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post #31 of 37
1/12/10 at 9:26pm
Yes, an effort to piss off so many fans, that's what it was. Have fun being an apologist for the company.
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post #32 of 37
1/12/10 at 11:35pm
vnisanian, if that's what you really believe -- if you really think the studio decided to spend time and effort to piss of potential buyers of their products -- well then, I have nothing left to say.  Sometimes, I think it's valuable to understand why things happen, rather than get angry about something you've just made up.  
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post #33 of 37
1/13/10 at 8:26am
Sounds like vnisanian is busy, once again ...

Despite what he wants to believe, studios don't do anything to tick off fans of the show. If they did, they would definitely upset their loyal customer base who purchases their releases.

The biggest thing happens to be music rights and music replacement and that's because studios are so greedy and don't want to pay the music artists for their music that's in some particular way that the studios think that since they are giving the original music free advertising, via their DVD's, that they should not have to pay. Unfortunately, that's not the way it works.

It would be the same as if a music artist decided to use footage from a television show that their music appeared on and decided to release it as a music video without paying a license. It's just a double standard that the studios use thinking that nobody will notice. Unfortunately, music artists are quite aware (since the majority of the music involved includes classic rock from the 60's, 70's and 80's) that fans of television shows get irritated when the original music is replaced.

The studios want to be able to license the music for a song and the music artists are not allowing them to get away with it.
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post #34 of 37
1/13/10 at 9:51am
The only way I will give studios a pass when it comes to music clearances is if they ask about the price, and if the right holders simply say "Not at any price", then I will understand.
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post #35 of 37
1/13/10 at 1:48pm
Sounds to me like the studios are there only for your own gratification. From Wikipedia on Music Licensing:

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Licensing issues are often encountered when television shows or films using copyrighted music are released on Digital Versatile Disc (DVD) format.

When a song is cleared for usage on a TV show, the clearance typically only applies to television airings of the show in question. Thus, when the show is released on DVD, the rights to the song must be renegotiated in order for the song in question to be included on the DVD.

If the process of clearing the rights to the song is prohibitively expensive for the company releasing the show on DVD, or if clearance is refused by the copyright holders of the original song, the affected song is usually replaced with a similar (sound-alike) one, or the footage containing the copyrighted song is edited out. In a few cases, television shows which use so much copyrighted music such that the cost of licensing is high are withheld from release on DVD (one notable example is The Wonder Years). Home video release of a number of television series and films have also been delayed and occasionally canceled for this reason (for example, Sony Entertainment canceled the planned October 2007 DVD release of Dark Skies for this reason

If you have an issue with Sony replacing music, I would suggest sending emails or letters to them. As long as Sony and other studios refuse to pay music artists for their music for what those artists consider fair value against the number of DVD sets that their music will appear on, then it's simply the fault of these studios for taking the cheap way out and refusing to pay those music artists for their music.

Personally? I do think that music licensing is out of control. However, we're talking about music that was created way back in the 80's which is widely recognized by music fans all over the world and they are simply asking for what they consider fair market value. Until studios realize that music substitutions are detrimental to their sales, then it simply won't change.

This particular problem will continue to plague the entertainment industry until the end of time and as long as studios can save money on producing these sets, they will continue to do so.

The problem is that you're not ever going to convince consumers to not buy these DVD season set releases and as long as they continue to sell, it won't affect the way these studios do business.
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post #36 of 37
1/17/10 at 1:49pm
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I just watched the 2 parter (Titled The Improbable Dream) that aired on Hallmark a few days ago where Rebecca is having dreams about Sam, and then Robin appears just as Rebecca is about to give into Sam.

In it, Sam turns a radio on to romance Rebecca after she allows him into her apartment in her dream, and You've Lost that Lovin' Feelin' is then played on the radio.

In this same syndication package Hallmark has, Unchained Melody is played in a different episode (Unsure of the name, but it's a few episodes before The Improbable Dream) where Sam first finds out that Rebecca's favorite song is You've Lost that Lovin' Feelin'.

I don't know what the situation is on the DVD's from CBS/Paramount, but I'm all but convinced a mistake was made during the original production of this episode and Unchained Melody was mistakingly played despite You've Lost that Lovin' Feelin' being mentioned specifically by name in the episode as Rebecca's favorite.

I see no reason to think this episode has edited with after the fact with Unchained Melody substituted into it when You've Lost that Lovin' Feelin still remains present in another episode in this syndication package.
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post #37 of 37
2/26/10 at 2:46pm
I definitely understand music substitutions, but why is "One For The Road" butchered? That's inexcusable.
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