Lost: Season Six - Page 18

I'd just assumed that young Ben evacuated the Island along with many other Dharma people as per the warning that Miles gave his father.

Last time we saw young Ben, he was being told by Widmore he had to return to the Dharma barracks. We never saw him arrive there, but that may just have taken place "off screen" and he left the island on the sub with the rest of the women and children.

Or, it may turn out that jughead is not the cause of the flash-sideways timeline after all.

I wonder what is up with the pouch of ash Ilana took from where Jacob burnt up?  Also, any guesses about who the mother of Jack's son is?  Could it be Juliet?

I also figured Ben evacuated with the others on the submarine before the Big Bang.  


She's either going to use the pouch as to replace the weight of the idol when she steals it, or spread the ashes on the ground and sprinkle blood on them to bring Jacob back to life. 

Joe

Well, the Jughead detonation happened a while after Sayid got shot so theoretically there'd still be time for Ben to return. Unless the sub had already left at that point, I can't really remember.

Yep, and that's what I am implying by the question, but who knows?

The producers have roughly 42 minutes to tell their stories, and the run-up to Jughead was the climax of a season.  By definition the last chapter of any book, the last act of any TV show or the last episode of any season of a serial TV show is going to move at breakneck pace.  You can't cut away from the crisis that your main characters are experiencing and stop the story dead in its tracks, just to show what people who aren't moving the story forward are doing.  If we need to find out what happened to them, the producers can fill us in next season.  There isn't even time to name-check people in the dialogue solely for the purpose of addressing a plot point that won't be a plot point for another four or five episodes.  In an episode like "The Incident" you have to decide what story you're telling and tell it.  You can't leave out essentials or screw up the pacing in order to cover extra stuff, even if it is stuff the audience would be interested in or which it might be helpful for them to know sooner than they're going to find out. 

Regards,

Joe

showing Ben being rushed off the Island in the season ender would be inconsistently consistent for this series :P  but when i saw him in the classroom scene, my first thought wasn't 'why didn't they show him getting rushed off the Island'.  to me it was a no brainer and problably something i'd expect to see in a deleted scene section.  i'd watch it and think 'why did they even bother filming it'.

I apologize if this was already posted here.  I'm pretty sure I've ready every post on here and don't remember seeing it, but it is from a week ago.

I suppose this isn't a surprise to any of us, but it's a little disconcerting that the excuse is "they have run out of time" considering they've known how many episodes remained over 3 years ago.  I guess that supports my theory that this show wasn't as well planned out as some seem to think (though I'm sure the show's defenders will make "strong" arguments against it. )

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/01/AR2010030103497.html

I'm gonna go with the latter, Joe.  But, you might want to hang on to that first idea for a new spec or something.  That has real potential!

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The problem with that is viewers will have varying opinions on what is "small" and what is "big".

And I'm not so sure we will find out for certain what the island really is.

Exactly.  In fact, there's a post from earlier in this thread to an interview with Cuse/Lindelof where they specifically said they will answer EVERY major question they could possibly think of.

I actually wouldn't mind seeing Mikhael again.  It's been kind of set up as a running joke that the dude is un-killable.

I am not sure what it is about this season, but it just no longer feels like "Lost".  The look of the show has changed.  The way it is shot.  The foliage on the island looks different.  Perhaps this is all intentional, but I just am not hooked this last season the way I had been the previous.  The characters seems like parodies of themselves.  I tend to enjoy the bits of them back in LA far more than the madness on the island.
I am really sad it is over, but better to end it than drag it out like it is.  I pray the creators prove me wrong!

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I would agree with that.

It has been stated officially that we will find out what the Island 'is,' but even that is up to interpretation.  Does it mean we will have the inherent nature of the Island vaguely explained, or is the Island something more tangible that can be specifically named?  We won't know anything until the finale.

I have a feeling that many, many questions will linger post-finale.  There is so much confusion that's been generated just by Season 6 alone, that there's no way most threads from the past five Seasons are going to get resolved satisfactorily in the next ten hours.  No way. 

There are questions I'd personally like to see answered, but I'm going to do my best to ignore them and focus on getting through the finale with my brain intact.

ScottH, you're right about varying opinions about what constitutes 'small' and 'big' mysteries on the Island.  Everyone wants something a little different.  Some want Room 23 and Adam & Eve tackled.  Others want to know if Locke and Jack are going to find peace of mind or reconciliation.  Sometimes it feels like there are two camps of viewership: those who tune in more for the relationships and character moments, and those who are more hooked on the mythology and the science fiction.

This much is clear: the writers are tellings the story they want to tell.  On the other hand, if most fans who have been watching since day one are still having trouble connecting the dots on issues the writers tell us have been explained already (such as, Island Infertility), it's not unreasonable to ask for clarification.  It just may not happen in the show.  Is it too much to ask for a special section on the DVD/blu-ray box set that addresses all the major questions?

LOST has thrived on deliberate obfuscation time and time again (even with issues that have turned out to have rather banal explanations) in order to prolong the suspense and the mystery that pervades the series from episode to episode.  It's manipulative, but any kind of adventure serial (from Sherlock Holmes to Tarzan to Zorro, you name it) engaged in such dramatic devices to keep viewership or readership.  I think this obfuscation has done a great job of making the show what it is, but it has also clouded issues for viewers that in the creators' minds, are easily explained, clear-cut phenomenon. 

Once Lost: the Series ends, we may get Lost: the Comic, Lost: the Novel, Lost: the Animated Series, etc. etc.  This is similar to what happened with McGoohan's Prisoner or Whedon's Buffy after their finales aired.  Much of the mythology has not directly involved the main characters on the show (i.e. they weren't around for it).  Lindelof and Cuse have repeatedly stated that the only issues they're truly committed to answering are the ones the main characters want to see dealt with.  The rest of this Season is tasked with resolving the main cast's issues, and everything else is just window dressing, and can be tackled in graphic novels and other media that will no doubt resurface later.

 

In the case of LOST, I'd love to see an animated series (a la The Animatrix) that fleshes out the mythology in the show that the writers don't have time to deal with.  It would be neat to see different artists' interpretations of the Island, and different stories from Candidates we haven't gotten to know very well on the series.

I had to google that to find out what the "room 23" being referred to is (where Karl was being brainwashed to follow Jacob if you didn't know either), but I didn't think there was really anything else that had to be explained about that, honestly.

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I could see the final scene of the series showing who they are.

I'm curious to see how they will handle covering all the characters as the finale draws near (as well as the finale itself).  With such a huge ensemble cast it's difficult getting them all screen time (as evidenced by the rotation since essentially the show started).  Maybe they'll have to start killing them off...

Except that there are also production reasons for these things.  Would it be worth making Michael Emerson show up on a day he wouldn't otherwise have worked to jam him into one shot for ten seconds?  (Which might have taken an hour or more to shoot once you allow for the master, various angles and two or three takes of each for coverage.)  Fans don't take things like that into consideration.  Producers have to. 

Regards,

Joe

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While you're correct, there are production reasons for certain things, I don't think your specific example is one of them.  If they really wanted Michael Emerson for a quick scene like that they would just do it on a day he was already shooting.

Actually mentioning Nikki and Paolo tonight was a big surprise - some actual payoff to that episode.   Another big surprise was them actually discussing the candidates business.  And then there was the ending ....  A great episode!

Looks like Widmore is ready to torpedo the beach, plus Michael Emerson is simply brilliant.