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Now this was a good episode in my opinion.....

That's exactly what I was thinking! 



And I was wondering just before the "facial recognition"..."where's that 'big twist' they were promising?"

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[I give up]
 

post #304 of 655
I Have three eps on the DVr and really no desire to finish,I think I've given up.
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I'm wondering what happened to the agent who tried to drive the car out of there? Did he die? Unless someone has a device to assist with heart regulation I don't think an EMP can kill someone can it?

I could be mistaken, but I think that generally a small charge is required for a EMP to go off.  Unless of course it's a nuclear based EMP like in GoldenEye, that is, then it's a large one. 

My question is, if the terrorists can get their hands on an EMP, why do they need the nuclear rods anyway?  

But oh right, this is 24, I can't question stuff like that otherwise my head will explode.  


post #306 of 655
Well, it took 12 hours but welcome to the only truly
worthwhile episode of the entire season.

...and you know what?  I'm diggin' the Dana subplot.
In fact, I think it's better than the main action in most
cases and I didn't originally think that way.

I was tense this week just trying to figure out how
Dana was going to get out of handing over the CTU
video surveillance to the parole officer.  Well, looks
like in the final moments of this week's show she got
her "out."


Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Looks like the blast *may* have affected CTU 
hard drives.



Sort of glad "24" may be ending this year.  It got
to the point that the only reason I was watching it
was because it was the popular show and other
people I worked with were watching it too which
led to a lot of water cooler conversation.  However,
everyone knows that the show has grown tired these
past three seasons (last great season was #5) and
basically the show just keeps rehashing old formulas.

Just be prepared that we may have reached a
temporary plateau here in episode excitement.
I hope I am wrong and that the season goes out
with a huge BANG! 

post #307 of 655

Did it bother anyone else that the EMP was apparantly on a timer that conveniently (even by 24 standards) reached zero about 30 seconds after arriving at CTU?

I am also impressed that this season has gotten this far before the first instance of "hey-we-really-screwed-up-the-bad-guys-plans-but-oh-wait-nevermind-all-that-chaos-was-part-of-their-plan-all-along".

Bravo, 24!

In all seriousness, I did enjoy the episode last night and hopefully things will continue to get better.

post #308 of 655
I have to try to get to these last three episodes, but I was tiring of the show. It needs to end, if they make a Feature Film that would be fine. As far as the final half of the season, that would'nt hold to the rest of the seasons, they usually have a high point around episode 12, then the folowing 12 slide in quality. I'm still peeved Fox is delaying the rest of the season of Lie To Me till June. I hope they ain't giving up on that show cause I actually like it.

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Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein View Post

Well, it took 12 hours but welcome to the only truly
worthwhile episode of the entire season.

...and you know what?  I'm diggin' the Dana subplot.
In fact, I think it's better than the main action in most
cases and I didn't originally think that way.

I was tense this week just trying to figure out how
Dana was going to get out of handing over the CTU
video surveillance to the parole officer.  Well, looks
like in the final moments of this week's show she got
her "out."


Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Looks like the blast *may* have affected CTU 
hard drives.



Sort of glad "24" may be ending this year.  It got
to the point that the only reason I was watching it
was because it was the popular show and other
people I worked with were watching it too which
led to a lot of water cooler conversation.  However,
everyone knows that the show has grown tired these
past three seasons (last great season was #5) and
basically the show just keeps rehashing old formulas.

Just be prepared that we may have reached a
temporary plateau here in episode excitement.
I hope I am wrong and that the season goes out
with a huge BANG! 



post #309 of 655
Thread Starter 
I figured out that Kayla had something bad in the car (so did Jack and the other characters so it's not like I was really ahead of them) but I thought it was going to be a bomb and just blow the crap out of the CTU and kill either Dana, Prady (the parole officer), Arlo or Hastings and a bunch of extras.



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Originally Posted by Jason Charlton View Post

Did it bother anyone else that the EMP was apparantly on a timer that conveniently (even by 24 standards) reached zero about 30 seconds after arriving at CTU?
 


Um, um, um... the terrorists had some type of tracking device on their car so they knew when to start the countdown clock on the EMP.
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I figured out that Kayla had something bad in the car (so did Jack and the other characters so it's not like I was really ahead of them) 

 


The episode preview gave away that CTU would be under attack. But I think the writers missed a real opportunity to finally do something that we haven't seen before and catch the audience off-guard. I mean, we've seen an attack on CTU (in season 2), and we've seen an EMP (in season 4). But imagine how shocking it would have been if, instead of trying to fake Tarin's shooting death (which allowed CTU to get tipped off), the terrorists had followed through on their original willingness to let him sacrifice himself for the cause, as he would have done if he'd been blown up in President Hassan's limousine. Suppose he'd driven Kayla right into CTU, then detonated the EMP himself when he was sure it was properly placed. Now that would have been a twist worthy of the old 24. And it would have made the terrorist adversary much more frightening in its commitment and determination.

But no, we got a faked escape that you could spot instantly, and the usual last-minute too-late-to-stop-it recognition of the trick by CTU, and the formula grinds predictably onward.

My favorite part of this season has become watching them try to substitute L.A. locations for New York. The "Delancey Street tunnel" was particularly hilarious.
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The episode preview gave away that CTU would be under attack.

 

Wow - I'm so glad that I don't watch ANY previews whatsoever.  To me, it makes the episodes that much more exciting...
post #312 of 655
Thread Starter 
^ The ad for this week's episode actually gave the times that surprising things would happen but, in my opinion, didn't show much since they were focused on telling the audience when surprises would happen. It was basically "At 3:xx, you won't believe what happens. Then at 3:xx, you'll die of surprise! Finally at 3:xx, your corpse will explode from the shock!!!!!!!!!" I might have exaggerated the ad somewhat.

The odd thing is that they gave the wrong time for the last surprise (the EMP exploding). The ad said 3:52 and it was more like 3:59 so I was looking at my watch waiting for something big to happen. Without that ad, I probably would have been more surprised.
post #313 of 655
I agree with you, Dave. If anything, at least I have the first seven seasons on DVD.

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I Have three eps on the DVr and really no desire to finish,I think I've given up.
 


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Originally Posted by TravisR View Post

 I might have exaggerated the ad somewhat.

 

Not by much. The giveaway was the shot of Hastings running for the entrance and yelling panicked orders into his phone.
post #315 of 655
Maybe it's a bad idea to have a tunnel that leads into CTU- sure makes it easy for bomb delivery.
post #316 of 655


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Originally Posted by Chris Lockwood View Post

Maybe it's a bad idea to have a tunnel that leads into CTU- sure makes it easy for bomb delivery.
 

Ha - the first few times they showed the "parking tunnel" I didn't notice that there seems to be a left turn just ahead that presumably leads back outside.

My first thought was that it was like the batcave and there must have been a rotating platform in the floor that turned the cars around.  Either that, or the CTU "Parking Guards" have become absolute masters of the three-point turn.
post #317 of 655


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Originally Posted by Michael Reuben View Post
The episode preview gave away that CTU would be under attack. But I think the writers missed a real opportunity to finally do something that we haven't seen before and catch the audience off-guard. I mean, we've seen an attack on CTU (in season 2), and we've seen an EMP (in season 4). But imagine how shocking it would have been if, instead of trying to fake Tarin's shooting death (which allowed CTU to get tipped off), the terrorists had followed through on their original willingness to let him sacrifice himself for the cause, as he would have done if he'd been blown up in President Hassan's limousine. Suppose he'd driven Kayla right into CTU, then detonated the EMP himself when he was sure it was properly placed. Now that would have been a twist worthy of the old 24. And it would have made the terrorist adversary much more frightening in its commitment and determination.
Yes, that would have been better.  The whole arriving with just 30 seconds left really was too convenient.  If she made just one wrong turn on the way there, the plan would have been ruined. 

Earlier in the episode I thought that perhaps the thumb drive from the parole guy would have had some virus on it and that would actually connect the Dana story with the rest of the plot.  That storyline will still go on with Dana presumably trying to bluff her way out now that the data is gone (and even if it isn't gone she can say it is).

post #318 of 655


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I know people have been complaining about this season but they're on a roll now as far as I'm concerned.


 



 
Absolutely. That's 3 solid episodes in a row and tonight was the best of the season IMHO. I'm finally back at the point where I am eagerly awaiting the show every week now.

post #319 of 655
I thought the Episode was very entertaining. It reminded me why I liked the show in the first place. I hate to hear it will be going away more than likely.... but can't wait until it hits the BIG SCREEN! Then when they say Jack is Back.... I will be in line.
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The episode preview gave away that CTU would be under attack. But I think the writers missed a real opportunity to finally do something that we haven't seen before and catch the audience off-guard. I mean, we've seen an attack on CTU (in season 2), and we've seen an EMP (in season 4). But imagine how shocking it would have been if, instead of trying to fake Tarin's shooting death (which allowed CTU to get tipped off), the terrorists had followed through on their original willingness to let him sacrifice himself for the cause, as he would have done if he'd been blown up in President Hassan's limousine. Suppose he'd driven Kayla right into CTU, then detonated the EMP himself when he was sure it was properly placed. Now that would have been a twist worthy of the old 24. And it would have made the terrorist adversary much more frightening in its commitment and determination.

There is way too much "we have to keep the actor alive"

I was actually waiting for them to just use a part of the nuclear rod and have someone - even a "main" just use part of it as a dirty bomb.  The season is too convoluted.  If terrorists had nuclear materials in NYC, they'd use them immediately, rather then worrying about how to blackmail and escape with them or find "the best spot".  Who cares.  Tons of idiots with packs strapped on their back like that one kid, eager to meet the 40 virgins who await them.

The subplot about the parole makes NO sense.  There is no way a simple parole officer comes up to check up on a parole, and manages to get access to CTU, know the innerworkings of an inter-office request for electronic records, and more then that, expect it to be fulfilled immediately, without a court order chop-chop?  That whole storyline seems to be going nowhere and is beyond ridiculous.  And if it turns into anything that matters (she secretly works for the other side) then it won't be a jump-the-shark, it will be "Homeboys in Outerspace" bad.  There is NO redeeming that storyline.


That having been said, I have enjoyed the action sequences more the last few weeks, and it's improved.  I just wish the "B" story would go away.

post #321 of 655


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I know people have been complaining about this season but they're on a roll now as far as I'm concerned. I liked Jack's machine-like reaction to the EMP detonating.

An electromagnetic pulse bomb. It doesn't blow things up, it shorts out all electronics in its radius so the CTU is totally disabled now. On the plus side, Dana's bad day has taken an upturn since all the evidence against her is gone.

Thanks Travis! Yep, I really enjoyed this episode. It helps that I didn't see any previews. Dana can't be out of the woods I'm sorry to say, but I wish she was so we didn't have to sit through her story line.

post #322 of 655
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If terrorists had nuclear materials in NYC, they'd use them immediately, rather then worrying about how to blackmail and escape with them or find "the best spot"...

The subplot about the parole makes NO sense.  



I'm not saying that I find it all that good but it does make sense. If Dana wasn't guilty, she could tell the guy to get lost but she needed to talk her way out of it with Prady and make sure that no one else at CTU finds out about it.

As for them using the bomb immediately, they didn't plan on using the nuclear rods as a bomb initially. They wanted to transport the rods back to their country. They got caught so they decided to engineer a dirty bomb since they can't get out of the country with them. Until they finish making the bomb, they have no way to do any real damage with the rods.
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The whole arriving with just 30 seconds left really was too convenient.  If she made just one wrong turn on the way there, the plan would have been ruined. 

And what if she hadn't made all the traffic lights?!? 

And, she was driving pretty darn fast (as one might suspect) as she was leaving the "shooting" scene.  What if she'd been pulled over by one of NYC's finest?  It's been known to happen. 
post #324 of 655
Right.  Difficult to crap all over the last couple of episodes, so I won't even try.  It feels good to enjoy 24 again - let's hope it goes out with a bang...
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There is way too much "we have to keep the actor alive"


The subplot about the parole makes NO sense.  There is no way a simple parole officer comes up to check up on a parole, and manages to get access to CTU, know the innerworkings of an inter-office request for electronic records, and more then that, expect it to be fulfilled immediately, without a court order chop-chop?  That whole storyline seems to be going nowhere and is beyond ridiculous.  And if it turns into anything that matters (she secretly works for the other side) then it won't be a jump-the-shark, it will be "Homeboys in Outerspace" bad.  There is NO redeeming that storyline.

 


I think the goal is always to keep the actors alive, even when the characters are killed off.

Do we know for sure the guy is a parole officer, just because he says he is?


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I think the goal is always to keep the actors alive, even when the characters are killed off.

Do we know for sure the guy is a parole officer, just because he says he is?

 

I'm not saying he is for certain.  I just referred to as such because it makes it easy to tell who I was talking about, as opposed to using the actor's name, et cetera.
post #327 of 655
Its getting better, and I'm glad I didn't give up a few weeks ago.  My current list of beefs over the last two episodes: I think anyone giving a parole officer the time of day during a time when they are tracking terrorists is just stupid.  He would be told to go pound sand, not to mention no state is going to pay to send a PO on a cross country chase.  They would rely on warrants and hope that he gets caught by a local jurisdiction.  My other biggest complaint is how all these cops wearing body armor are taken out by distant pistol shots, and I loved how the CTU guys came charging in to try and rescue the presidents brother with no one (or even a drone) covering the "back door"....so much for trained professionals.

Action is getting better, the writers need to step it up a bit.
post #328 of 655
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Originally Posted by Adam Gregorich View Post

I think anyone giving a parole officer the time of day during a time when they are tracking terrorists is just stupid.  He would be told to go pound sand, not to mention no state is going to pay to send a PO on a cross country chase. 


I know I've said it before but the only reason that Dana is dealing with the guy is because she has something to hide and can't afford having Hastings find out that she has some kind of connection to a felon (since it could lead back to her real identity). If she didn't have something to hide, she could and would tell the guy to come back another time. That she doesn't say that must only fuel his suspicions.
post #329 of 655
I think it just became pretty clear that 24 just can't come up with anything new anymore
post #330 of 655
Why, why, why was it necessary to go down that road
with Dana's character?

Cheap move.  


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