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WWII in HD
 
Studio: History Channel
Year: 2009
US Rating: NR
Film Length: 7hrs, 35 Mins
Video: 1080i High Definition 16X9 - 1.78:1
Audio: English 5.1 DTS Master Audio and 2.0
Subtitles:
 
“We are all of us children of earth—grant us that simple knowledge. If our brothers are oppressed, then we are oppressed. If they hunger, we hunger. If their freedom is taken away, our freedom is not secure. Grant us a common faith that man shall know bread and peace-that he shall know justice and righteousness, freedom and security, an equal opportunity and an equal chance to do his best, not only in our own lands, but throughout the world. And in that faith let us march, toward the clean world our hands can make. Amen."
 
The Film: 4.5 out of 5
 
The greatest generation. The last great war. World War II; arguably the most sprawling, devastating, and globally affecting conflict in the history of humankind, has yielded some of the most incredible stories of heroism and bravery that the world has ever known; though anyone you speak to from that terrible war would brush off notions of heroism with a quip about “just doing what needed to be done”. While the war was raging, Hollywood was telling stories of the fight – and for decades after Germany and Japan had surrendered, tales of battles lost and won would be explored, and the bold, brave, battered and bruised effort of the allied forces would have their stories told.
 
World War II raged across Europe and North Africa for years before Japan awakened the sleeping giant of the United States in 1942 with their sneak attack on Pearl Harbor. That devastating act formalized America’s involvement in the conflict, and opened up an incredible front in the Pacific theater. In short, WWII was one of the most remarkable periods in human history.
 
For two years, researchers scoured the globe in search of footage from the war. WWII is perhaps one of the most documented periods in history, but this effort to find footage was different. The footage being sought was little or never before seen color footage. After the two year global effort, researches had compiled a staggering amount of footage, captured by dedicated members of the armed services, embedded journalists, and others. The footage was assembled around the lives of 12 individuals in to a narrative, documenting many bloody and brutal battles from France, to Italy, to North Africa, and from Guadalcanal, to the Solomon Islands, and the Philippines. The footage is nothing short of incredible; a fascinating front-lines view, in color, of the gruesome and terrifying power of warfare.
 
The 12 lives followed by the documentary range from a field army nurse to an embedded TIME/LIFE journalist, naval officers, a Tuskegee Airman, and marines. Each life is explored through their words documented in diaries, war journals, books published, and recent interviews. The power and intimacy of battle – and the sheer magnitude of the conflict, come searingly into focus in an unparalleled way. There is heart and heroism drenched in the words which addle between hopeful and hopeless. Some of the 12 are alive today; some died in the conflict, but each are unique and their stories revealing of their fears. The 12 lives we follow, and the actors who bring their words to life, are: Jack Werner (Justin Bartha), Rockie Blunt(Rob Corddry), Richard Tregaskis (Tim DeKay), Archie Sweeney (Mark Hefti), Jimmie Kanaya (James Kyson Lee), Charles Scheffel (Ron Livingston), Shelby F. Westbrook (LL Cool J), Robert Sherrod (Rob Lowe), Bert Stiles (Josh Lucas), Jack Yusen (Jason Ritter), June Wandrey (Amy Smart), and Nolen Marbrey (Steve Zahn). Rob Lowe’s reading of TIME/LIFE war correspondent Robert Sherrod in particular is sobering – perhaps because of his journalistic eloquence, or the gruesome battles he witness, but Lowe delivers his words with the a somber and serious solemnity.
 
The overarching story of the war is narrated by Gary Sinise. Sinise provides a straightforward, emotionally neutral cadence and tone; a simple gravity which provides hints of the despair and desperation felt at points in the conflict, balanced with the trial and triumph of victory. His narration is perfect as we follow the mostly linear path from Pearl Harbor, to Japan’s reluctant surrender several days after the second atomic bomb destroyed Nagasaki.
 
WWII in HD documentation of war as seen and told through the lives of just 12 provides an dramatic power among the vastness of the fight. European allied forces gave countless lives, and their contributions, though not specifically documented here, are weaved in to the stories and battles covered. But this series is designed specifically to tell an American perspective, and with that understanding, this series is nothing short of extraordinary. This documentary is a marvel of editing, narrative construction, and thoughtful, emotional, storytelling. Assembling what must have been a vast, disparate array of footage culled from across the globe, in to a compelling, engaging, and at times tense experience, is a fine accomplishment, and riveting from the first shot, to the closing moments.
 
Images of the contorted dead; fields of fallen soldiers and civilians killed in the throes of battle, or caught in the ferocity of crossfire, strike a solemn tone frequently throughout the more than seven hours running time. These images are horrific and devastating; vicious reminders of wars’ brutal toll. The inexplicable mass suicides on the Island of Saipan; the emaciated, frail skin and bone survivors of Hitler’s holocaust of the Jews mark perhaps the most distressing images.
 
In the end, the guttural and awful reality of war is mixed expertly with the sweeping, swelling surge of victory. The balance of these sides is incredibly well maintained, and should be applauded.
 
Episode 1: Darkness Falls
Episode 2: Hard Way Back
Episode 3: Bloody Reserve
Episode 4: Battle Stations
Episode 5: Day of Days
Episode 6: Point of No Return
Episode 7: Striking Distance
Episode 8: Glory and Guts
Episode 9: Edge of the Abyss
Episode 10: End Game
 
 
The Video: 4 out of 5
 
As you might expect, the quality of the footage varies, but regardless of the extent of damage, wear, tear, and fading, the meticulous effort to restore and transfer to High Definition can be appreciated. Shown here over two discs in 1.78:1 and enhanced for widescreen televisions, the footage has been cropped to fit the widescreen frame, but so vivid are some of the images; so clear – that it is surprising how old they are. Much of the footage is marked with scratches and other damage, but the clarity found throughout may very well surprise you due to the faithful act of finding, restoring, and preserving the footage. The footage was screened and shot with Red camera to digitally store the image., and was shot at a higher resolution to preserve the quality since quite a bit of what is visible in the original frame is cropped for this presentation. What is shown is remarkable, and the stories so vivid and engaging that the footage that has suffered the most over time does not at all detract from the power of the experience.  
 
 
 
The Sound: 4.5 out of 5
 
The DTS-HD 5.1 audio track available is immersive, full-field, and the most powerful audio track I have ever heard for a television show. The zipping sounds of bullets from rifles and machine guns rage from front speakers to surrounds – the explosive boom of mortar fire, grenades, and the massive shells fired from the awesome American naval fleet, frequently punctuate and pound. The roaring engines of American fighter planes, and the heavier, slower, bombers, growls and prowls, and Gary Sinise’s narration is always clear in the center channel, as are the voices of the guest actors providing dramatic audio of the 12 lives, and the heroic dramatic score, led by strings, sweep throughout the channels. An exemplary audio.
 
 
The Extras: 2.5 out of 5
 
Character Profiles (14:55): Profiles of those followed through the series are examined – including additional footage not shown during the series of the conversations with them.
 
Finding the Footage (2:28): A brief look at the effort to research and find original color footage shot during WWII.  
 
Preserving the Footage (1:55): A very brief look at the effort of transferring the footage to a digital medium.
 
 
 
Final Thoughts
 
Both the enormity and intimacy of World War II is shared through the remarkable assemblage of rare color footage. Most footage from this war seen through the years has been black and white –somehow separating us from that now long-past era. This color footage reminds us just how close in history we really are to that global battle for freedom. Like the footage commonly seen of the Vietnam war, the fierce fighting in the Pacific theater, and the deadly charge to reclaim Europe from the grip of Hitler, is seen here upon the weary, brave, smiling or sullen faces of marines, soldiers, and sailors, captured by journalists and correspondents following behind and among the hunkered charges of these men, and in the trenches, foxholes, and webs of jungle, where the many battles unfolded. WWII in HD is a fascinating experience, and in many ways, should be required viewing. Not just for the significance of what has been crafted here by the documentary, but for the constant reminder I feel we should all have of the magnificent sacrifice of the millions who fought, lived and died.
 
Highly Recommended!
 
 
Overall 4.5 out of 5
 
Neil Middlemiss
Kernersville, NC


Edited by Neil Middlemiss - 1/26/10 at 7:36am

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I ordered this yesterday as I couldn't pass it up for $19.99 at Amazon.  Your review just further validates my purchase!
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 Neil,

Count me in as another that was taken in by your review 
and Amazon's amazing price.  

Ever since watching Band of Brothers and Ken Burns 
The War I have become very interested in WWII.  This
documentary seems as if it will be equally as interesting.

Ordered.
post #4 of 28
Excellent Review Neil.

It has convinced me to pick up a copy today.

Looking forward to the viewing.
post #5 of 28
 I'm in as well. Just ordered from Amazon. Thanks for the review.
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I'll echo Neil's comments about the tech specs.  The video is stunning in its clarity, considering how/when it was shot and the audio rivals any big budget movie I've thrown into the player.  It may even be better than Star Trek, my current favorite window rattler. 
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Is most of the audio that's being discussed here original to the footage...or would you suspect it has been "enhanced" in post-production? 

Just curious.  It doesn't matter to me either way but I just wouldn't expect the audio fidelity of the original material to match the visual quality you all are raving about.

I will be in for this...that's for absolutely sure. 
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the audio rivals any big budget movie I've thrown into the player

Thats pretty amazing for a TV show.
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Mike - most certainly enhanced post-production. Really it is a sound FX track provided to enhance the experience, but so well produced (timed) that one could easily be fooled in to believing it is native.

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Is most of the audio that's being discussed here original to the footage...or would you suspect it has been "enhanced" in post-production? 
 
post #10 of 28
Great review, Neil!  I cannot wait for my disc to arrive from Amazon.
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 Mike, it is my understanding, and i could be wrong, but most battle footage from WWII was silent. The sound effects were always added later. Even back in the day it was not the real sound effects being used. If i recall, most of the footage was 8 and 16mm. Which would make sense, since a bigger camera would be to heavy to move around during a battle.

Of course i am no expert on WWII, just a buff of that time in history. So, i could be wrong.
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I think you're correct, Ricker.

In the making of documentary on the World at War DVDs, that show's producer Jeremy Isaacs talks at length about the topics of adding sound effects to mostly silent wartime footage, using footage in incorrect locations/times and using footage believed to be re-staging of events for showreels. I think his assessment was that their mission was to tell the story of the war in visuals and audio, so taking license was warranted if they didn't have the correct footage available and it helped to guide the audience through an episode. At least they didn't make the choice lightly. I'd assume the same is the case here. 

Definitely going to buy this, I think I caught one episode on cable, but for 20 bucks I'll pick up the rest blind. 

brad
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"War is stupid. Crazy. We've got to have love on our planet."

- Charles Scheffel

"The people who create those situations
are never the ones who are out there fighting
"

- Shelby Westbrook 

Words spoken by the Veterans of war whose
personal stories are told in this riveting documentary
of World War II.  

Having spent these two days watching this 
7-hour introspective, I am left with only glimpses
of haunting imagery that have forever been burned
into the souls of the men and women who fought 
in World War II.

This is a brilliantly pieced together documentary
that belongs at the top of the list for anyone who
is curious about the accounts of WWII.  

Certainly, the biggest flaw of this documentary is
the fact that the producer has scraped together footage
that is not accurate to the event being portrayed.  Stock
footage from one battle is attached to another.  Certainly,
with the limited amount of color footage that was taken
during the war, it is impossible to accurately document
any one event in its entirety.

I do give a huge amount of credit, however, to the
illusion that has been made.  It's not very difficult to
embrace the footage that has been presented and
wrap yourself into the story -- for that is the most
important aspect of this presentation. 

The color footage is amazing.  I was surprised that
there was enough of it found to make up nearly 7
hours of storytelling.  After watching countless hours
of B&W documentary footage of WWII over the years,
the color adds a very stark reality that I had never
experienced prior -- some of which is very graphic in
nature.

A huge amount of credit must also be given to 
the foley work that has been done with this footage.
The sound that accompanies these clips captures
the smallest of nuances right down to bodies sliding
off a stretcher.  You can complain about the fact that
the footage may not be accurate, but with all the 
enhancements that have been done in converting
them to High Definition and adding compelling sound
effects, this has got to be one of the most realistic
documentaries ever made on WWII.

I would highly, highly recommend its purchase
as well as Ken Burns The War on DVD which
is equally as impressive in its storytelling.
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I bought this on Blu-ray too, and i am still in the middle of watching it.
Very impressed with the Blu-ray production. I understand the DVD version is not even anamorphic wide screen!

Anyway, it looks to me that a small portion of this footage is colorized, or at the very least 2 strip Technicolor. Anyone know?

The footage doesn't even need to be all color. Its still a good series.
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There are small segments that are in black and white which History didn't colorize.  My guess is none of the color footage was messed with after the fact.  There wouldn't be much sense in colorizing some and leaving some b/w.

But then, the DVD not being in 16:9 doesn't make much sense either, now does it?
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This was a bargain at $20.  Finished disc one.
 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Hard to watch at times, especially scene of Nazi's hanging 36 random businessmen and then shooting other civilians against a wall.  The savagery of war comes through loud and clear.  The bunkbeds in the subway in London was also something I hadn't seen before.
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It is now even more of a bargain as Amazon has dropped this to $16.49 for anyone (like me) who didn't yet pull the trigger. 

 

Happy Father's Day to me! 

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It's $15.99 @ Deepdiscount during the 25% off sale or $14.99 @ Best Buy.

post #19 of 28

Damn, already got it. And i thought i was getting a deal at $20. It was cheaper than the DVD version.

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It's $15.99 @ Deepdiscount during the 25% off sale or $14.99 @ Best Buy.


Wow, Scott!  My Father's Day just got even better!  Thanks! 

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For the record, amazon has now matched that $14.99 price. 

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Sorry to rain on everyone's parade, but I got this disc, and then got rid of it. Yes, it's good storytelling, and good sound, and interesting footage. But the basic work to make it a true HD presentation simply wasn't done, thus, it's NOT, repeat, NOT World War II in HD. The bottom line is simple: When you screen old 16mm footage through a 16mm projector, even if you film it at 4K with a Red camera, it still won't be HD, as the resolution will be limited by the lens through which it is being projected. The only way to get those films into true HD is to scan the film, frame by frame, then run it through something like PixelFarm's suite of programs to clean it up. So they spent all this effort to find these marvellous archival reels, and then – basically – wasted that effort by failing to properly process and archive what they'd found. As an example, PBS created a documentary several years ago called Victory in the Pacific. That program includes the harrowing film of Japanese civilians, women and children, committing suicide by throwing themselves off cliffs, because of all the propaganda lies their government had fed them about what the American soldiers would do to them should they surrender. World War II in HD includes the same scenes, but they are all garishly purple and the contrast is completely blown out. Why? Because they simply filmed their copy of the footage with their Red camera, and did nothing to it afterwards. The PBS program by comparison has restored colour, reduced flicker, and much better contrast values. It also shows the footage silently, as it was filmed. So I got rid of my copy, and I will wait until somebody chooses to do the job properly. My advice? Get the blu-ray of The World at War. A different type of documentary, but equally worthy, and properly restored.

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You certainly haven't rained on my parade. This series was absolutely terrific, and the emotional wallop of the material, and quality of the image, is simply terrific. I can appreciate where you are coming from, but simply don't agree.

 

From History.com, they describe the process of finding and cleaning up the footage:

 

WWII in HD is the first-ever World War II documentary presented in full, immersive HD color. Culled from thousands of hours of lost and rare color archival footage gathered from a worldwide search through basements and archives, WWII in HD will change the way the world sees this defining conflict. Using footage never before seen by most Americans--converted to HD for unprecedented clarity—viewers will experience the war as if they were actually there, surrounded by the real sights and sounds of the battlefields. Along the way they'll meet a diverse group of soldiers whose wartime diaries and journals show in visceral detail what the war was really like.

 

 

American film footage of the Second World War was captured primarily by motion picture cameramen assigned to Army, Navy, Marine Corps and Coast Guard signal photographic units. While this footage was captured mainly in black and white, some combat cameramen shot large quantities of color footage.

Some people may be surprised to learn that 16mm color film of the 1940s offers resolution that rivals the quality of today's high definition. Yet locating this footage for use in WWII in HD was often a challenge.

 

Many of these materials have changed hands over the years. They were in private collections or were donated to military museums—stored and forgotten.

Ultimately, the two-year, worldwide search paid off. Hundreds of hours were obtained of rarely- and never-seen footage, documenting activity in every theater of conflict for the war. Now they can be seen for the first time in decades, and in many cases, for the first time ever.

 

The material used for WWII in HD now represents one of the largest military film collections in the world. Footage in poor condition was painstakingly cleaned, digitally transferred, detail-logged and stored in preservation canisters. Even film in near-pristine condition could be improved (scratches removed, color corrected, detail enhanced) using modern technology.

The result is a treasure trove of unforgettable imagery, from pulse-pounding aerial combat sequences over Europe to heartwarming shots of a GI sharing water from his canteen with a frightened Japanese child to the truly chilling sight of Hitler playing with children and tousling their hair. It's all there onscreen: history reassembled, history preserved.

With WWII in HD, HISTORY has created a vividly presented canvas that paints the definitive portrait of World War II.


 

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Sorry to rain on everyone's parade, but I got this disc, and then got rid of it. Yes, it's good storytelling, and good sound, and interesting footage. But the basic work to make it a true HD presentation simply wasn't done, thus, it's NOT, repeat, NOT World War II in HD.  

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My advice? Get the blu-ray of The World at War. A different type of documentary, but equally worthy, and properly restored.



Jon Paul:

 

Are you aware that the "properly restored" blu-ray of World at War is cropped from it's 4:3 original aspect ratio to a 16:9 AR?

 

Hope that doesn't rain on your parade...   smiley_wink.gif

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Yep, I was aware that they had "zoomed in" on the older 4:3 footage. But those older cameras had viewfinders that were not TTL; so camera-persons typically left a lot of space around their subjects to make sure that they had got it, thus, in many cases – not all – zooming in on 4:3 documentary footage often does little damage to the framing of the image; you lose sky and dirt while the subject remains. Plus, if you really want it in 4:3, I believe the earlier incarnation is still for sale, used, on Amazon. 

 

As to World War II in HD, I guess some of us will have to agree to disagree. Yes, some of the footage looks pretty good. But I believe that's down to the projectors they happened to use for individual rolls of film. For the most part, it didn't look to me as if it were really high def; and I note that none of the material quoted by Neil (thanks, btw!) deals with the sort-of telecine process they actually used. I regard the series as interesting, and definitely emotionally engaging, but in terms of a true HD transfer, decidedly a missed opportunity.

 

cheers 

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But those older cameras had viewfinders that were not TTL; so camera-persons typically left a lot of space around their subjects to make sure that they had got it, thus, in many cases – not all – zooming in on 4:3 documentary footage often does little damage to the framing of the image; you lose sky and dirt while the subject remains.


Unless you are telling me that you were shooting film back then and that this was your style of shooting, I think that's a mighty presumptuous claim.  This very topic was vetted in the thread on World at War in HD.

 

And, there is no earlier incarnation of World at War in high definition.

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Yep, I was aware that they had "zoomed in" on the older 4:3 footage. But those older cameras had viewfinders that were not TTL; so camera-persons typically left a lot of space around their subjects to make sure that they had got it, thus, in many cases – not all – zooming in on 4:3 documentary footage often does little damage to the framing of the image; you lose sky and dirt while the subject remains. Plus, if you really want it in 4:3, I believe the earlier incarnation is still for sale, used, on Amazon. 

 

As to World War II in HD, I guess some of us will have to agree to disagree. Yes, some of the footage looks pretty good. But I believe that's down to the projectors they happened to use for individual rolls of film. For the most part, it didn't look to me as if it were really high def; and I note that none of the material quoted by Neil (thanks, btw!) deals with the sort-of telecine process they actually used. I regard the series as interesting, and definitely emotionally engaging, but in terms of a true HD transfer, decidedly a missed opportunity.

 

cheers 

I'm going to both agree and disagree with these points.  And I'm not trying to rain on any parades either.

 

First, as to 4:3 footage.  This is documentary, grab your shot and not get shot footage.  It is neither lit nor set up.  What is in the frame is there in many cases simply by chance.  Some can be field enlarged to 1.78, some cannot (or should not).

 

As to the means of capturing the images, I'm in agreement.  There are ways to do this properly, and with all due respect to those who created the production, exposing a projected image with a Red is not it.  I love the Red, and this means to an end post-production decision is neither the best way to capture an image from these elements, nor to preserve them.  I've been in a quandary regarding the process since I first read about it on Cinematography.com.

 

Is the final result HD?  Yes, but the concept of what is, and is not HD, goes hand in hand with what is Blu-ray.  Both are simply buckets to hold data at a certain maximum resolution.  What is thrown into those buckets is quite another matter.

 

RAH

 

post #28 of 28

A couple small points of clarification. Nope, not old enough to have shot footage on Iwo Jima, so yes, I admit to a certain amount of presumptuousness.

 

I did possess a couple of older (1960s double-run style) 8mm movie cameras. Once you get used to it, framing isn't all that difficult, but it can still throw you off. You get the roll back, and what you thought you shot is missing or askew. I even used my second camera, with brothers and pals, to make my own action movie when I was a teen. All silent, of course. And limited to 72 edits as that was the number of slices in the packet.

 

As well, I have used some 1920s and 30s still cameras (620 and 616 format – the latter has a gorgeous cinemascope ratio) and have handled other vintage cameras, including a 1948 Konica rangefinder, and several DLR cameras. I admit, this ain't definitive, far from it, but my understanding of the viewfinders on many older cameras is, as Mr Harris says, of the "get the shot and don't get shot" variety. 

 

 

On the HD issue, I stand by what I said; a missed opportunity. I will be saving my pennies until I can afford a BR copy of World at War.  

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