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INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS
2 DISC SPECIAL EDITION
 
Studio: Universal
Film Year: 2009
Film Length: 2 hours 33 mins
Genre: World War II Tarantino Thriller Comedy
 
Aspect Ratio: 2.40:1
 
BD Resolution: 1080p
BD Video Codec: AVC (@ an average 25 mbps)
Color/B&W: Color
 
Audio:
English DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 (@ an average 3.5 mbps, going up over 5 mbps in the shootouts)
French DTS 5.1
Spanish DTS 5.1
 
 
 
 
Subtitles: English SDH, French, Spanish
 
Film Rating: R (Strong Graphic Violence, Language, Brief Sexuality, Quentin Tarantino)
 
Release Date: December 15, 2009
 
Starring: Brad Pitt, Christoph Waltz, Michael Fassbender, Eli Roth, Diane Kruger, Daniel Bruhl, Til Schweiger and Melanie Laurent, and Guest Starring (?) August Diehl, Julie Dreyfus, Sylvester Groth, Jacky Ido, Denis Menochet, Mike Meyers, Rod Taylor and Martin Wutke
 
Written and Directed by: Quentin Tarantino
 
 
Film Rating:    4/5  
 
There is a moment in Quentin Tarantino’s Pulp Fiction that will inform my review here, so please bear with me for a minute. Early in Pulp Fiction, our hero enforcers Jules and Vincent confront a hapless (and soon to be deceased) group of small-timers.   Jules (played with obvious relish by Samuel L. Jackson) helps himself to his main target’s Big Kahuna Burger and then washes it down with the guy’s beverage. As he does so, the camera holds on Jules’ eyes – cold and menacing. And all the surface amusement and cute banter is shown to be a mask for some really nasty business that’s about to erupt.
 
That same level of menace is established within the opening minutes of Tarantino’s new film, Inglourious Basterds, as Christoph Waltz’s SS Colonel Landa casually interrogates a French dairy farmer about the Jewish fugitives he is hunting. Waltz’s Landa is congenial and pleasant, even generous with smiling compliments to the farmer about his daughters and the milk the farmer provides. (And I should note that this conversation, like much of the film, takes place in multiple languages.) But underneath the pleasantries is a layer of savage menace that percolates throughout the scene, until the tension is almost unbearable. And then the real nasty stuff starts to happen.   When the gunfire finally erupts, it’s almost a relief, given the level of tension Tarantino has ratcheted into the scene. The movie then unfolds a dual narrative, both trails of which end up at the same destination. One track has to do with a French survivor of Nazi atrocities (and particularly those of Colonel Landa) planning an elaborate revenge. The other track follows the exploits of an American squad of Jewish soldiers wrecking havoc and mayhem against the Nazis in occupied France.  Both tracks are followed with equal amounts of good humor and intensity. Several scenes are in and of themselves complete mini-features of their own – especially a basement bar social outing that quickly becomes something very different. With this film, Quentin Tarantino returns to the confident mastery of both absurd comedy and intense drama that he previously showed in the second half of his Kill Bill duplex.   And, appropriately enough for a film buff like Tarantino, the big climax of the film takes place in a movie palace. Of course, Tarantino can’t resist being Tarantino – at any moment when anyone might think that the film is going to take itself completely seriously, he throws a moment of over-the-top violence and blood so outrageous that it practically winks at the viewer.
 
Inglourious Basterds is being released this week both on standard DVD and Blu-ray. The Blu-ray release is a 2-disc affair, with the first disc containing a high definition transfer of the film with some special features, and the second disc containing a digital copy.
 
 
VIDEO QUALITY   4/5
Inglourious Basterds is presented in a 1080p AVC 2.40:1 transfer that shows off a satisfying level of detail and some deep reds along the way. The décor of Melanie Laurent’s movie theater, as well as the fabric and dye of her red dress, are marvelous to see in high definition. At the same time, the transfer shows off an accurate variety of flesh tones and does well with both daytime and nighttime situations.   I should note that I am watching the film on a 40” Sony XBR2 HDTV. If anyone is watching the film on a larger monitor and is having issues, please post them on this thread.
 
 
AUDIO QUALITY   4 ½/5
Inglourious Basterds is presented in an English DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 mix in English, along with standard DTS 5.1 mixes in French and Spanish.   This mix is one of the most active and immersive ones I have heard to date, particularly in the various shootouts. The basement situation in particular had bullets whizzing around my surround channels and the various hits popping up everywhere. The dialogue is also clear, even in the quietest moments of the film. I actually didn’t have any issue here of needing to turn up the volume for dialogue and then turn it down for the big climaxes. In this soundtrack, there are certainly louder sequences, but the variance isn’t a big issue.  All that said, I still wouldn’t recommend watching the movie at a high volume level after midnight in a quiet neighborhood…
 
SPECIAL FEATURES      3/5
The Blu-Ray presentation of Inglourious Basterds comes with a fair amount of special features, although not the usual commentary or PIP functionality that many viewers have come to expect from HD releases. The specials here include about 17 minutes of extended material, a mock documentary, about an hour of featurettes, a few trailers, a gallery, and a movie trivia game, as well as the usual BD-Live connectivity. The disc also comes with D-Box and My Scenes functionality, as well as a new pocket Blu function that connects to an iPhone or iPod Touch. And there’s the second disc with the digital copy. 
 
Extended & Alternate Scenes (1080p, 11:26) – Three scenes are presented here in high definition, including an extension of the lunchtime discussion between the characters of Goebbels, Zoller and Shoshanna (Melanie Laurent), and an extension of the basement bar character card game.
 
Nation’s Pride (480p, Non-Anamorphic, 6:10) – The inset Nazi propaganda film featuring “war hero” sniper Zoller is shown here in its entirety, albeit in non-anamorphic standard definition. The piece is so far over the top in its adoration of the sniper’s accuracy that it quickly becomes pretty funny. Bo Svenson, star of the original Inglorious Bastards, turns up in a cameo here. (He’s aged quite a bit since the most interesting performance of his in my memory – as evil “Ivan” from the Magnum P.I. episode “Did You See The Sunrise?”)
 
Roundtable Discussion with Quentin Tarantino, Brad Pitt and Elvis Mitchell (1080i, 30:45) – Film critic Elvis Mitchell spends a half hour with Tarantino and Pitt discussing various aspects of the movie and its production. It’s a pretty self-congratulatory affair, but some interesting things get discussed, particularly when Pitt pushes Tarantino to get into the kinds of stuff you don’t normally discuss in these pieces. Both Pitt and Tarantino discuss the deliberately limited scope of the project, which forced Tarantino to cut his own script and make compromises in order to keep the movie from inflating into a much longer schedule. (As the film came out at 2 ½ hours, this was probably a very wise choice.) I should note that they don’t disclose where Pitt’s “Aldo Raine” got his prominent scar, other than to say it’s part of the character’s history.
 
The Making of Nation’s Pride (1080i, 4:00) – This mock featurette shows that Tarantino and his guys have definitely watched enough DVD featurettes to quickly sum up the problem with many of them: too many mutual compliments and clips and too little real information. This piece includes interviews with “Goebbels”, his mistress and Eli Roth as the propaganda piece’s director. (I should note that Roth actually directed the propaganda piece himself for Tarantino…) For some reason, the sight of the director happily recounting his enjoyment at working with a “tough producer like Joseph” had me laughing out loud.
 
The Original Inglorious Bastards (480p, Anamorphic, 7:39) – This standard definition featurette focuses on Enzo Castellari and his World War II epic from the 1970s. Castellari of course makes a cameo appearance in Tarantino’s film, which is also covered here. At the end of the piece, the viewer is shown a trailer for Castellari’s film..
 
A Conversation with Rod Taylor (1080i, 6:43) – Veteran actor Rod Taylor gives a brief interview here, intercut with video footage from the set. He’s clearly a fan of Tarantino’s films and his workstyle, which usually finds Tarantino sitting by the camera rather than at a video village monitor in the next room. Taylor is happy to recall (and the video corroborates this) that Tarantino will usually ask for an additional take and in discussing a reason, shout along with the cast and crew, “Why? Because WE LOVE MAKING MOVIES!!!!”
 
Rod Taylor on Victoria Bitter (1080i, 3:19) – This is an additional few minutes with Rod Taylor, wherein he discusses how Tarantino brought a bucket of this Australian beer to Taylor so they could spend an evening discussing their movies together. (The beer is exclusive to Australia according to Taylor, but I understand it to be available in San Francisco at one location, if anyone is interested…) Taylor also discusses his enjoyment of Tarantino having shown the crew several of his movies so that he would be recognized by everyone when working on the set.
 
Quentin Tarantino’s Camera Angel (480p, Anamorphic, 2:42) – This is a fun little montage of the various nicknames given to the letters assigned to various shots used in the movie.   For the lay person, every shot in a movie is identified by the scene number it is in, and after a master shot has been printed, by a letter starting with the letter A and moving higher in the alphabet as more camera positions are used for the same scene. In the usual situation, you’ll hear “Apple” for “A”, “Baker” for “B”, etc. Not so with the camera assistant featured here. For a shot labeled with “FC”, you get “Francis Ford Coppola”. For “DA”, you get “Dario Argento. And so on. There are some really good ones in here, spoken by the camera assistant while clapping the “sticks” together for picture/sound sync. In several cases, the actors can be seen giggling behind the clapper and then trying to regain their composure to play the scene at hand.
 
Hi Sallys (480p, Anamorphic, 2:09) – This montage shows several of the greetings thrown into various shots from Tarantino to his editor, Sally Menke. In some cases, Tarantino pops up into the shot to say hello to her. In other shots, he has the actors greet her. In one case, a corpse comes to life to say hello to the editor. In two other cases, Mike Meyers throws in a pair of greetings in the midst of his spiel as “Ed French”.
 
Film Poster Gallery Tour (480p, Anamorphic, 11:00) – Elvis Mitchell narrates this collection of clips from the film, and stills of movie posters seen in the film. Mitchell’s knowledge of film history is shown here, as he discusses both the real movies discussed or displayed within Tarantino’s film, and the mock posters and Nation’s Pride. There’s a fair amount of material here, even at the short length, and it’s enough to send the viewer looking for some of the real movies, or at least for some more materials about the people that made them.
 
Trailers (1080p, 1:45, 2:23, 2:08, 1:17) – Four trailers for this movie are included here in 1080p high definition. The first is the teaser trailer that has also graced many Universal DVDs over the last few months. The second one is a longer domestic trailer. The third is an international trailer. The final one is a Japanese trailer with Japanese subtitles and narration.
 
Inglourious Basterds Poster Gallery – This is an image gallery of the posters made for this film for advertising in the United States and in various other countries around the world.
 
Killin’ Nazis Trivia Challenge – This is an onscreen multiple-choice quiz about trivia from this film that ranges from simple questions to more arcane ones about the goings-on. I qualified as a “Basterd” but missed a couple of questions in the final round and wound up finishing at a lower rank…
 
BD-Live - The more general BD-Live screen is accessible via the menu, which makes various online materials available, including tickers, trailers and special events.
 
D-Box – This Blu-ray is enabled with D-Box Motion for viewers who have this capability in their home theater.
 
My Scenes - The usual bookmarking feature is included here.
 
pocket BLU – This feature is designed to provide bonus material for use with an iPhone or iPod Touch. As I have neither of these items, I will not be able to test this for myself. If any viewers have been trying out this function, please post within this thread.
 
On Disc 2:
 
Digital Copy - A digital copy of the extended version of the film can be loaded on to your computer or portable device.
 
IN THE END...
Inglourious Basterds is a solid film by Quentin Tarantino that mixes humor with sometimes unbearable intensity. And usually this is within the same scene. The Blu-ray release of this film is a worthy purchase for fans of Tarantino. I have a feeling they don’t need my recommendation. I am therefore giving it anyway.
 
Kevin Koster
December 16, 2009.

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Excellent review as always Kevin, thanks for the great write up.  Mine should be here today, I cheaped out and took free shipping.
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Great review, Kevin!  I love how Tarantino used the 1970s style Universal logo at the beginning of the film.
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Nice review.  There was some discussion at another forum about the special features of the U.K. disc (supposedly the same as the U.S. version) not working on the Panny BD-30, but I can tell you I spun up some of the special features with no prob on my player (I think I have the latest firmware on my Panny BD-30 - 2.9, I believe).  Will delve deeper and watch the film this weekend, but all looked good.
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Timothy, you're absolutely right!

I forgot to mention the use of the older logo - just like Sam Raimi did with Drag Me To Hell.  Although Tarantino didn't continue the motif with the Tour logo at the end...
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Nice review.  There was some discussion at another forum about the special features of the U.K. disc (supposedly the same as the U.S. version) not working on the Panny BD-30, but I can tell you I spun up some of the special features with no prob on my player (I think I have the latest firmware on my Panny BD-30 - 2.9, I believe).  Will delve deeper and watch the film this weekend, but all looked good.

I have problems with IB freezing up after the FBI warning with the panny BD60, after repeated tries I was able to see the movie by going through the 'chapters' menu, I've seen half the special features without problems, a new exchanged disc has the same issues, so I figure the problem is the player or the latest software update I'm using..
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I'm really looking forward to watching this.  I hope I'm not going to have problems with my Panny BD-10.
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I don't know about the compatibility issues.  I viewed the disc on a PS3 with the current firmware updates and had no issues.

I also have a Panasonic BD unit that I can try it on, if people are interested.  But I know for sure that the PS3 had no conflicts.
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Mine worked on the Panasonic BD-80, latest firmware.

- Steve
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I have problems with IB freezing up after the FBI warning with the panny BD60, after repeated tries I was able to see the movie by going through the 'chapters' menu, I've seen half the special features without problems, a new exchanged disc has the same issues, so I figure the problem is the player or the latest software update I'm using..

Plays thru and past the FBI warning on my BD-30.
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The disc played without errors on our Sony BDP-S350 last night, although the disc took a long time to load because of all the Java crap. I really wish studios would forget about Java and just get us quickly to a simple menu. Who is buying BDs for fancy menus?

The film was typical Tarantino... which means it was terrific! This was my first time watching Inglorious Basterds, and Quentin didn't disappoint. Well-written story with tension-riddled scenes, interesting characters, snappy dialogue, great music, plus Tarantino humor in just the right mix. Brad Pitt was a perfect casting choice, as well.
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Man, people are still having problems with grtting discs to play at this point in the format's life? I must have extraordinary good luck since I have never had a problem playing a disc on my PS3. Of course, now that I posted that statement I'll probably end up eating those words. Fortunately, it won't be with Inglourious Basterds. IB has played without a hitch. Good flick.
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Man, people are still having problems with grtting discs to play at this point in the format's life?


I had the same problem that Alfonso was having but it was with a (relatively ancient) Samsung 1.0 profile player.
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I must have extraordinary good luck since I have never had a problem playing a disc on my PS3.

One of the very good reasons for that is apparently "everybody" tests BDs on the PS3 for playability. But not on most other players. It is also apparently considered a bit of a coup to get a studio to adopt your brand of player as a standard test platform.

The other alternative, of course, is for studios to stop doing weird stuff.

Just got my copy of IB yesterday, plan to watch this weekend, have really been looking forward to it. Usually I have a BD for weeks before I get around to watching it.
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One of the very good reasons for that is apparently "everybody" tests BDs on the PS3 for playability.
 

More importantly, Sony proactively keeps the firmware on the PS3 current and will even force a player update if necessary if the console is internet connected. A lot of hardware manufacturers don't stay ahead of the curve and a lot of consumers don't know the first thing about updating their players firmware, which isn't always an easy process.
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^ Sony proactively updates the PS3 firmware, if necessary, only because the BD was tested on their platform before release. So they know well before other manufacturers/models that don't have that luxury. It makes sense to test on the PS3 because that is by far the single most common BD-playing platform (if we pretend all the PS3 variants are "the same" as far as BD playing potential problem areas go).

Unfortunately though, some studios who test on the PS3 may not notice just how poor some of their choices were, especially when it comes to speed. Some Java stuff that seems "not bad" on the PS3 can be glacial on a typical player. Or not work properly at all. A variety of test platforms makes sense, don't want to annoy the fledgling BD customers. Whereas people who have been using BD for some time won't be so easily put off by a little issue, they've probably seen worse and will know what to do.
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More importantly, Sony proactively keeps the firmware on the PS3 current and will even force a player update if necessary if the console is internet connected.
 

This is news to me. I have never had a forced update done to my PS3. I actually skipped a couple of updates because people were complaining that the updates were killing their PS3s. There was even one update that, according to some complaints, caused the BD player in the PS3 to become an unrecognized piece of hardware. I skipped all of those updates until I was sure that the problems had been taken care of by Sony.
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^ Correct me if I'm wrong, but SONY is responsible for testing their hardware and issuing firmware updates as are the rest of the hardware manufacturers. It's a collaboration between the player manufacturer and the disc authoring industry.
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Sony requires some updates if you try to use certain web features with the PS3, otherwise you can't use them anymore. Not exactly "forced", but sort of...
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This is news to me. I have never had a forced update done to my PS3. I actually skipped a couple of updates because people were complaining that the updates were killing their PS3s. There was even one update that, according to some complaints, caused the BD player in the PS3 to become an unrecognized piece of hardware. I skipped all of those updates until I was sure that the problems had been taken care of by Sony.
 

I've been forced to update my PS3 firmware twice. I can't recall the exact revision numbers, but I was unable to access the Playstation Store at one point without doing the update. Perhaps "forced" was a bad choice of words. I was unable to utilize the complete functionality of my console without updating the firmware, and the console made me aware of the availability of the update.

I've applied every firmware release that Sony has issued for my PS3 and have never had any problems.
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^ Correct me if I'm wrong, but SONY is responsible for testing their hardware and issuing firmware updates as are the rest of the hardware manufacturers. It's a collaboration between the player manufacturer and the disc authoring industry.

They do put out regular updates, so I believe that would be the case. When you use the term "forced" I take it to mean automatically update without any active participation by the user. In that case, I have never had an automatic update done to the PS3 ala Microsoft Windows updates.


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Sony requires some updates if you try to use certain web features with the PS3, otherwise you can't use them anymore. Not exactly "forced", but sort of...
 

Ah! In these terms, then yes, an update could be considered "forced" if you want to access certain web-based features like "Home" or the Playstation store. I don't make use of those features very often so I can go long periods without updating. If I wanted to make frequent use of those features then I would be forced to make regular updates to the PS3.
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I've been forced to update my PS3 firmware twice. I can't recall the exact revision numbers, but I was unable to access the Playstation Store at one point without doing the update. Perhaps "forced" was a bad choice of words. I was unable to utilize the complete functionality of my console without updating the firmware, and the console made me aware of the availability of the update.

I've applied every firmware release that Sony has issued for my PS3 and have never had any problems.
 

Yes, that's true. In that case, one is "forced" to update to maintain their console's functionality for certain web-based features. I don't acess the Playstation store on a regular basis, so I can go longer periods without updating.

As far as updates go, one never knows how much of the problem reporting is XBOX fanboys posting disinformation. Console fanboys are so rabid they make the anti-SONY contingent look like choir boys. I just tend to be cautious with updates. I'm of the if-it-ain't-broke-don't-fix-it persuasion. The last update I made was only because I wanted to play UNCHARTED 2. An update was mandatory if you wanted to play the game. To tell the truth I wasn't to happy about it, but it went off without a hitch.  
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I now own both a (currently non-functional, 2-yo) PS3 and a (new) Panny BD60.  And yeah, I'm like Edwin and rarely updated my PS3 and have gone w/out any significant BD playback problems (until it recently decided to stop reading any optical discs probably due to the infamous dirty laser lens issue).

Since a lot of the problems (and extreme slowness) seem to be BD-Live related these days, I plan to just leave the Panny BD60 unconnected w/ BD-Live disabled -- in fact, Alonso's problem w/ IB above seems very much BD-Live related (as we concluded in another thread elsewhere).

Anyway, I plan to pick up IB on Monday w/ another try at an online order for in-store pickup at BB to get their exclusive version w/ the extra hour-long Tarantino interview -- I'm actually a little surprised nobody on HTF has posted w/ comments about that exclusive extra yet (other than mentioning it's a BB exclusive).

_Man_
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Anyway, I plan to pick up IB on Monday w/ another try at an online order for in-store pickup at BB to get their exclusive version w/ the extra hour-long Tarantino interview -- I'm actually a little surprised nobody on HTF has posted w/ comments about that exclusive extra yet (other than mentioning it's a BB exclusive).

 


It's a standard Q&A that was recorded just before Inglourious Basterds was released. There's some interesting stuff on there and he covers more than just IB. Plus, it runs nearly as long as all the supplements on the regular disc.
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It's a standard Q&A that was recorded just before Inglourious Basterds was released. There's some interesting stuff on there and he covers more than just IB. Plus, it runs nearly as long as all the supplements on the regular disc.

Thanks for the info, Travis.  Actually, now that you mention it, someone (maybe you?) probably did briefly describe what's expected on the disc to similar extent though I thought people would post more details than that by now, if the hour-long disc actually had all that much of interest.   Anyway, guess I'll find out for myself soon enough...

_Man_
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I honestly wasn't aware of Best Buy having another interview with Quentin Tarantino as a bonus. 

I just went through what was on the Blu-ray I received from Universal and went from there.

Thanks for adding the input of the other material.  Is it on the Blu-ray itself, or is it on an attached DVD?
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Is it on the Blu-ray itself, or is it on an attached DVD?


Yeah, it's on a separate DVD.
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I was forced to update to the latest firmware on the PS3. Without the update, newer discs like NORTH BY NORTHWEST, STAR TREK and WIZARD OF OZ wouldn't play. Luckily, I have a Sony BPD-S300 that played them(though it took forever for them to load, and STAR TREK froze a few times). I was lucky that a friend of mine showed me how to do the update, otherwise I would still have to watch new films on that old 1.0 player.

Keeping on topic , IB looks like a movie buffs delight, and I'm looking forward to seeing it.
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Larry, you are correct in more ways than you know.  If anything, keep your eyes open to the various movie posters on display for both bogus and real movies of the time.

And BTW I have kept my PS3 completely up to date at all times.  I figured this was the best way to have all the proper codecs for sound and BD-Live, etc.   I also really like the display feature that shows how much bitrate is going through the picture and sound processors.  Very helpful.
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   I also really like the display feature that shows how much bitrate is going through the picture and sound processors.  Very helpful.


Shhh! Don't say that; otherwise Sony will delete that feature in the next update.
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