Survivor - Heroes vs. Villians (season 20) official discussion thread - Page 5

The vote for Randy was like the vote for Sugar a completely uncontroversial choice.  Early in the game you may not want to play your hand too soon and reveal your alliances.  Voting for Randy eliminated a universally disliked player who was weak in challenges.  It offends no one, and it tells no one any details about your real allies or enemies on the tribe.  The problem with that strategy is that Randy is not a leader likely to build opposition to you, he is no real threat to anyone.  By giving threats like Cerie and Parvati a pass early, you give them time to build alliances and defend themselves.  What's interesting about this game is it seems that with past seasons of experience, some alliances (Tom & Steph, Cerie, James, Amanda, maybe Parvati) came into the game already formed.  Makes the strategy much more interesting.
Edited by Stephen_L - 2/26/10 at 1:29pm

One thing is for certain, he's become an egomaniacal prick. I liked him on the other installments of Survivor, but I absolutely loathe him this time around. I hope his ass gets blindsided SOON.

I seriously didn't think JT had the balls to go through with it.  Bravo, Heroes, Bravo.  I still want a villain to win...

Holy shit!  Are you guys dead inside?  No one discussing the most T&A filled challenge EVER?  Oiled down babes in bikinis shot at all angles?  For a minute I thought I was watching Howard Stern.

I could have perhaps done without seeing Courtney like that.  She looked like Jack Skellington.  James looked like he was made of metal.

And there must have been some heavy editing since we never got to see Pavarti take a turn.  There were 8 players but they only played best out of seven?  I assume they really played best out of 9 or 11 then edited it to look like it came down to the wire.  Which implies that the Villains probably ran away with this one.
Edited by Hanson - 3/4/10 at 8:15pm

Our household was thrilled at the way tonight's vote went.  I refused to believe it was possible that JT would really bolt the alliance...until I saw the name on the ballot. 

As any longtime HTF Survivor fan knows, Cirie has always been one of my least favorite players. 

And what was up with the music/voice mix during the closing credits?!?  I could hardly hear anything she said in her final confessional. 

At least she wasn't cut off like everyone else so far.  Seriously, you need to shave the 2 seconds it takes to finish the sentence? 

Yup. Jeff said, "First tribe to four...wins this challenge."  And they were wide for the first half of that sentence and went back to close-up of Jeff for the second half.

But Pavarti sat out the challenge.  The Villains were up one tribe member at that point.  What we never saw was Rob & JT square off.    Why have eight pairs of contestants when "first to four" wins the contest?!?

Yeah, I forgot Pavarti sat out.  I wasn't really keeping track of the guys.

I joked that when Danielle went, she would dive to the ground and then bounce right back up. 

Because her boobs are fake.

 
I know, I thought the same thing, he reminded me of a black T-1000 from Terminator 2 or The Silver Surfer.

Amanda looked damned yummy all oiled up like that and she was also insanely hot in her private testimonials

Russell's game has been flawed but tonight he really revealed the kink in his armor by blatantly disregarding what was discussed and immediately went looking for the idol, I was really hoping the villains would go to council to see what they would do, now Russell has time to repair things and probably stay.
Edited by Inspector Hammer! - 3/5/10 at 12:59am

I told my wife & daughter that James looked like he was CGI. 

I mentioned the same thing to my daughter.  James looked like Colossus in XMen 3.  Fantastic TC and vote.  I like Cirie and she is dangerous.  Loved how she took the vote in stride.  I think she has class as a player.

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Looks like another physical challenge with the EMTs coming in to do triage next week.  I wish they'd stick to endurance, strategy or skill on challenges and not have things that get people hurt.  It's just not fun to watch and puts the players at risk.  Look at Rupert, he's been playing with a broken toe.

Finally, we both laughed out loud when Rob called Russell a Hobbit on crack.  Rob has some of the funniest lines on the show.

Here's an unaltered pic of James:

How about Tyson telling a weeping Coach to:  Lose the feather at tribal, stop telling your stories - no one believes them, and finally, stop doing your Tai Chi on the beach - go off into the jungle.  My god that was some funny shit.  Also - Boston Rob telling Coach to "be a man" that was some classic Survivor moments right there....


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What an outstanding episode!  It's so refreshing to see Survivor filled with smart, savvy players.  Though I'm a big Cerie fan, I loved seeing the blindside take her out.  JT knew that as a strong challenge performer he would fall under Cerie's sights sooner or later.  He also correctly assumed that he's far more likely to get a straight answer from Colby or Tom than Cerie.  Just a few random thoughts about the players.

Cerie:  you were tactically clever as usual but your tribe mates know your game.  You couldn't float under the radar here.  Your game was always designed to benefit only one person, yourself.  Going after Colby and Tom, when your tribe is losing and you are worthless in challenges was too obvious a move.  You shoulda been a villain.  I would have loved to see you work your magic with Boston Rob and Russell.  Goodbye, but you will be missed.

Boston Rob:  now the undisputed most dangerous man in the game.  Smart, savvy, great in challenges, the whole Villains tribe marches to your orders.  I would love to see you make the finals.  Your only flaw is that you're too high profile.

Tom & Colby:  both solid challenge competitors and have made the integrity card work.  If you can use that to build an alliance that won't flop on you, you may go deep.  That will be hard to do after the merge.  People fear you, and that puts a target on your back.

Russell:  gone from puppet master to pathetic.  Despite his grandiose opinion of himself, he is running nothing.  Made an enemy of Boston Rob and your tribe by your idol search.  Took the focus off Parvati.   You are now the next target.

James:  I've done a 180 on James.  Loved him in China and Fans vs. Faves.  Now he's all bluster and a tool to boot.  Wants a strong tribe but votes out Stephanie and Tom/Colby while taking orders from Cerie?  You've lost any integrity.  You're strong enough that the heroes will keep you for a while.  But if you survive the merge, the heroes won't trust you and the villains will play you. 

JT:  the second most dangerous man in the game.  Terrific at challenges, well liked, and most importantly always seems to be underestimated.  No one seems to fear him like they fear Tom and Colby.

Rupert:  totally weak.  You say you want the tribe to be unified and strong but you hang with Cerie who was trying to burn down the tribe one strong player at a time.  No integrity, no challenge skills, no strategic sense I can see.

Parvati:  her stock is rising.  Clever in the relationship game.  Manipulates men well.  Thanks to Russell the spotlight is off her for now.

Right now if I could have my way, I'd love to see J.T. and Boston Rob last to the jury. 

Didja notice how effortlessly James separated the ball hanging from the string?  You wouldn't break a sweat either... if you were a T1000:

Yeah where are those screen caps?

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There's a guy at Survivor Sucks who caps the T&A portions of the show in high resolution jpgs.  Here are his caps of Amanda from last night:

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The entire thread is located here: http://survivorsucks.com/topic/65085

 Pic 3 for the cameltoe win.

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Coach doesn't have "medical emergencies", those are for mere men, Coach has "a warriors tragic and premature fall from the field of battle".

Boston Rob calling Russell a hobbit on crack was the line of the night.

Amanda looked insanely hot in this episode. I don't know how it's possible for someone to look that good while being stuck out in the jungle.

When Danielle jumped on the mat I was scared she might burst her implants. That would've been a Survivor first.

I'm convinced James was built in a lab. That guy is so ripped it's scary....as mentioned before, he almost looked CGI in that challenge.

GREAT EPISODE!!!

 

Late to the game here with a few thoughts.

What is with all this crying?!  Guys like Boston Rob and 
Coach crying?!

I mean, holy shit!  

Yeah, I mean I cry once in a while.  Last time I cried
is when they took Golden Girls off the air.  I mean, that's
justified under those circumstances.

Glad to see Ciri was blindsided.  Did not like her at
all.  Too dangerous.  

I am also very worried about Russell.  He got too greedy
looking for the hidden idol and as a result now he's a marked
man.  I was really hoping that Russell would win this so he
could appoint himself "Best Survivor Player....Ever!" but I
have a feeling that he may be the next voted out from the 
villains tribe.

 I suppose it is unwise to post without going back to the start of this thread, but I have to ask impatiently: where is Richard Hatch? He was shown in the preview episode bantering with Russell. Is he being held in reserve for some sort of surprise? But how is that a surprise when the casual viewer (me) expects to see him? 

Richard was approached to be on the show but could not leave the U.S. due to his on-going legal problems stemming from his conviction on tax evasion charges caused when he failed to pay taxes on his winnings from season one.

I finally have something to cheer about to get me back on this thread.......Cirie's finally been taken out!!!   That makes me so damn happy as I can't stand her!  The only thing she's good at is staying under the radar and picking off the stronger players.  As that last "slip-and-slide" challenge showed......she is absolutely useless in that respect. Glad she's gone.....I never want her to taint another season of Survivor...ever!

Now....as for Russell, he seems to be slipping up this season.  I can't believe he didn't figure that the piece of paper in the knife sheath was a clue to the HII.....the Russell of last season would have been already looking for the damn thing and probably had it by now without putting a target so blatantly on his back.  I hope that he can survive this as I really want to see a true battle of wills  between him and Boston Rob LATER down the line when they are more evenly matched.....right now, Rob has the control.  It's the wrong time to butt heads with this guy.

If I were the villains, I would seriously get rid of Sandra.....never liked her either.....a complete grump of a woman.....also, get rid of the stick figure girl.....I swear....looking at Courtney in that challenge, she looked like she had the physique of one of the aliens in Close Encounters....eat something, for crying out loud!!!

There.....I've had my say.

One more thing.....the Dragonslayer needs to man up.  I would never have expected a guy so full of himself to get "cry-babyitis".
Edited by Joseph J.D - 3/7/10 at 7:45pm