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WB/Shout....what's next?

post #1 of 75
2/27/10 at 11:04am
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I'm really hoping that we see more WB shows licensed to Shout.
Just a few I'll have my fingers crossed for:
-LOGAN'S RUN TV SERIES

-SHAZAM

-THUNDARR THE BARBARIAN COMPLETE SERIES

Continuations for:

-GROWNG PAINS

-CHIPS

 

If even one of these shows is released on dvd, I'll be more than happy.
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post #2 of 75
2/27/10 at 11:18am
I believe they implied in one of the WB chats that Logan's Run would be a possibility if that remake of the movie ever gets going. (I actually wouldn't mind seeing someone else's vision of L'S R, because the old movie wasn't very close to the book. It should be more of a youthful, cyberpunk thing).

Here's some more WB orphans. These only got one release from the frog:

the Drew Carey Show
the George Lopez Show
the Jamie Foxx Show
Life Goes On
Living Single
MADtv
Murphy Brown
Perfect Strangers
Wayans Bros
Welcome Back Kotter
Who's the Boss?

...and there's plenty more shows that got more than just one release, but never did see completion on dvd. I doubt very much that Shout can handle all these shows, but if everything works out just right...
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post #3 of 75
2/27/10 at 12:21pm

*If* we are seeing full-blow licensing to Shout and other labels, then my preference ranking for titles would be "The FBI" followed by "Maverick" and "Chico And The Man".
 

For interrupted Warner titles, "Welcome Back Kotter" would rate #1 with me.


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post #4 of 75
2/27/10 at 12:40pm
WHO'S THE BOSS? is a Sony property, not Warner. :)

Glad to see Warner giving licensing their shows a shot. I hope they find it satisfying enough to take a chance on releasing more titles that way. I would pick up more releases of LIFE GOES ON and KNOTS LANDING in a heartbeat.



Edited by whisperintherain - 2/27/10 at 1:15pm
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post #5 of 75
2/27/10 at 12:47pm
If WB is willing to license animated stuff to Shout! as well, Huckleberry Hound is another WB orphan, Popeye is also technically an orphan (it was stalled just before the series went to color) and Quick Draw McGraw and MGM Tex Avery don't seem to be in the cards. Shout! could do right by all four.
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post #6 of 75
2/27/10 at 12:59pm
"There are no animated titles within the Warner Bros. deal.  To be honest, this is a HUGE breakthrough, so we were thrilled to finally be able to partner up with WB on the titles announced.  But no animated series." - Brian Ward of Shout! Factory
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post #7 of 75
2/27/10 at 3:47pm
That's for the immediate deal that got Shout! Max Headroom and Norm. I KNEW about Brian's quote when I wrote that. What I was REFERRING to is if the initial titles do well, hopefully WB will be more receptive to licensing out more of their library to Shout!, INCLUDING animated titles. That's why I wrote "If WB is willing to license animated stuff to Shout! as well"
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post #8 of 75
2/27/10 at 8:53pm
One show that I think is pretty popular that Warner never even touched is Eight is Enough. I would love to see that one get a release as it came just slightly before the taping era.
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post #9 of 75
2/28/10 at 3:22am


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Originally Posted by Neil Brock View Post

One show that I think is pretty popular that Warner never even touched is Eight is Enough. I would love to see that one get a release as it came just slightly before the taping era.

Same here.  Last I remember is that Dave (TSoD) mentioned something about a problem with clearance/rights for this one.  Didn't sound good that we'd see this on DVD.
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post #10 of 75
2/28/10 at 3:54am
I think we should try and be as realistic as we can with our wish lists. Shows that are embroiled in rights issues are unfortunately very unlikely to ever be released, let alone licensed to another company.

This is why I didn't mention CHINA BEACH in my previous post on this thread. It is currently ranked as one of the top 10 most-wanted unreleased shows over at TVShowsOnDVD, but it's no mystery why the show is still unreleased despite boasting a strong cast that prominently features two actresses who currently star on two of the most popular shows worldwide (Dana Delany is on DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES and Marg Helgenberger is on C.S.I.: CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION): music rights clearance. Popular songs from the era depicted in the show are heard all over the episodes and replacing them would be mere blasphemy as they add so much to the mood. Until this issue can be dealt with satisfyingly, this is one show we're not getting on DVD, and that is unlikely to get licensed as well.

Of course, I'm just using this one as an example, but countless others certainly remain off the release schedules for similar reasons and should not be considered as contenders for licensing just yet, IMHO.


Edited by whisperintherain - 2/28/10 at 2:10pm
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post #11 of 75
2/28/10 at 5:17am


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Originally Posted by whisperintherain View Post

 It is currently ranked as one of the top 10 most-wanted unreleased shows over at TVShowsOnDVD, this issue can be dealt with satisfyingly, this is one show we're not getting on DVD, .

 
Where is their "Most Wanted' List? I've looked all over for it and cannot find it!

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post #12 of 75
2/28/10 at 6:15am
It's on the statistics page that you get when you log in. You have to be a registered user there, of course. If you scroll down the page, you'll see the "Most Requested Unreleased Shows" list, which consists of the ten shows with no existing release of any form with the most votes. THE WONDER YEARS is the #1 title at the moment, CHINA BEACH comes in at #9.
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post #13 of 75
2/28/10 at 6:18am
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Where is their "Most Wanted' List? I've looked all over for it and cannot find it!

If you log in to the site it brings you directly to the page.
Here are the most wanted tv shows on dvd(Series year/number of votes):

Wonder Years, The 1988  6570
Batman 1966  5445
Salute Your Shorts 1991  4615
Six Million Dollar Man, The 1974  4061
Ed 2000  3841
Bionic Woman, The 1976  3831
Hey Dude 1989  3285
Two Guys, a Girl, and a Pizza Place 1998  3191
China Beach 1988  2860
Homefront

Oh man, The Wonder Years and Batman.  I wish.

EDIT: Whoops looks like someone already answered your question.

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post #14 of 75
2/28/10 at 7:22am
I hope eventually they get the rights and release complete series sets of The Pirates of Dark Water, Thundarr, Pac-Man, and Dragon's Lair to name a few.
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post #15 of 75
2/28/10 at 11:12am
Unless Warner have some release plans of their own with these, I'd love to see Shout! get Harry O (1973-76), The Yellow Rose (1983-84), The Mississippi (1983-84/might now be CBS?), and The F.B.I. Especially the David Janssen '70s crime cult classic is about high time!
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post #16 of 75
2/28/10 at 11:47am
Oh nice, I had not seen this news.   May I suggest  from the WB library for Shout!

Eight is Enough & Spenser: for Hire  & maybe continue to release CHiPs
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post #17 of 75
2/28/10 at 1:24pm

SHOUT! Having content deals with several of the studios, they have way to much to pick from.

We might end up with a situation where stuff DOESN'T come out becuase there is not only so much to pick from,but if a release doesn't reach a sales point, it could keep SHOUT! from releasing additional volumes.

Now,I wonder where the next Peyton Place is You'd think whe'd here some by now, retail or SHOUT! Store exculusive.
 

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post #18 of 75
2/28/10 at 2:08pm
Okay, so am I to understand that that "Most Wanted" list is somehow scientifically accurate or reflective of the actual wishes of the dvd-buying market? Because I can't believe, in my wildest of imaginings, that "Salute Your Shorts" is the 3rd most-wanted series. I have a feeling that 99% of you never heard of it. It's just a routine and silly sitcom that aired on Nickelodeon about 20 years ago.  Now, "Batman" and "Wonder Years" I can understand. I've also seen dozens of threads asking for the Bionic duo; but "Salute Your Shorts?" C'mon, guys--not ah! I think somebody's been stuffing the ballot box.
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post #19 of 75
2/28/10 at 3:29pm
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...but "Salute Your Shorts?" C'mon, guys--not ah! I think somebody's been stuffing the ballot box.


I think it's a matter of people that voted being the right age (like myself) to have fond memories of that show. Personally, I'll stick with my fond memories because I imagine that the show is terrible.
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post #20 of 75
2/28/10 at 7:22pm
re: "I think somebody's been stuffing the ballot box."

I'm not saying that it's "impossible" for this to happen, but Gord has several things in place designed to prevent this from happening.  In the past there have been several occasions where Gord has suspended voting on a show, found and deactivated accounts (and the votes that go with them) because he caught them creating extra accounts to "stuff the box".  Just FYI.
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post #21 of 75
3/1/10 at 8:43am


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Originally Posted by Bryan^H View Post




If you log in to the site it brings you directly to the page.
Here are the most wanted tv shows on dvd(Series year/number of votes):

Wonder Years, The 1988  6570
Batman 1966  5445
Salute Your Shorts 1991  4615
Six Million Dollar Man, The 1974  4061
Ed 2000  3841
Bionic Woman, The 1976  3831
Hey Dude 1989  3285
Two Guys, a Girl, and a Pizza Place 1998  3191
China Beach 1988  2860
Homefront

Oh man, The Wonder Years and Batman.  I wish.

EDIT: Whoops looks like someone already answered your question.

 

      
     Lets see, out of the top 10, I have the complete Bionic Woman and 3 seasons of Six Million Dollar Man from overseas releases. Wonder Years and Ed I recorded myself off-air and don't need. Batman I have from nice quality 16mm prints that I bought 20 years ago. The last 3 never interested me. And I have no idea what Salute Your Shorts or Hey Dude are. Kids shows I imagine?
     
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post #22 of 75
3/1/10 at 8:45am


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Same here.  Last I remember is that Dave (TSoD) mentioned something about a problem with clearance/rights for this one.  Didn't sound good that we'd see this on DVD.
 

      Dave, is this accurate? Only thing I could imagine is because it was based on a book, there could be issues, the same as with the Max Shulman estate which is keeping Dobie Gillis from coming out.
     

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post #23 of 75
3/1/10 at 9:11am
Thanks for the info guys, I never registered on their Board before today.
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post #24 of 75
3/1/10 at 11:15am
Same here.
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post #25 of 75
3/1/10 at 11:42am
I'd love to see the classic WB detective shows from circa 1957-64 (77 Sunset Strip, Surfside 6, Hawaiian Eye, Bourbon Street Beat) finally released on DVD, along with The FBI, whose absence from the DVD shelves is a mystery in that it was filmed in color from the beginning. 

Some other possible candidates for a Shout! factory release from the Warner vaults:

One-season wonders like-

Then Came Bronson
The Girl From U.N.C.L.E
Hank (the Dick Kallman sitcom from '65, not the recent Kelsey Grammer disaster)
Just the Ten of Us (actually lasted 2 1/2 seasons)


By the way, I recently found out that Warner Bros. has the rights to the notorious 1970s Canadian sitcom The Trouble with Tracy- it should be interesting to see how people in the US respond to a show that was reviled in its native country......
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post #26 of 75
3/1/10 at 2:46pm


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Originally Posted by Charles Ellis View Post

I'd love to see the classic WB detective shows from circa 1957-64 (77 Sunset Strip, Surfside 6, Hawaiian Eye, Bourbon Street Beat) finally released on DVD, along with The FBI, whose absence from the DVD shelves is a mystery in that it was filmed in color from the beginning...

I think there is one factor in the delay of The FBI.  Remember, you have two entities involved in this one, QM Productions and WBTV.  The Martin estate has some claim to this, but you also have to remember that CBS bought a majority of the QM library, so obviously issues would have to be cleared with CBS before we do see any home video release of FBI.  We do know, however, WB still holds TV and internet rights, so go figure, guys...

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post #27 of 75
3/1/10 at 3:01pm
CBS wouldn't have to clear anything on "The FBI" anymore than they'd have to clear things for "Twelve O'Clock High" which is owned by Fox, even though Martin produced it.       Martin in effect did "The FBI" in an arrangement where it was a Warners produced show rather than "in association with Warner Brothers" like "Streets Of San Francisco" (or like "Fugitive" was done "in association with UA").    When it comes to DVD releases, Warners has the final call on it whether to do it or license it..   
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post #28 of 75
3/1/10 at 4:12pm
As I suggested before, we don't know what Warners is offering to Shout! to licence. You'd think WB would hold back titles for their own release or the archive.
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post #29 of 75
3/1/10 at 6:26pm
I think I'd really only be interested in WB's MAVERICK, THE F.B.I. and HARRY O from Shout. Maybe 77 SUNSET STRIP, too.

Most of the classic-era TV series I still want on DVD seem to reside with Universal, CBS, MGM, Fox and some independent entities.
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post #30 of 75
3/2/10 at 7:34am
Plus don't forget that Warner also controls the pre-1985 MGM library. Some pretty good shows in there: Dr. Kildare, Mr. Novak, The Thin Man, Cain's Hundred, The Lieutenant, Many Happy Returns, Sam Benedict, The Eleventh Hour, The Islanders, Asphalt Jungle, Daktari. In addition, Warner also owns the Lorimar catalogue as well. But we don't know what's being offered. It could be that Shout only had all of the new (post-1980) crap to choose from and didn't get offered any of the good shows that we want.
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