24: Season Eight - Page 4

I don't think it's been quite that long. I think it was mentioned that it was 2 years she spent undercover. Still, unless I missed something, She was undercover during her days with the FBI and she was terminated from the FBI very shortly after Day 7 based on her "handing" of the interrogation of the head bad guy from that day. After that, it was mentioned that she worked for some private security firm.

If someone can contradict that, let me know.

Strangely enough, I was just reading something about this on ESPN (most of the way down the page if you want to look at the original link):

Yuh know, 24 Fans by now are used to getting a bit
bored halfway into the season as the plot stretches
out to the finale.

Are we supposed to be bored within the first few 

hours already?

 

My God, this already turning out to be the worst
season of 24 to date.  I have no interest in any of
these characters and the storyline is just...well...bland.

I think part of the problem is that this show has
just gone on for too many years.  All the cliches
of past seasons are in place...

1. There is someone betraying the President or
CTU.  They make you believe it is one person
and suddenly...aha...we have been duped, it's
someone else.

2. While 24 is notorious for killing off major
characters you can always tell when one of  
them.... 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show) Sorry to be so unhappy so early in the season,
but does anyone really think this show is living
up to the hype it once had?

 

58 is the new 42!  I'd thought Jack was around 35 when season 1 started, he seemed to blow through his tours quicker than his contemporaries, and his "logic" reasoning skills have been written such that he quickly puts together the logistics of sinister forces and puts into play the requires counter-play (PROTOCOLS!!!!) Heh.

Jack Bauer is sort of like the John Clark character in the Tom Clancy novels, where Clark has been in many skirmishes through the decades, but it feels like it's only in the early 50's when he is more like in his late 60's, but can still kick some butt.

I agree quite a bit.  I think I said this already, but even the horrible S6 had that first few hours that drew me in.  This hasn't had anything of the sort yet.

And I agree, we've seen pretty much anything that they could do.  I really think out of nowhere, someone should just kill Jack, to shake things up entirely (though I've been saying that for a while).  The only problem with that is, the characters we'd have to rely on now are nowhere near as strong as they once were.  Curtis, in my mind, would've once been perfect to carry the show if that happened, but I'm not sure that the Renee character could handle it.

Count me in the minority, then, because I'd much rather see Renee carry on the series than Curtis. Curtis was a Boy Scout. Jack is a Boy Scout who probably saw someone drop litter in the forest, walked up to him and yelled "PICK UP THAT TRASH!!" Then stepped on his pinky toe until he cried out in pain, regretted his transgression, picked up the trash, and hiked it for miles to the nearest trash can.

Renee isn't exactly the same, but she's close enough. She'd just stare at the person with eyes that are obviously calculating maximum bodily damage until the perp nerviously picks up the trash and walks away.

Other difficulties aside, maybe Starbuck didn't shoot her tormenter and lie about it because she isn't a murderer.

I, for one, haven't found the show compelling in years.  That said, thanks to Tivo, I still watch (I can just FF thru the stuff I don't care about).

I do think this season is showing some of the best and worst that 24 has to offer:

The best - Jack not in control and following a clearly out of control Renee is a very fun and fresh idea.  She's having fun with it and it's definitely new to watch Jack in this sort of a situation.  Certainly, the best this season has to offer us so far...and, one of the better ideas I've seen in the series.

The worst - you get Starbuck on your show, she looks as hot as ever, she's as badass as ever...and, she's wasted in what I consider the lamest sub-plot the series has ever seen.  It was bad enough when Samwise had the junkie sister...but, this takes it to a whole new lame level.  Sorry for the 'other show' references - but, as far as I'm concerned these characters don't deserve name recognition from these terrible side plots.  Just kill Starbuck and move on.  I FF every time I see her face.  I should probably drink too.

I'm actually contemplating stopping right here and waiting for the DVD's.

I agree that this season seems to have no center or emotional forward momentum, as if it's just running in place.

Maybe it's because I'm not used to waiting a week for the next hour and the momentum gets lost for me, I much prefer being able to keep going and keeping the suspense intact rather than having a whole week to cool off.

I'm really not liking that.

As for how much time has passed between day 7 & 8 it has been at least two years, Kim's daughter was a newborn baby on day 7 and she's at least two now.

Who is Starbuck?

Where do you guys know her from?
 

There was this really hot blonde on
Battlestar Galactica.  I have yet to
see the new series (waiting for the BD
price to drop) but I remember the
pictures of her circulating on the net.

Is this the same actress?

I hope I am not too far out here with
trying to connect what you are saying.

 

I really don't mind this season getting off to a relatively slow/low key start.  I think part of the problem with past seasons of 24 is that they amped up the action too fast too soon.  In order to keep building suspense, the intensity and urgency of the situation has to keep rising, but things just balloon out of control and that leads to a letdown in the final hours of the day.

I'd rather see "Plan A" stay in the works for a good 6-8 hours (or more) before a crisis forces a shift to "Plan B" for the next 5-6 hours, etc. than have the bad guys get all the way to "Plan E" before the day is even half over.

So far, I'm enjoying the relative simplicity of the main plot, and like how things are moving along steadily but deliberately.  The side plots, now that's another story...

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind a slow buildup, and I don't even mean that something crazy has to happen like the S6 nuke... but something still has to pull me in, and they don't have that this year.  Compare that to S1, where 10 minutes into watching the first episode on DVD, I knew I'd be watching the whole season.  And in that, it wasn't like anything crazy happening, but there was enough of a hook.  I'm not feeling any hook this year.

Yeah, it hasn’t been the most exciting first few hours. But I’ll stick with it to see where it goes. I still think my favorite is Season One where it started out with a relatively minor threat (compared to later seasons) that turned into a personal vengeance story against Jack and Palmer. There were a few dull episodes here and there (the infamous amnesia subplot.) but it really built up tension. And this might seem like a minor thing, but it was the only season that started at night and ended at night. It seemed to me that it made the climax and finale darker

I didn’t see Galactica, but am I the only one who doesn’t think Sackhoff is that hot on 24. To me, she kind of has a masculine looking face.

Thanks for the correcting me about the timeline.  Makes me wonder about Renee and her undercover work now, though.



Not the only one - she's pretty enough, but the closest she got to hot, for me, was her scene in The Big Bang Theory in the tub with Wolowitz.  She's like Julia Roberts - sometimes she can look very pretty and other times she can look very unappealing.

If Taylor was elected (I don't remember), the inauguration would take place in an odd year like 2013 or 2017.

It's not just you.

I hope I don't get flamed for this one (but I know better)...but if Lindsay Lohan would only take care of herself, I could see her growing into an actress as beautiful as Annie Wersching.  Every time I see the character of Renee, I think of Lohan with those cheekbones, freckles and pretty eyes. 

Count me as one of those who think--as of now--that this season is dragging a bit.  Having Jack sitting in a car for an entire episode while Renee is out front dealing with the Russians seems diametrically opposed to what 24 is all about...but they could simply be setting the stage for something mighty interesting which could be lurking right around the corner. 

The whole Dana/Jenny sub-plot brings back not so fond memories of a cougar.

I never got the hatred over that, I mean Kim was in the wilderness and yes there are Cougars there. I actually found it more hard to swallow that Johnny Drama (got himself a part on 24, sweet) came to her rescue and that he lived in a cabin nearby.

Agree with how bad this season is.  Wow.  I seriously considered stopping in the middle of the episode and just bailing completely.  I've said for a while that the show hasn't been great in years but it at least kept me entertained.  This episode was just brutal.  And those scenes where Renee was trying to maintain her cover were gut-wrenching.  It was like a poorly written sitcom the way she was repeating the questions being asked.  And the woe is me speech to convince the Russian she is for real...HUH?  And Jack's reaction to that whole debacle...I'm sensing even the actors realize the show has fallen off a cliff.

Kill Jack...kill Chloe...bring back the cougar...bring back David Palmer...I'll take anything at this point!

Katee Sackhoff is a blonde and she was on BSG.  But her character was almost always the militaristic ball-buster (tho' occasionally psycho).  The "hot blonde" that Ron was referrng to was probably Tricia Helfer (#6).

That's what I was thinking too. I'm pretty sure he was referring to her and not Katie Sackhoff(Starbuck).

As for this season, I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who is thoroughly disinterested through the first 5 episodes. I think it's the first time in 8 seasons of the show that I haven't been sucked in right from the start. As someone pointed out earlier, even season 6, the worst season in the show's history by far, started out with a bang. Last season was absolutely epic for the first 13 or 14 episodes before it tailed off. This year, however, has been a complete bore and I don't see the storylines getting any more exciting anytime soon. I'll stick with the show out of allegiance as it's one of my top 5 favorite TV shows of all time, but I fear that they're running out of ideas and it might finally be time for it to end.

Double post

Double post.

I find it very interesting that you're at least the third or fourth person who has brought up the explosive beginning to season 6 as a comparison.

When you consider how season 6 is pretty much universally agreed to be the nadir of the series, I would think anything that stands in contrast to it would be considered a good thing.

I for one, would much rather have the series END at the peak of excitement than reach it's best climax early, then have to sit through several episodes of writers frantically finding ways to draw things out that strain credibility (even by "24" standards, which are extreme to begin with) or to relentlessly "one-up" themselves to the point of absurdity.

Regardless, there's still 19 hours to go, so anything can (and probably will) happen.

We gotta have hope...