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post #91 of 137
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Which is the reason why I haven't bought "The White Buffalo" because I'm not sure it's anamorphic.





Crawdaddy

WHITE BUFFALO is anamorphic and a good transfer.  You should have no problems.
post #92 of 137
Thanks Allen, dvd ordered.






Crawdaddy
post #93 of 137
HOUSE OF THE LONG SHADOWS is, disappointingly, fullscreen (like it says on the box, but I was hoping for a mistake).  
post #94 of 137
I see that Amazon has removed THE BEST MAN from the list of titles.  I know that there were a lot of discs that went out that had problems with it stoping 48 minutes into the film. 

Also all the other titles are listed as "In Stock" except the TV shows.
post #95 of 137
THE BEST MAN is expected to be back in stock in early June.  
post #96 of 137
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THE BEST MAN is expected to be back in stock in early June.  

Thanks for the info maybe they can fix the problem and release it anamorphic.
post #97 of 137
As was mentioned earlier, those who get the fantastic MGM HD Channel and have a DVD recorder can get most, if not all, of these titles on DVD-Rs in true ANAMORPHIC widescreen.  The only thing you have to put up with is a MGM HD logo on screen and some films are shown with one interruption in the middle, but careful editing when copying the film from a DVR onto a DVD-R can eliminate that.  The sat signal from DIRECTV offers amazing clarity.  

If the studios are going to offer a product that may not even be marginally better than homemade, then I'm happy to settle for genuine homemade.
post #98 of 137

The Gallant Hours and 8 On The Lamb are widescreen anamorphic, Cold Turkey is widescreen non-anamorphic, House of Long Shadows is a full screen transfer.  The worst is Fitzwilly which while anamorphic, it was filmed 2:35 to 1 Panavision, the presentation is more like 2 to 1 with the main titles cut off on the sides.  I can not believe that anyone would release a DVD like this.  Cold Turkey is a disappointment in that the transfer is pretty good but it should have been anamorphic.  House of Long Shadows is the worst of the bunch, in that not only is a full screen transfer, should have been widescreen anamorphic, but the transfer used is on the tired side.

 

post #99 of 137
Does anyone know if it is difficult  to release a film in anamorphic format? Does it involve any prohibitive costs to the distributor?  Is that the reason these films aren't being released that way--or is it oversight or just "not caring?" I am curious to know. Whatever the reason, it's sure infuriating!!
post #100 of 137
Looks like THE BEST MAN is shipping next week. It's back in stock at Amazon anyway. 
post #101 of 137
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Does anyone know if it is difficult  to release a film in anamorphic format? Does it involve any prohibitive costs to the distributor?  Is that the reason these films aren't being released that way--or is it oversight or just "not caring?" I am curious to know. Whatever the reason, it's sure infuriating!!
 

Bill Hunt at Digital Bits at one time said all that was needed was a push of a button.  Not sure if it is that easy, but all of the Warner Archive titles that were Scope or Widescreen are transferred as Anamorphic. So it should not be that hard or cost prohibitive. Especially titles like Cold Turkey, Toys In The Attic and The Best Man, the transfer is letterboxed with black bars at the top and bottom, but presented in 1:33 to 1 so you have black bars on  all three four sides.  With the majority of people having widescreen TVs, it is ridiculous to anything that is not anamorphic.
post #102 of 137
The original film-to-video transfer needs to be anamorphic in order for there to be any advantage to it - and that is something that wasn't common until DVD started up.

Many of these transfers were likely created for laserdisc and/or television broadcast. While they could be squeezed into an anamorphic format, nothing would be gained in terms of resolution - it wouldn't look any different than zooming to fill the screen.
post #103 of 137
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The original film-to-video transfer needs to be anamorphic in order for there to be any advantage to it - and that is something that wasn't common until DVD started up.

Many of these transfers were likely created for laserdisc and/or television broadcast. While they could be squeezed into an anamorphic format, nothing would be gained in terms of resolution - it wouldn't look any different than zooming to fill the screen.
 
How would these look on wide TV screen broadcast from TCM?  The same with black bars all around?
post #104 of 137
I made an error a few weeks ago and said that my copy of THE BEST MAN worked fine. Well, it didn't, and died at around the 48-minute mark, like everyone else's. (I may have confused it with some other title that arrived that day.) In any event I was sent a replacement, and I noted that it was back in stock at Amazon. Buyer beware: the second copy proved to have the same defect. I'm getting a refund now. If anyone has received a fixed, working copy please let us all know, much obliged.  
post #105 of 137
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I made an error a few weeks ago and said that my copy of THE BEST MAN worked fine. Well, it didn't, and died at around the 48-minute mark, like everyone else's. (I may have confused it with some other title that arrived that day.) In any event I was sent a replacement, and I noted that it was back in stock at Amazon. Buyer beware: the second copy proved to have the same defect. I'm getting a refund now. If anyone has received a fixed, working copy please let us all know, much obliged.  
My replacement came today with the same problem.  Back it goes.
post #106 of 137
I can't believe that MGM would sell a flawed product especially on that is manufactured on demand. I was going to pick up the gallant hours but after reading what has happened I am doubtful.
post #107 of 137
ahollis (above) said THE GALLANT HOURS is widescreen anamorphic, which is a good start. I'm assuming (assuming) no other problems with that particular title.  
post #108 of 137
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ahollis (above) said THE GALLANT HOURS is widescreen anamorphic, which is a good start. I'm assuming (assuming) no other problems with that particular title.  

It is widescreen anamorphic as I checked my disc this morning because DVD Profiler had it as being full frame.  I plan on watching the entire disc in the very near future.





Crawdaddy
post #109 of 137
I heard that the MOD program between Amazon and MGM is really between Amazon and a 3rd party and that the 3rd party licensed the titles from MGM.  Anyone else heard that?  That might be the reason for the sometimes anamorphic and sometimes not.  IT depended on what MGM turned over to them.
post #110 of 137
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Originally Posted by Bob Cashill View Post

ahollis (above) said THE GALLANT HOURS is widescreen anamorphic, which is a good start. I'm assuming (assuming) no other problems with that particular title.  

I did not have any problems with, not like I have with The Best Man.  By the way, Amazon again took that title down from "in stock" to tell when we have it.

I hope all of you enjoy it.  Cagney is pretty good in it.
post #111 of 137

For what it is worth, THE OFFENSE with Sean Connery is Widescreen - Anamorphic.  Interesting but drab film.  Decent transfer with muted colors that give the film a lot of focus and atmosphere. 

post #112 of 137

I got my first MGM/UA MOD title today. THE CARETAKERS. Alas, it couldn't even get past the title credits before freezing/stopping/jumping. I tried it on both my Toshiba DVD player and my Toshiba portable player. Back it goes for a replacement.

post #113 of 137

I got THE CARETAKERS as well, and while it is better than the one I recorded on DVD from TCM, it is interlaced and non-anamorphic. It is the same master used for broadcast, but looks marginally better without the quality issues of digital broadcasts. WICKED STEPMOTHER is 1.85:1 widescreen, non-anamorphic and interlaced, even though an HD master DOES exist and has been shown on Showtime HD. It should at least be anamorphic widescreen.

post #114 of 137

They really need to get these MODs to pressed disc. Independent video companies will custom press orders of as few as 300. Would go a long way in avoiding the skip/freeze issues constantly encountered...

post #115 of 137

But pressed discs are the least of MGM's worries if they're doing interlaced non-anamorphic transfers...

post #116 of 137

Those issues should certainly be dealt with, yes. But interlacing and non-anamorphic mean nothing if the disc doesn't play. The first priority among all studios doing MOD should be to only produce pressed discs.

post #117 of 137

Pressed discs aren't gonna happen on these budgets. They can program the MODs better.

post #118 of 137

Pressed discs are incredibly cheap to knock out,espescially on a small scale. You only have to look at the budget discs produced by the likes of Alpha.

 

The problem is that Warner is a major corporation and it "doesn't do small". Producing a disc at Warner always costs a lot because it involves a large part of a huge operation - for example, their marketing dvision. Moreover, Warner just isn't interested in making small amounts of profit - it's "if it doesn;t make ten million then it;s not worth our trouble"

 

Outfits like Alpha can do it because they are small, when they have discs they get them made in small numbers, and contract out to a cheap independent to do it. Precisely the opposite of Warner who probably spend more on designing the lettering on one their DVD covers than Alpha do on producing an entire release. Because of this they can operate on much small profits and profit margins.

 

I think of it this way: Warner are like a company that operates passenger liners. They transport large numbers of relatively wealthy people over long distances. They aren't set up for, and aren;t interested, in taking six people on third class fares across the local river in a small boat. It's an automatic loss for them.

 

The MOD system is probably a small department within Warner that operates on a semi-independent basis that doesn;t involve the mass machinery that a standard DVD release does. Also, the premium prices of the product give a big enough return to be "worthy" of Warner.

 

The price of physically producing the DVD discs themselves is pretty much a non-issue.

 

The main thing is the scale at which a company the size of Warner can profitably operate at - with a sufficient scale of profit.

post #119 of 137

Every time we talk about MOD vs. pressed discs, we end up using Warner Archive as a the one to complain.  I would be very happy if the discs were pressed from Warner's's and I know that there have been problems with the Archive program from day one.  But compared to what MGM has done, the Warner Archive is a blessing.  I have about 100 archive titles and have not had one problem with any freezing or skipping.  All the films are OAR and anamorphic.  MGM just does not care.  I have gone through three The Best Man discs and still do not have one that works.  Thank goodness Amazon replaced and then credited those.  I can not stand non-anamorphic releases, but what are you going to do when Cold Turkey come out.

 

I am as happy as I am going to be with Warner's, but MGM needs to take page from the Warner playbook on MOD's.  They just cannot get it right.  MOD programs are going to be for the future, if not MOD discs sent to you, then a digital download for you to burn to a DVD-r.  Mass pressed discs are a thing of the past.

post #120 of 137

In a statement:

 

“MGM said today its lenders agreed to extend the forbearance period and therefore will not seek remedies in connection with the nonpayment of interest and principal due on the company’s bank debt, including the revolving credit facility, until July 14, 2010. The lenders took this action in support of the Company’s ongoing efforts to evaluate long-term strategic alternatives to maximize value for its stakeholders. MGM appreciates the continued support of its lender group for the process it is undertaking.”
 

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