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post #61 of 655
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The black guy who is in charte of CTU NYC... he has some strange thing going on with his shoulders/neck/head. It's like he is almost a hunchback.


Don't like this character at all.  The actor has a horrible posture/neck
problem and as someone mentioned previously, it looks like he is
preoccupied.  Very irritating performance. Not the best choice for the part.
 
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Horace on Lost, is playing the head Russian baddie.


Thank You.  Was wondering where it was I saw him before.


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President Hassan's hair was looking good, even after getting bombed and rolled.


That huge bundle on his head is a distraction and something tells me they are going to give 
that hair its own spin-off show.  :)


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It's nice to see Chloe struggling with new technology.


Yes, but must she wear that puss on her face all the time?  At first it was kind
of cute, but man, she has this constant look of constipation on her face.  She
really needs to get those sexual frustrations out of her system. :)

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I'm hooked for now...the Starbuck side story is what's bugging the hell out of me so far.


For me, this is the least interesting aspect of the story.  For the
moment it looks nothing more than an annoying, destructive old
boyfriend story -- as if the writers threw it in for the sake of it.  I
hope it turns into something more interesting. 

On the plus side, she is one of the most attractive women I have
seen on the show.  Beautiful face and smile.

So far, I would rate the first 4 episodes as being "okay."  From 
past experience no matter how dull this show can get, it still
manages to hold your interest.

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post #62 of 655
 Some of my nits...

Jack has zero reason to stay, stop with all this "need to get to L.A." stuff.  Nothing is keeping him there.
Why is Chloe trying to make Jack feel guilty?  She knows what the guy has done for his country.
There are hundreds of paid professionals in "CTU" and she feels only Jack knows?
I would never want the role of CTU director, it is a thankless one, you are made to look like an idiot.
Bill was the only good one.
The guy, in 4 hours has been blackmailed, what twice?
The mannish girl, with the crazy ex boyfriend?  She gives him the keys to her place?  Without asking/demanding he tells her how she found him?
What is the risk if he exposes her?  She must have killed someone.  They better explain it better later on.
post #63 of 655
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Originally Posted by Doug Schiller View Post

 Some of my nits...

Jack has zero reason to stay, stop with all this "need to get to L.A." stuff.  Nothing is keeping him there.

 


Nothing is keeping him there except that the last seven years of the show have firmly established that Jack never walks away when he thinks he can help, he's loyal to his friends and he'll always try to protect his country and its people. It would be a total violation of Jack's character if he didn't stay and help.
post #64 of 655
^^Right, I thought that the reason for Jack staying was pretty evident, he was all set to split until Renee showed up and Jack just got that bad feeling that she wasn't up to it and he had to see it through.

Hassan has some serious Elvis hair going on lol.

I'm liking Freddie Prinz Jr., too, his daring-do to save the King, er, um I mean Hassan was selfless and heroic. My hate for Doug Hutchinson still lingers from The Green Mile, I'll never forgive him for stepping on Mr. Jingles so seeing Jack wax his ass was therapeutic hehe.

As for Hastings, I don't know what he's trying to do with this character but only Denzel can pull off that level of swagger.
Edited by Inspector Hammer! - 1/19/10 at 7:24am
post #65 of 655
I thought it was really cheesy how Jack got all sensitive about Renee not being ready to go back in. As if he was even around her recently to know.  Surely the writers could have come up with something better to keep Jack from going to LA.

The second 2 hours were better than the first 2, but overall a very weak start.  But yeah...I'll still be watching...

Edited by ScottH - 1/19/10 at 8:01am
post #66 of 655
What can I say, once those Bauer-senses start tinglin'...
post #67 of 655
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Originally Posted by mike caronia View Post

I hope they wrap up Starbuck's ex storyline quickly and get her out there kicking some ass.
I was surprised he wasn't Patriot-acted already.
post #68 of 655
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I find it laughable that Jack took a beating just an hour ago, and his face is fresh as daisies in this second hour tonight.  Maybe that cop can't punch worth a damn.

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Is Sark undercover in this Russian crime family?  Hah.

Jack cleaned up quite quickly there.  The discrepancy really stood out for a few seconds there. 

I thought David Anders was looking quite young here (though he is only 28).  I hope they have him in a meaty role here.
post #69 of 655
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I thought David Anders was looking quite young here (though he is only 28).

 


How crazy is it that he was about 20 or 21 when he was in Alias?
post #70 of 655
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Originally Posted by Doug Schiller View Post

 Some of my nits...

The mannish girl, with the crazy ex boyfriend?

Oh no you didn't! :)
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Originally Posted by Doug Schiller View Post

 Some of my nits...

The mannish girl, with the crazy ex boyfriend?
 

I agree.  I don't get the attraction at all, but to each his own.  I think it's the manly neck.
post #72 of 655
Internally, just as the 4th hour ended, as Renee said something like "I'm just getting started." and walks off-screen, in my mind, Jack Bauer should have had a thought balloon to go with his "oh crap!" face, and the thought balloon would have said, "Hubba ... Hubba..."
post #73 of 655
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Nothing is keeping him there except that the last seven years of the show have firmly established that Jack never walks away when he thinks he can help, he's loyal to his friends and he'll always try to protect his country and its people. It would be a total violation of Jack's character if he didn't stay and help.

Wow, I have watched every season and got an entirely different spin on the Jack character.
Usually you have to drag him back kicking and screaming and only relents when one of his loved ones are in trouble.
post #74 of 655
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Wow, I have watched every season and got an entirely different spin on the Jack character.
Usually you have to drag him back kicking and screaming and only relents when one of his loved ones are in trouble.

Oh no, one of Jack's strongest traits is his sense of duty and his dedication to making sure something is done right when he suspects that it's being put in less than capable hands, especially when national security is at stake.

Jack will go to the mat to get the job done.
post #75 of 655
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Oh no, one of Jack's strongest traits is his sense of duty and his dedication to making sure something is done right when he suspects that it's being put in less than capable hands, especially when national security is at stake.

Jack will go to the mat to get the job done.
 

That's my take on his character as well. The only time he was technically dragged back into the mix was the start of season 2 when Palmer called him to come back and help.
post #76 of 655
Rack is back... and she's more whack than Jack!

3&4 a lot better than 1&2 imo.  The biggest thing that bugs me with 24 is still that they can't use a 24hr clock...

I think I will fast-forward the annoying Starbuck's-ex scenes from here on in.

Why does the bro go to all the trouble of trying to assassinate the President?  Just expose the affair with the reporter.  Done.

Did the assassin run out of rocket launchers?  He didn't need to kill the cop and his wife - he already knew the route the convoy would take.  Just hide out in a nearby abandoned building (there seem to be a lot of them on 24).  He could have detonated the bomb from there too.

...But this is 24, I guess.  I need to get back in the hang of suspending logic.
post #77 of 655
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3&4 a lot better than 1&2 imo. 
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I half agree.  Hour three was my favorite of the bunch, but I thought hour four was kinda lame.  The way they wrote Renee into the plot seemed kind of awkward and lazy.  All will be forgiven if they use the character well in subsequent eps., though.

Regards,
post #78 of 655
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Rack is back... and she's more whack than Jack!

 

That's almost exactly what I said to my wife when they brought back Renee... Rack and Jack together again!

Count me in as one who actually likes how they got Jack involved again.  I do think his sense of duty is what drives him, much like how Renee said she didn't want anything in return for going back undercover with the Russians.

However, my one biggest nit with the series, Jack in particular that has bothered me for years is his insistence on referring to the "Nuke-you-ler" threat....

GAAHHHHHH!!!!  He's still doing it!

Dammit!
post #79 of 655
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However, my one biggest nit with the series, Jack in particular that has bothered me for years is his insistence on referring to the "Nuke-you-ler" threat....

 


I think Sutherland grew up in Canada and I've heard other Canadian actors say "nuke-you-ler" before so I wonder if it's more of an accent type of thing* rather than him saying the word incorrectly for the better part of a decade.

* No offense to our neighbors to the north that can actually pronounce the word.
post #80 of 655
I was out of town and so watched all 4 in a row earlier tonight, and honestly, my reaction was 'eh'.  I was just very unimpressed so far.

Nothing happened to suck me in so far, something that they're usually good at when they do these 4 hour premier event type things.  Even the absolutely horrible S6 had a great 4 hours.

I'll of course keep watching though.  
post #81 of 655
First off, I find it funny how some performers are still called by their character's name from previous shows here, and the threads for FlashForward, V, and Heroes.

Also, I find it better to follow this show on FOX than on DVD, because it is just very difficult not to be exposed to spoilers, especially when listening to the radio, or when reading TV Guide magazine (which I like to read).

I thought it was a very good start to the season, but now, I wonder about the momentum of the show. I also find the Dana/Jenny storyline dragging the show down.

Can we say Renee has a death wish?
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First off, I find it funny how some performers are still called by their character's name from previous shows here, and the threads for FlashForward, V, and Heroes.

Yeah...very annoying...
post #83 of 655
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Yeah...very annoying...

I actively tried to move people away from that habit in the FF and V threads.  Eventually people started using the propper names.

post #84 of 655
Youdaman Josh!
post #85 of 655
You know someone is a nutcase when Jack Bauer starts to look like the sensible one lol.

Renee is giving off some seriously dangerous vibes, like she's a live wire that could snap out and zap your ass at any second.

At least that one dude doesn't have to worry about his hand hurting him now.
post #86 of 655
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I'm hooked for now...the Starbuck side story is what's bugging the hell out of me so far.


For me, this is the least interesting aspect of the story.  For the
moment it looks nothing more than an annoying, destructive old
boyfriend story -- as if the writers threw it in for the sake of it.  I
hope it turns into something more interesting. 

I would seem likely now that this subplot is going to lead to what inevitably compromises CTU. Like, She'll end up having to pull a Nedry from Jurassic Park like scenario. I guess they're trying something different as opposed to just having another mole in CTU.

Also, I'm really not believing that the same Renee who at the beginning of last season was so horrified by Jack's tactics and what she was witnessing that day is the same person who had this whole past with the Russians. Surely in her time undercover she must have seen some f'ed up shit.
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Dana/Jenny seems pretty assertive at work.  I just don't understand why she doesn't just shoot the old flame, claim he broke into her apartment and make it seem like self defense?  He's an ex-con who served time for Murder and she is a respected CTU analyst.  Its really contradictory to see her assertive at work and kowtow at home.  How the heck did he find her anyway?

post #88 of 655
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Originally Posted by Adam Gregorich View Post

Dana/Jenny seems pretty assertive at work.  I just don't understand why she doesn't just shoot the old flame, claim he broke into her apartment and make it seem like self defense?  He's an ex-con who served time for Murder and she is a respected CTU analyst.  Its really contradictory to see her assertive at work and kowtow at home.  How the heck did he find her anyway?



Based on the commercial for this episode, I thought she was going to shoot him. However if she shot him and claimed self-defense, her secret identity might be found out. Plus, she was seen with him outside of CTU, he's been calling her all day and there was no break-in. A little bit of an investigation and her old life would be found out.
post #89 of 655
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Based on the commercial for this episode, I thought she was going to shoot him. However if she shot him and claimed self-defense, her secret identity might be found out. Plus, she was seen with him outside of CTU, he's been calling her all day and there was no break-in. A little bit of an investigation and her old life would be found out.

Count me in as another who's little interested in this whole side plot.  Yeah, we figure she's going to be coerced into doing something illegal from within CTU, and there will be more "mole intrigue" as a result... <yawn>

Doesn't CTU HR conduct background checks on people?  Silly question I know, given events in past seasons, but come on.  Even if she's part of witness protection or something, she wouldn't be allowed to work in the government without everyone involved knowing about her situation...

Oh, and as a public service reminder, there are many folks who read this thread (and others) who avoid ANY knowledge of upcoming episodes (previews, commercials, etc.) before they air.  Travis was nice enough to wait until AFTER the episode before mentioning what was hinted at in the commercial.  PLEASE follow his lead and refrain from anything even remotely spoiler related (including the above mentioned stuff) until after the espisode in question airs.

Thanks all!
post #90 of 655
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Originally Posted by Adam Gregorich View Post

Dana/Jenny seems pretty assertive at work.  I just don't understand why she doesn't just shoot the old flame, claim he broke into her apartment and make it seem like self defense?  He's an ex-con who served time for Murder and she is a respected CTU analyst.  Its really contradictory to see her assertive at work and kowtow at home.  How the heck did he find her anyway?


All depends on the backstory, but since she said that they were involved when she was a minor, I'm sure it probably comes down to psychology - it's hard to overcome patterns developed in childhood, and it looks like an abusive one in their case. 

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I would seem likely now that this subplot is going to lead to what inevitably compromises CTU. Like, She'll end up having to pull a Nedry from Jurassic Park like scenario. I guess they're trying something different as opposed to just having another mole in CTU.

Also, I'm really not believing that the same Renee who at the beginning of last season was so horrified by Jack's tactics and what she was witnessing that day is the same person who had this whole past with the Russians. Surely in her time undercover she must have seen some f'ed up shit.

 

Didn't it mention something to the effect that it's at least 5 years since day 7?  (I think it was the time she spent undercover).  That's a lot of time, especially given the level of physical (and no doubt, mental) abuse she endured.  Not to mention the shattering of her belief system just in one day with Jack.

Has anyone calculated what year it would be in the 24 universe, if figuring all the time elapsed between days?  I didn't start watching until day 5, but it seems like at least a couple of years elapse between days.  That'd make it at least 2018 or so!
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