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post #121 of 138
2/10/10 at 12:01pm
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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon View Post



Bill:

I'm trying to figure out if you're yanking my chain…or posting with a sense of irony. 

The issue at hand is that the quoted text is supposed to appear at the top of the reply with the comments of the person responding underneath.  A secondary issue is the number of extraneous blank lines which appear inside and above the quoted text.

One of the places where this is commonly evident is any thread featuring posts from Robert Harris.  Whenever RAH quotes someone and responds to it, inevitably his comments appear above the quoted text (kinda like your post #119 above). 

 


Whenever I quote someone I just scroll to the bottom and start my message.
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post #122 of 138
2/10/10 at 12:11pm
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Originally Posted by TonyD View Post

Whenever I quote someone I just scroll to the bottom and start my message.

Apparently, Tony, not everyone is as clever as you or me. 
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post #123 of 138
2/10/10 at 1:42pm
I have no faith is the last post viewed. It is poorly implemented and ceratin not well tested. For examp,e if there is a thread consisting of a numbe4r of pages and I look at all the items on the first pages. The next time I selected this thread and click on go to the last thread. I end up on the last post on the last page which I have never been too!

I also don't like clicking on any of the posts in the blue area "Recent Discussions" because it takes me to the last post on the last page because it will be marked that is my last post viewed. Instead I click on view: new posts which is below "Recent Discussions.

 

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post #124 of 138
2/10/10 at 5:43pm
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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon View Post


Bill:

I'm trying to figure out if you're yanking my chain…or posting with a sense of irony. 

The issue at hand is that the quoted text is supposed to appear at the top of the reply with the comments of the person responding underneath.  A secondary issue is the number of extraneous blank lines which appear inside and above the quoted text.

One of the places where this is commonly evident is any thread featuring posts from Robert Harris.  Whenever RAH quotes someone and responds to it, inevitably his comments appear above the quoted text (kinda like your post #119 above). 

 

 



I guess I misunderstood your issue. I thought you were saying that you were unable to quote the post. I'm well aware of the extraneous lines and placement of the quote. But, that happens for all quotes. I didn't see anything special about that particular one.

What can I say? It's a top-post world. See Outlook. In some cases top-posting (top-quoting?) has its advantages, but in forum posts, probably not so much.

Just to be clear, my text in that post was above the quote only because I was not replying to that post - only using it as an example of being able to quote it.
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post #125 of 138
2/10/10 at 6:29pm
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Gotcha. 

I think we understand each other.  Scary, ain't it? 
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post #126 of 138
2/10/10 at 10:11pm
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Originally Posted by TonyD View Post

Whenever I quote someone I just scroll to the bottom and start my message.

Whenever _I_ quote someone I spend 30 seconds fixing the piece of junk look into something more humane...  As above. 

Top Post replies are fine for Email, but only if you are not replying to multiple sub-chunks.  Bottom Post replies for forums, always.  And Bottom post on Email replies too when you have multiple quoted chunks to reply to.
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post #127 of 138
2/10/10 at 11:45pm
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Originally Posted by Sam Posten View Post

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Whenever _I_ quote someone I spend 30 seconds fixing the piece of junk look into something more humane...  As above. 

Top Post replies are fine for Email, but only if you are not replying to multiple sub-chunks.  Bottom Post replies for forums, always.  And Bottom post on Email replies too when you have multiple quoted chunks to reply to.
 

This forum software also doesn't make it easy to break up a big quoted post to reply in sub-chunks (as pretty standard way to discuss things in forums).

At one point early on during the transition, I figured out a simple workaround (to just change the formatting from "Normal (DIV)" to "Normal" at the points where I want to break the quote into sub-chunks), but lately, that approach doesn't work most of the time anymore -- at least for IE6.

And honestly, nobody should think Outlook sets the gold seal standard for how to reply to posts and emails either...

_Man_
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post #128 of 138
2/11/10 at 6:48am
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Originally Posted by Sam Posten View Post

Whenever _I_ quote someone I spend 30 seconds fixing the piece of junk look into something more humane...  As above. 


Completely.  And if you want to see a member who doesn't realize this, I repeat my remark about RAH.  I enjoy reading his threads greatly.  But whenever he responds to someone else's posts, it's not clear what he's doing until you've read through his remarks and see the quoted material to which he is responding underneath--with all the extra line breaks, etc. 

It takes a lot of back-spacing and tweaking to get the "quote thing" to look as good as what Sam and I are doing here.    (If we say so ourselves!)

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Top Post replies are fine for Email, but only if you are not replying to multiple sub-chunks.  Bottom Post replies for forums, always.  And Bottom post on Email replies too when you have multiple quoted chunks to reply to.

On this I agree as well.  Because of the nature of discussion forums, one is not always responding to the previous post.  Often one is responding to remarks made several posts before.  This is why the quote feature exists.  And it's why the quote should appear BEFORE the response--so that we have some context in which to understand the response. 

I cannot tell you how many times I have been confused by RAH's responses--in the sense that they don't seem to fit the flow of the discussion--only to find out that once I'm done he was responding to someone several posts back. 
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post #129 of 138
2/12/10 at 11:01am
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Re: PMs.

On the home page, there is a  listing of recent PM threads in the upper right-hand column.  Why not have that same listing available on the PM thread pages themselves?

Here's why.  Let's say i have 3 new PMs in three different threads--all at the same time.  I click on one PM, read the message and respond.  I then have to exit that page to regenerate a list of PMs.   Then click on the link to the 2nd thread and repeat it all over again.  If I could maintain the list of my PM threads throughout the PM process it would make it easier to navigate within the PM realm.

This, of course, is on top of the other main PM concern about never being able to get to the first unread PM in a thread.
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post #130 of 138
2/12/10 at 1:06pm
Heh, at risk of expanding the Mike / Sam echo chamber I have to add that I always thought that was wonky myself, and a byproduct of being designed by someone who didn't really actually use PMs all that much or used them significantly differently than I do...  But yeah, I agree, it's odd and a pain that those alerts/links arent there.
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post #131 of 138
3/4/10 at 12:32pm
Re IE6:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/03/04/ie6.funeral/index.html
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post #132 of 138
3/4/10 at 12:37pm
....and good riddance!

I'm forced to use that cruddy browser version
every day at work and I hate it.
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post #133 of 138
3/4/10 at 1:38pm
Thread Starter 
  Thanks, Sam 

We'll have to see if Man gets to upgrade...
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post #134 of 138
3/9/10 at 7:19pm
Does anyone else have a problem with their subscriptions sticking?  It seems I need to subscribe to some threads multiple times.
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post #135 of 138
3/10/10 at 5:17am
It is quite possible that HTF was down for a few minutes yesterday circa noon (NYC time). I was trying to submit a reply  and the please wait didn't end and stated it  try later.A few minutes later I tried and it worked. Perhaps you trying to save the subscription happened during this down time.
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post #136 of 138
3/10/10 at 10:54am
It's happened quite a few times over several weeks. 
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post #137 of 138
4/21/10 at 9:26pm
Just an FYI I am going to be consolidating the suggestions (again) in the blue announcment box on top of the suggestion box (http://www.hometheaterforum.com/forum/list/53676) over the next couple of days along with an approximate time frame (if any). Hopefully I will have it done by 4/26 
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post #138 of 138
4/22/10 at 7:52am
I like this approach. 
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