Lost: Season Six - Page 19

One thing I don't get... According to the pop-up texts on the previous episode Kate has joined Team Locke?  I didn't think she was joining so much as she didn't have any place else to go.  Lets hope she's more like... infiltrating. 

And do the DVD/Blu-rays come with a feature to engage those handy pop-ups?

Just to mention it again, the pop-ups are *not* made by ABC or even anyone connected with the show, Bad Robot, or the producers.  They are made by an advertising firm, and not even checked by anyone on the show before airing.  They are essentially wikipedia paragraphs displayed on-screen.

Thanks for the info, Josh.  While they seem to have a lot of knowledge... Like being able to translate Dogen's insults....   It's nice to know they do not have the definitive inside scoop.  They sure are good at knowing what episode who did what to whom, though!

A lot of good humor tonight. I really liked how Miles said, "Oh-oh".

I agree Michael Emerson had some good scenes tonight. Surprised they let him rejoin the group. Thought the sub might try to kill Linus, but it looks like Widmore and Linus will be re-engaging their conflict.

I agree about Kate, she is along for the ride for now. 

Kate is ALWAYS along for the ride.  She does what she needs to do to tread water and stay alive.

Tonight may have been my favorite episode of the series.  Certainly top 5.  Emerson was brilliant.  And, since Ben is my favorite character it was great to see his arc come full circle both in the present and in the flash sideways.  He finally makes a sacrifice (in the flash sideways) and I think he will make one in the present as well.

It looks like Jack has really finally come to a realization as well.  His pragmatic leadership and perfectionism combined with true faith?  Can't wait to see what he does.

I think we get Richard's backstory next week.  Looking forward to that.

Oh, and I guess it is now solidified that the flash sideways is NOT a reality where Juliet sets the bomb went off and destroys the island.  It's a totally different reality where Ben's dad is a decent fellow and they left the island together.  I don't know what it is or what it represents but I do know that it illustrates how different decisions can change everything.  And, in this reality Dr. Linus and Alex get a happy ending.

We learned the Island existed in the alternate timeline as well and Ben and his father simply left. The island went deep sea diving some time after that. Did leaving the island and spending time with his father turn Ben into a moral person? It looks like it, though one could say that if there's some type of faint echo from the other timeline, he's predisposed to care more about Alex specifically.
 
We learned that candidates can't kill themselves, but can be killed by others. This means even though Jack lights the dynamite, it won't explode because then Jack would be killing himself along with Richard.

Finally, an exciting Lost episode, but what was Alex doing in L.A.? Didn't Rousseau live in Europe?

So everybody lives in the same L.A. neighborhood? - Arzt, Rousseau, Ben(what happened to Seattle?), Sayid's girlfriend, that merc from season 3, Rose (she's from New York).

That just seems so strange.

What's the deal with Ilanna's backstory? Jacob visted her enough be like a father to her?

There are only 6 left. Who are they? Ilanna knows that Sayid is out....

I wondered why they don't appear on the DVD/BD releases. Guess this explains it

The end scene will show them all at a party in LA and ever the joker, Hurley is seen dumping a bunch of LSD into the punch.  Fade out showing the party goers tripping out with flashes of 'the island' The End.

Another good episode, the Ben stuff was great both on the island and off.

Still no closer to who the good guys are - although I think that is a question that won't be answered.

First post in long time....

My theory on the seperate time lines and the jughead explosion.
I imagine the time line as a straight line...for example....a rope.
Now if an explosion happened within the rope and cut the one rope into two this gives the two seperate time lines.
But he is the kicker....the rope is still one at the ends with the area around the explosion splitting forming a shape like a eye.  Now based on the explosion,  the rope would actually split before the explosion.  This is the reason why it appears that things we very different in the alternate timeline, even before flight 815.  You have one time line, it then splits way before the explosion....but then the time lines will merge again at sometime after the explosion....just a theory.
 

By the way, I have it on good account that the series finale will be Locke's group and Jack's group will get together and play truth or dare...this is how we will find out all the unanswered questions....

And then the pop-up essentially contradicts itself the next time it talks about Kate: It says this is the first time she has seen the "resurrected" Locke and she knows Locke is on the wrong side.

So, the pop-up implies she hasn't really joined him.

I don't think Kate "joined" Locke and the others, she didn't know what was going on, they were there and she decided to go with them.  The look Locke gives her when she walks out of the Temple makes me think he doesn't trust her/want her.

I think it's obvious Lockes camp are the bad guys, Locke especially and for the most part Claire and Syid.

I thought the scene with Ben's repentence was awesome.

This may purely be the unintended consequence of how the two timelines are edited together, but after the last two episodes I can't help but wonder if it's the other way around: choices in the non-crash timeline have implication's in the original timeline. It almost seems as if Ben's sacrifice for Alex in the sideways world somehow informed his behavior on the island.

Rather than kill Ilana, he confessed to her, and when offered redemption he accepted it. It very much felt that somehow the power of his redemption had leaked into his island fate.

Off island, Sayid accepted that he was not good enough for Nadia, and eliminated the thugs shaking down his brother, it sealed his fate on the island. He joined the Man in Black and eliminated Dogan.
Edited by Tim Gerdes - 3/10/10 at 4:48pm

This is slightly off topic, but while watching horror films and television shows during the 10th Annual HTF October Scary Movie Challenge (in particular, an episode of The Nightmare Room entitled "Scareful What You Wish For"), I saw a face that looked familiar to me. It's been bugging me for a while who one of the characters in that episode reminded me of, and I finally got it by looking at the credits for that episode, and then doing a Google image search on a couple of those names.  My children -- who love The Nightmare Room as well as Lost -- are going to be really surprised when they see "Scareful What You Wish For" again. :)

There are wildly divergent opinions about which mysteries have been resolved and which haven't.  It's all a matter of perspective.

In regards to the brainwashing room, I'd have been inclined to agree with your opinion, were it not for this:

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show) Last night's episode was my favorite of the season so far.  Good good character moments, and some stellar acting from Michael Emerson.

Speaking of Room 23, we watched Not In Portland last night, and I saw something that I hadn't picked up on before.  When Sawyer is watching the images that Carl was being subjected to, he (Sawyer) was momentarily transfixed -- almost as if he were just about to go under the influence of the Ludovico Technique.  It took Kate's yelling his name to break him of whatever trance he was beginning to succumb to (IMO).  BTW, I've slowed down those images a few times during the episode to see what is actually on the screen.

Richard is still around and He was also touched by Jacob, could he be the final rreplacement.

I always laugh when I see William Atherton in a show or movie.  He is the ultimate typecast....He always plays a swarmy a-hole.  

Guess Jack got his Locke-ish faith back after almost giving it up two weeks ago. The scene with Richard and the dynamite shows, IMO, that Jack has become every bit as fanatical as Locke was.

Quote: His imdb even says that "Veteran character actor often cast as sleazy villain or self-absorbed yuppie."

^^^^^^^

It's funny because people have asked questions about his roles and they all say he is the nicest guy.

"Yes, this man has no dick."

Everytime I see him, all I can think of is the popcorn scene in "Real Genius", which is a favorite of my kids.  But yeah, he's great in all of those.  "It's God Kent"  :)

Good episode last night.  Best of the season I thought as far as actually answering questions.

 Did anyone think for just a second that maybe the school nurse would somehow end up being Juliet?

Then Arzt showed up, so I decided against that theory, but still, for just a second I thought it might be the case. 

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William Atherton is so good at that sort of role.

A careful examination at the maneuvering between sideways Ben and the Principal yielded mixed results for a lot of fans. There's much back-and-forth about whether or not Ben should/could have used the '30 emails over 3 months' evidence to additionally persuade the Principal to write a letter of recommendation for Alex.  In other words, when Ben was presented with the threat of 'torching' Alex's future, he could have just used the evidence of the Principal's indiscretion as further persuasion.  It appears that Ben was convinced that his 'ammunition' against the Principal was just enough to take over the job, but not enough to save Alex.  A lot of fans, in response to this, are asking why Ben didn't just press his Machiavellian scheme further along?

In situations like this, I really try to look at the writers' intent for the episode and whether that intent comes through enough for me to suspend my disbelief when things appear to fall apart. 

In the case of 'Dr. Linus,' Ben needed to be presented with a choice that mirrored the choice he confronted when he failed to save Alex in Season 4.  It's the choice between power or love?  Between holding onto what you think you need and letting go and making someone else more important.  That's what it amounts to.  Back on the Island, Ben was given a choice between the Island and what it represented for him, or saving his daughter's life, and he hesitated.  She died.

In the sideways, Ben was posed with the exact same choice, under wildly different circumstances, and chose the other way.  The writers felt the need to set up a circumstance where he would be directly confronted with a situation that didn't just passively imperile Alex's future (such as, no letter of recommendation), but actively threatened her future.  They needed the situation to mirror the Island.  The stakes also needed to be high, so that his choice would hold more weight.  The minutiae the writers waded through when setting up the scene in the Principal's office may be slightly flawed under close examination, but I get the story they were trying to tell.  And I was okay with it.  After all, the Principal could have 'torched' Alex's chances of getting into Yale after leaving his position at the High School.  I'm sure Ben knew this, and didn't want to take any chances.  Bottom line is, her future was more important to him.