm#daysofheaven- I'm now inclined to agree with you and Brandon and retract my initial impression that what I was seeing was electronic EE.  The "halos" do not look electronic at all in these shots, it definitely has the appearance of a lens/light issue on the original film in high-contrast areas caused by the use of backlighting.  I'm guessing that some display chains exaggerate the halos and make them look like electronic EE when in fact they are not that at all.

Vincent

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Yup, go take a look at Lawrence of Arabia in 70mm, you'll see the same kind of "ringing" halo around Lawrence whenever there's a shot looking up at him against the sky, usually when the light source was behind him (though not in frame).  
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