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Fox is still releasing a lot of classic in Spain, never released in USA

post #1 of 385
11/5/09 at 6:29pm
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This discussion started in the INFERNO thread, but since it became larger than that topic itself, I decided to create a specific thread for that.

Livius found out that a lot of titles were recently released by Fox in Spain, as part of its Cinema Classic Collection. I was so excited by the news that went to a dvd site to see if there were more titles released and was very surprised. Not only found out great titles, but also noticed that Fox still very engaged with classic dvd releases in Spain, since it slated a very good selection to be released in November.

Here are the titles released this year:

 

- China Girl (Gene Tierney, George Montgomery)
- Untamed (Tyrone Power, Susan Hayward)
- Woman's World (June Allyson, Clifton Webb, Lauren Bacal)

- Kangaroo (Maureen O'Hara, Peter Lawford).
- The Story of Alexander Graham Bell (Don Ameche, Loretta Young, Henry Fonda)
- The Rains of Ranchipur (Lana Turner, Richard Burton)
- Home in Indiana (Walter Brennan, Jeanne Crain, June Haver) Wowwwwwwwwww
- Boy on a Dolphin (Alan Ladd, Clifton Webb. Sophia Loren)
- Iron Curtain (Dana Andrews, Gene Tierney)
- The Raid
 - Powder River
- Two Flags West
- One Foot in Hell
- Way of a Gaucho
- Down to the Sea in Ships 
- Inferno

And on 11/18, Fox will release (there):
-  Forever Amber (Linda Darnell)
- The Foxes of Harrow (Maureen O'Hara, Rex Harrison) 
- City of Bad Men (Jeanne Crain, Dale Robertson)

- The Walls of Jericho (Cornel Wilde, Linda Darnell, Anne Baxter, Kirk Douglas)

 

Wonderful titles that I never though would make their way into dvd. UI have to find a way to get them all! Hope Fox won't stop its efforts there.
 

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post #2 of 385
11/5/09 at 8:40pm
A  bunch of them are here for 14 - 15 Euros:
http://www.dvdgo.com/busquedas/resultados?orden=6&fbuscar=fox%20classics&totalres=75&in=0&xxx=false&ori=null&page=2

Thanks for passing this on. This just demonstrates to me that the Fox restoration department is completely disconnected from the Fox home video department.
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post #3 of 385
11/6/09 at 4:52am
DON'T use DVDGo. Ever since they changed management the service has gone down the toilet, the sSpanish DVD forums are full of endless complaints about them.

In any case, their ordering system has been broken for months, when you try and complete the order payment section you get get a "sorry this page is broken" link. Moreover, it appears that their payments page is not secure. I also noted that when I tried it some time ago, their system retained my card details even though I told it not to, and surprise surprise, their account management section also thows up error pages when you try to remove your card details.
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post #4 of 385
11/6/09 at 2:00pm
Thanks for that, Richard - I read your post just in time.
Are there other reliable online sellers in Spain?
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post #5 of 385
11/6/09 at 2:56pm
You can always try the Spanish FNAC. My experiences with them have been good, though I send them to addresses in Portugal which makes it all much easier.
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post #6 of 385
11/6/09 at 3:32pm
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Originally Posted by Mike*HTF View Post
Are there other reliable online sellers in Spain?
 


I've always found Starscafe.com to be excellent. Fnac are fine too but their shiping rates tend to be higher.
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post #7 of 385
11/6/09 at 3:37pm
You could try FNAC.ES which are a sort of Spanish equivalent of HMV from what I can make out. They don;t carry every DVD released in Spain (they didn;t have some of the horror stuff from the Spanish L'Atelier13 for example), but should carry the Fox stuff. They do ship overseas but their site only operates in Spanish. BabelFish is your friend.

There is also a store called StarsCafe.com and they do have a full English option, there repertoire of titles was quite small when I looked at them but I think they were quite new. I did a quick search and they do seem to stock the Fox titles (or the couple I picked at random to look for anyway!). They certainly ship outside Spain, it;s right on their front page!

Lastly if you get truly stuck there's a small outfit called MoviesDistribucion who seem to have every title there is, but I can't say I particularly recommend them. The way they do shipping costs for overseas customers is very weird indeed and tends to be very expensive. Again, they are Spanish only.
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post #8 of 385
11/27/09 at 10:06pm
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And Fox continues to release classics in Spain.

For December (the 2nd) we will have:

- Holy Matrimony (1943): Monty Woolley, Gracie Fields, Laird Cregar;
- Pony Soldier (1952): Tyrone Power, Cameron Mitchell;

- The Roots of Heaven (1958): Errol Flynn, Juliette Greco, Orson Welles;

- The Gift of Love (1958): Lauren Bacall, Robert Stack

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post #9 of 385
11/28/09 at 12:06am
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Originally Posted by RafaelPires View Post

For December (the 2nd) we will have:

- Pony Soldier (1952): Tyrone Power, Cameron Mitchell;

- The Roots of Heaven (1958): Errol Flynn, Juliette Greco, Orson Welles;


Yes!!! I'd more or less given up hope of ever getting those. Now if they could get around to releasing The Left Hand of God...
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post #10 of 385
11/28/09 at 8:40am
Starscafe.com currently have a buy 1 get 1 free deal on some of those Fox titles. I just picked up Powder River and The Raid for 15.58 Euro delivered.
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post #11 of 385
11/28/09 at 9:18am
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Livius, thanks for the tip!
Just bought the two titles you mentioned. I hope more deals like that will be extended to the remaining Fox classic titles.
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post #12 of 385
11/28/09 at 3:01pm
 I picked up in Barcelona today, FOREVER AMBER....Incredibly it has been weirdly cropped to automatically be shown on the monitor at 16X9...what a tragedy to one of my favorites.   I also bought GIFT OF LOVE which is 2.35 but not 16X9.
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post #13 of 385
11/28/09 at 3:35pm
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Ken,
Let me see if I get that right about Forever Amber. Did Fox cut the top and bottom of the picture to make it appear as widescreen?? Is that what happend?? If so I can believe they are acting like butchers, I will be very frustrated if I find out this is the truth.

And for the Gift of Love they did are presetning it as a fullscreen released instead of widescreen?
Edited by RafaelPires - 11/28/09 at 3:59pm
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post #14 of 385
11/29/09 at 3:36pm
 Yes , they have cut the top and the bottom of the picture to make it appear as 16X9.  So sad!!!
GIFT OF LOVE  is widescreen but is not anamorphic.
If you need anything I will be back in Barcelona on the 11th of DEC.
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post #15 of 385
11/29/09 at 4:32pm
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Ken, this is so strange, since Forever Amber is listed (in the back of its case) as fulscreen. So I will not be buying this.
Also Gift of love is listed as fullscreen, and you say it is widescreen, even though not anamorphic. What's the matter with Fox?

A friend of mine will be in Barcelona by the end of the month and will buy me some of those movies. Now with that information I will have to cut Amber from my list.
I plan to buy the following titles:
- China Girl
- Home in Indiana
- The Story of Alexander Graham Bell
- The Iron Curtain
- Walls of Jericho
- Foxes of Harrow
- My Gal Sal (that I forgot to mention, will also be released in December)

I have to say that I am afraid that some of those titles may present the same problem as Amber, but I will have to risk.

My listed also contained Untamed and Women's World, but I declined those when found out they were fullscreen and not widescreen.

Do you plan to return the film? You have the right to. 
I also found out that Destination Gobi will be released by Fox next week.

And since you will be in Barcelona, you might get interested in purchasing To Each his Own and Hold Back the Dawn that will be released there as part of the Universal Cinema Classics.
 

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post #16 of 385
11/30/09 at 5:40am
You have to be careful. I bought the Fox western "Rio Conchos", nice transfer, but it zooms in from 2:35 to 16:9 after the titles. I also got the Warner title "Teahouse Of The August Moon", just awful, non-anamorphic with a smeary picture (I understand the R1 disc was very good). You can safely buy "The Egyptian" which looks & sounds terrific. I was going to buy "Gold Diggers Of 1933" (the R1 is now very expensive), but after Teahouse, I'd like to read a review first.
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post #17 of 385
11/30/09 at 7:04am
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I agree with you Billy, that's why I chose titles that are all meant to be shown in fullscreen. And since Gold Diggers is in the same league, I think the probability of it being in a wrong aspect ratio is very low.
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post #18 of 385
11/30/09 at 2:16pm
"Inferno" and "Way of a Gaucho" are both fullscreen on these discs, both of them being technicolor pictures from the early 1950s, so 'Forever Amber" may be just a separate case, (as disappointing as it is).
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post #19 of 385
11/30/09 at 2:31pm
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Originally Posted by RafaelPires View Post


And since you will be in Barcelona, you might get interested in purchasing To Each his Own and Hold Back the Dawn that will be released there as part of the Universal Cinema Classics.
 


Excellent news!
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post #20 of 385
11/30/09 at 4:46pm
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Joe, do you have those discs (Inferno and Way of a Gaucho)? If so, how are the transfers? Are they restored? Any feedback related to this collection is very welcome.
Thank you!
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post #21 of 385
11/30/09 at 7:57pm
 I did not know about the Universal films. Are they out yet?  What are the titles in Spanish?   I did pick up 40 Pounds of Trouble and Blindfold.  Both anamorphic.
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post #22 of 385
11/30/09 at 7:57pm
 I did not know about the Universal films. Are they out yet?  What are the titles in Spanish?   I did pick up 40 Pounds of Trouble and Blindfold.  Both anamorphic.
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post #23 of 385
11/30/09 at 8:06pm
 Untamed and Women's World are both 2.35.  They are not anamorphic.
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post #24 of 385
12/1/09 at 5:36am
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Ken, what about the transfer of those titles? They restored the films?

About the Universal titles, they will both be released on December 3rd.

Hold Back the Dawn is "Si No Amaneciera" - http://www.moviesdistribucion.com/dvd/ficha/?Si+no+Amaneciera

 

To Each His Own is "Vida íntima de Julia Norris" - http://www.moviesdistribucion.com/dvd/ficha/?Vida+%CDntima+de+Julia+Norris+%28V%2EO%2ES%2E%29

Universal is also releasing Douglas Sirk's There's Always Tomorrow, with Stanwyck, MacMurray and Joan Bennett.

I wonder how all those transfers are, because I intend to get them all;

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post #25 of 385
12/1/09 at 6:23am
Hi Ken,  Yes I'm curious to learn your opinion of the prints transfered too. Does anyone know if ONE FOOT IN HELL is in full CinemaScope all the way through?  By the way, does anyone know any details about the MGM dvd-r releases coming out soon like THE GROUP and DREAMCHILD?  Are they 16:9 Wide Screen? Thanks, Mike
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post #26 of 385
12/1/09 at 7:19am
 Rafael   The transfers of the films look good.  Too bad they are not anamorphic. ( Rains of Ranchipur ( anamorphic looks excellent!)
 A few months ago I bought a Douglas Sirk boxset in Zurich.  ALL I DESIRE / THERE'S ALWAYS TOMORROW and INTERLUDE.  The packaging and transfers of the films are very good.  CAPTAIN LIGHTFOOT / TARNISHED ANGELS and .BATTLE HYMN.    From a company called Crest I bought  BY LOVE POSSESSED  1.85 and anamorphic and THE BEST MAN and THE YOUNG SAVAGES 1.85 not anamorphic. ANDROCLES AND THE LION fullscreen.    

Mike I am not sure about One Foot In Hell but I can check for you.
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post #27 of 385
12/1/09 at 7:35am
 Also I purchased TORA TORA TORA in Blue Ray.  It contains both the American version as well as the extended Japanese version.
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post #28 of 385
12/1/09 at 12:12pm
Two friends of mine  just got their copies of the Spanish  Forever amber and both of theirs are full screen
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post #29 of 385
12/1/09 at 12:49pm
 It's fullscreen but cropped.  Unless they made a mistake on 1 disc.
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post #30 of 385
12/2/09 at 2:55pm

Ken, I have checked with bothof my sources, one of whom has written extensively about Forever amber in several publications.

ONe has the Fox VHS cassette and an amc broadcast and the other has also the Fox vidcasette.

They say the picture area is the same on vids and the new Spanish dvd. 
Something must be wrong with your equipment.

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