The new "Battlestar Galactica TV series"

I know as of late i have been posting to see if i could come up with anything to discuss with my fellow board members? since postings on the "Superman 2 Donner re-cut" want only one thread devoted to it? I thought i could direct my attention to a another cause seriously?

The recent "Battlestar Galactica" franchise has been fighting to come back as a major pilot and series all year! No dout that many sci-fi fans would be interested in seeing a comeback of this overlooked and underated franchise!

I want to start a thread devoted to the series return! Other sci-fi and fantasy based shows have a forum to discuss what they like about a TV show or dislike? with BSG coming back i thought it strange no one isn't talking about it here on the boards as much as other shows!

There has been silence about the new production and only over the recent weeks have anyone seen new designs and images from the new show (Although they were rejected designs?)

There has been a "Petition" (Which got 10,000+ votes)to keep studio's like FOX interested in doing the show and support it?
With movie and TV fans coming to "Home Theater Forum" and petitioning for what they want or matters of discussing favorite movies or series. I thought if anyone out there want a "Thread" to discuss "Galactica" here on HTF should come here.

When the series or pilot does go into production and starts filming or before it, wouldn't it be prudent if BSG fans or fans of sci-fi in general to share information gathered from internet or pass information on current developments on the production (Based in Vancouver, Canada) to others on this site? I want to take an example from "Star Wars Episode 2" since there is always news on "Star Wars"!

It take it if they can huddle together and discuss Star Wars related news and events the Battlestar Galactica fanbase can do the same? even though the news from the new Tom DeSanto Galactica is not coming through as much as we would like?

There are many great show for Battlestar Galactica to go up against if it comes back? the yet to be aired B5: Legend of the Rangers, Enterprise, Farscape, Andromeda, X-Files(Still?)and other genre series would it be great to talk BSG along side those shows as well?

Here's hoping i can get someone on the Battlestar Galactica bandwagon even if the new production is taking time!

see ya

Come on fellow Jason's must not have negative attitudes (Laugh) your honestly going to say those things in light of the wave of sci-fi franchises out there?

Battlestar Galctica has potential that needs to be unlocked? imagination is whats needed! What would happen if Star Trek didn't have a movie franchise with ST: "The Motion Picture" then there would be no, "Wrath of Khan" or other sequels, no talk of doing a second series, NO ST: TNG, NO ST: DSN, ST: VOYAGER, NO ST: ENTERPRISE No Franchise!
I'm not a nerd or geek, what i am and others here are. Are "Genre Buffs" we like the Sci-fi and drama shows, are movies and DVD movie collections! chit chat on girls and piping ho's(Laugh )and other stuff!

The project is not dead in the water? so have faith? TV excutives are dumb! hopefully the sheep in the boardroom will follow the leader when one decides to say yes! and then Bryan Singer's buddy Tom DeSanto can give the fans what we want to see BSG again!

Its safe to say we live in the era of "Genre" movie and TV Series! (9+ seasons of the X-Files says so) don't lose faith BSG and other shows we make a comeback!

All BSG fans come here to keep the faith

I think you need to go to site such as WWW.BattlestarGalactica.com and WWW.BattlestarPegasus.com and www.Battlestarfanclub.com www.sci-fichannel.com for info on what the current situation on BSG really is? because i hear other parties other than Fox ARE interested!!!

The only reason you may be bored is because late 90's sci-fi shows and early 2001 shows still follow the same story telling style? i bet with good written scripts, original ideas and characters that make you give a damn! Old shows like BSG with new ideas built around the old story premise would still pull in new viewers!

I refuse to believe no one interested in that come on!!!

Well Mr Seaver Jeff's here!

As for Galactica's premise being original well it is! Humans looking for Earth almost as if they are the Aliens? Let face facts BSG was looking for the "3rd rock from the Sun" (a little humor) way before ST: Voyager was.
and had more references to ancient earth than Stargate-SG1 (which is in my opinion inferior to the movie?!)

One can only wait and see what becomes of the efforts to revive this show and watch the unfolding developments to see which one of us is right!

"Whoop-de-smeggin-do?" yeah right! remember this is the Battlestar Galactica thread? you should make your "Red Dwarf" thread on your own time?

If don't like Galactica then why post here???

Well you have the right to your opinion, but the movie had more going for it, Kurt Russell's Colonel O'neill is far more believeble as a military man and has more pathos, than the comic relief "MacGuyver" version of O'neill? Lets face facts, if movie never was done then the series would not be around? but i still respect your opinions!

Back to the point does any want to share anything on BSG!

Well i still say the movie versions of those characters would, beat the TV versions!

The TV series destroyed the chance of a sequel or movie series! say what you want about "Independance Day" from Roland Emmerich and Dean Delvin, but Stargate was a movie franchise thing?

But hey ISN'T THIS THREAD SUPPOSE TO BE ABOUT GALACTICA

O.K. Jeff! i know you've said this on the other Galactica post but?

Explain the "Cloven hoof footage" thing from "War of the Gods" which was said to be filmed but cut out?! (even you got to agree its part of "Galactica Lore") Everyone talks about the "Hoof Footage" when talking about that episode? too many people have brought it up?

That scene when Apollo looks in is badly edited looks like something was cut? or moved around haphazzardly! (Look at the episode again and see that Starbuck is running to see what Apollo is gazing at but in the next shot is backing out looking shocked?)

My second question is do you know how much footage exactly was filmed for the pilot (i.e. The Serina cut scenes, Cassiopia's death on Carillon? Longer extended scenes of the destruction of the colonies!, extended scenes of Starbuck and Athena on the Galactica bridge? and the Carillon bar! scenes)

O.K. Now let the sharing of info begin

Todd in the episode "War of the Gods" Silver spar squadron is out on patrol when they vanish, after unknown light orbs come out of nowhere and races around the Vipers ships at the speed of thought.

The Galactica sents out Apollo, Starbuck and Sheba on recon. And they investigate and come to what appears at first to be a "Red Planet" and after they land they head to a large crater (which is described as "being big as a Battlestar") before they go down to see it closer a Man called Count Iblis comes out and greets them.He says there is no need to see the inside of crashed ship because he is the only survivor?

Behaving strange and confused they take him to the Galactica (when they call for a shuttle) before they do the light orbs come again causing harm to mortal ears but Count Iblis is uneffected? and tells Apollo he has been to Earth!

To cut a long story short, Count Iblis performs miracles (apparently)when is in the colonial fleet! he even tells Adama about Kobal and it's history and the journey made by the thirteenth tribe.

All the while the colonial fleet is being plagued by the "ships of light" each time losting Viper patrols? During this time the Count seduces Sheba, (Sheba comments he reminds her of a father "Commander Cain" later on the agroship he states she will see him again?!) has to complete three tasks of One!, Deliver Baltar, Two! Bring the Colonial Fleet to Earth!, The Third is not made yet?

After the the light orbs pass a Cylon Basestar Baltar goes to the Galactica? and is quickly sentenced to life on the prison barge.(For someone who caused the destruction of 12 planets and billions of deaths? no death sentence carried out is strange?)

Later on of the series most important revealations plays out! Count Iblis visits Baltar. Baltar recognizes his voice as the same as the Imperious Leader! Iblis says it not possible? Cylons are machines! Baltar claims over One Thousand Yahrens(years) The Cylons fell and were overcome with their own Technology? Iblis says that would make him over Thousand yahrens old!!!

Iblis leaves baltar when he says to him "Fear not, old friend all is not lost" Adama later tell Apollo, the key to iblis identity is in the crashed wrecked ship! Apollo joined by Starbuck go on a shuttle to the "Red Planet" Iblis picks out adama's thoughts on the agroship, and warns Adama that "breaking a bargain with him" will follow a high price and will start with a life more meaningful than his own!

Sheba still entralled by the Count, follows the shuttle to the Red Planet Once there Starbuck and Apollo enter the Wreckage which Iblis said had high radon levels! (Radiation) Apollo come to a large section of a burned out door to a destroyed chamber and pulls it down looking inside briefly he calls Starbuck over, They both see something horrible (but not us poor viewers)

Sheba arrives and tries to get pass Apollo then Starbuck tell Apollo to let Sheba see it, just befoe she does a cry is heard on the hillside "NO, I FORBID IT" and lightning explodes in the sky!

Count Iblis demands Apollo let go of Sheba and commands him to let go. Apollo corrects him saying he cannot command him because he has no power over him unless he gives him dominion! Iblis warns him again or he will strike her down Apollo angered by the Counts remarks shoots his laser pistol at Iblis, Iblis is invunerable to laserfire but his form changes to a "Demonic creature". Apollo is killed in a blast by Iblis, that was meant for Sheba. Starbuck is enraged and shoots Iblis again and again but is unble to kill an immortal Demonic creature or advance being like Count Iblis.

The white light orbs appear and Iblis looking concerned leaves but promises to return one day and teleports away revealing his true form as he does!
As Starbuck and Sheba return to the Galactica with Apollo body the Shuttle is enveloped by the huge Ship of lights?

Here endth the lession!

* Trivia : Iblis is immortal, has powers of Teleportation, and telepathy, Psionic's and others, but cannot command people with freewill or order people to do anything with the great powers he has! but he can trick or manipulate situations to his advantage. (Iblis and the people of the Lightship are references to "Angels's and Demons" in religious following.

* Iblis and his people are from an advance race. possible they were around and had a hand in Kobal's rise and fall?(He says the same thing of Earth's history to Adama?)

* Count Iblis is technically the "Imperious Leader" and had a hand in it's destruction of the original "Cylon race"

* Because of Sheba's references to Commander Cain, Iblis comments of him and Apollo's line of it's "big as a Battlestar" fans thought the body in the ship was the remains of Commander Cain in the wreckage of the "Battlestar Pegasus" (See Jon Strauss article in "Galactica Revisted")

* "Iblis" is Moslem for Satan!

Funny you should say that about the "Pegasus" according to Battlestar Zone.com or net? Larry Mager and Susan J. Paxton article on "Lost Battlestars" says there were rumors of the Galactica meeting up with another "Battlestar" during the never filmed second season, and that ship was to be the "Battlestar Prometheus"

I suppose you can all take that with a "grain of salt" in terms of believing everything? Reputedly i take it as a maybe? the article does have more information on those "Lost Battlestars" questions? such as names of other ships mentioned throughout the series like in the backround dialogue in the pilot!

Names mentioned in the pilot!

* "Acropolis"
* "Pacifica"
* "Atlantia"
* "Triton" (Note. Battlestar Zone claims, the Triton is an escort ship? but she was mentioned in the pilot!)

Names mentiond in fandom!

* "Valiant"
* "Olympia"
* "Bellerophon"
* "Posiedon"
* "Argo"

Names mentioned in novels!

* "Cerberus" from: War of the Gods novel
Note. according to Battlestar Zone, the Cerberus and Prometheus had insignia and some helmet designs done "THE PROMETHEUS HOLDING A BURNING TORCH AND THE CERBERUS WITH A THREE HEADED DOG OR WOLF DESIGN ON A VIPER HELMET!

Also passage from this novel was used to create a "Maximum Press" BSG comic book story during the "Cylon Empire Vs Colonials" War story entitled "Baptism of Fire" featuring a young Adama and Cain!

* "Solaria" From: Battlestar Galactica novel (Note in the pilot adaption novel the "Solaria" was the last "Battlestar" destroyed in the Cylon sneak attack at Cimtar!)

* "Atlantia" From :"BSG novel" and "Tombs of Kobal" (Note: According to the novel Dietra survived from the "Atlantia"

Mentioned and seen in the series

* Galactica, Atlantia, Pegasus/ Mentioned throughout series: Rycon, Columbia (Cadet Cree may have been from the Columbia, Baltar's Battlestar was said to be the Columbia also? (see novels)

But if you take into account that the, Cerberus and Prometheus had insignia work done? then that at least says it would be be canon had the second series used those designs! or something along those lines?

Yeah i can say ghostwriter, but Glen Larson hasn't listened to the backround dialogue in the pilot? very well has he! other "Battlestar" names have been mentioned! but no one was careful enough about how it fits into the Galactica storyline? We don't know much "ANYTHING" about the famous battles brought up in some of the episodes, only their names "THE BATTLE OF MOLECAY", "THE BATTLE OF COSMORA ARCHIPELAGO" and Larson wrote "Living Legend" so whats his excuse?

Battlestar Galactica is said to be the work of "Leslie Stevens as well as "Glen Larsen!" But since many fans know of BSG being rushed and pushed, into production! Also the "ABC" Vs Universal's problems with this show?

We know this show, is more than the sum of it's parts!