24: Season Eight - Page 10

Mike, once again, you're incorrect. If one person feels this way about particular scenes, there's bound to be more people who think the same way. Oh, and I really don't need to choose my words carefully because I'm stating an opinion.

Fact is that these scenes in this current season go well above what should be acceptable on a broadcast network like Fox. I find it implausible that you would think abhorrent and graphic violence on television should be acceptable behavior. This is why studios keep getting in trouble with the FCC.

I've watched every episode of Seasons 1-7 and I can tell you that the level of violence that I saw portrayed in a few episodes of Season 8 went above what should be acceptable behavior by the network. While the production company cannot be blamed, the network can because they should have edited those scenes out.

Jack Bauer: "I'm going to need a hacksaw."
 

Seriously, if that scene wasn't edited out in season 2, nothing this season needs to be edited out.
 

Jaref:

You should write a letter to Fox and express your outrage.   

Oh the irony:

Once again you are trying to apply your opinion to another person or persons.  Opinion is not fact, and neither are statements given with no evidence.  You keep putting out rank speculation with no evidence to back it up. 

Oh and by the way, the FCC fines levied for the last 20 years are because of sexual content or language alone.  How do I know that?  Because unlike you, I actually do research before stating something as fact:


From: www.fcc.gov/eb/oip/FAQ.html




Edited by Jeff Gatie - 3/12/10 at 6:36am

Maybe they don't feel violence on TV is a problem.

Wait'll they get Jaref's letter. 

I have no idea how they justify it.  Personally, I think the FCC should be disbanded.  It's an unconstitutional government agency that is allowed vast punitive powers, yet it answers to no one.  It also has an incredibly conflicted dual mission of both regulating content and issuing broadcast licenses, allowing it overreaching powers to fine for actual transgressions, and intimidate through licensing for any unenforcable or unprovable slights, all at the whim of an unelected bureaucrat. This, in my opinion, goes directly against the First Amendment.  For me, the only "regulation" needed on subjective content is the remote control.

Personally, I'm enjoying the hell out of 24 right now.  I'll miss it when it's gone.

I used to love the show, but now I only "like" it. Season 6 really killed my enthusiasm. That being said, last season and this season have been better, but still not good. I will certainly miss 24 when its gone because even when its bad its better than 90% of the crap on TV.

 

As far as this season goes, I'm HATING the stupid Starbuck subplot. They have had 2-3 different opportunities to end it and they keep resurrecting it. When the PO officer called her I was so frustrated. Just when you think its over they find a way to keep it going... ugh. This sub-plot might single handedly ruin this season for me.

The main plot is pretty fun and I dig the giant hair. There are a few annoyances there (like his sudden out of character paranoia) but its all easily overlooked while enjoying the show.

Chloe is awesome as always.

The former FBI chick is smoking hot and a badass too, which makes her fun to watch.

The violence seems more or less the same as it has always been.

I'll sum up by saying that if they drop the stupid Starbuck sub-plot this season has a chance to be average, otherwise, its a loser (although still not as bad as the abomination that was season 6).

This weeks episode was tense as hell and I also began to like that kid before he got blowed up real good lol.

Classic Jack Bauer telling the kid he's going to kill his mother if he didn't come out, I had to laugh when the kid said "I don't believe you, you wouldn't do that."

My first thought was "That's Jack Bauer your fuckin' with, boy, he ain't lyin'."

I didn't get the feeling Jack would do it.

Maybe not, if the kid's dead what's the point in killing his mom, but don't think that Jack isn't capable of that. Remember in an earlier season he was fully prepared to throw Saunders' daughter into the infected hotel and he would have if he didn't talk.

Point is don't test Jack, he will do anything and is capable of anything to get what's required to defuse a situation.

But as you say, there'd be no point, so my thinking is he isn't capable of that -- and I'm glad he isn't. They're different situations. But we know Jack a lot better than the guy with the bomb. HE didn't know what Jack would do, and that's all that mattered. It was a bluff. No biggie.

While watching, I couldn't remember if the hospital was within the blast radius (or fallout radius). It seems I remember the guy saying something to Jack and Jack saying he'd take his mom into the fallout radius. Otherwise, the most effective thing would have been to handcuff his mother to something right there in the room and say, "When you go, she goes." So if the hospital wasn't within the fallout radius, the writers should have made it so. I think that would have been more effective and believable.

 Not much of a blast radius since it is a dirty bomb

You are remembering correct.  Jack said that he would bring the mother to ground zero, and expose her.  After only 5 seconds, she would have only two weeks of agony before she died.  Also, he said first he would make her clean up what's left of her son.

Well, I just discovered that Fox has been approached by NBC to produce the series but there's doubt whether NBC will be able to afford the high production cost for the series:

http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/03/13/nbc-interested-in-picking-up-24/

Well, since NBC's slogan this season is "More Colorful..." (an update on the old "in living color" slogan) maybe they want to include a bright, blood red into their color palette. 

I don't know. NBC doesn't have a very good track record with funding its own television shows. Surface, Sliders, seaQuest DSV, Invisible Man are just a few shows that NBC has canceled. I just don't think that NBC would be willing to take on the series. With Kiefer Sutherland already considering leaving after this season as well as viewers losing interest in the series. Not only that, but 24 has lasted eight seasons. I seriously doubt NBC would want a high priced production series that has already seen a climax in viewership and with viewers winding down on the series, I just don't see NBC coming in at the end of the series run. It would be a very big gamble on NBC's part.

I would assume that if NBC picked up the series and if Kiefer left the series after this season then NBC would be looking at cutting down the production costs for the series.

Travis, thing is that I believe NBC would still need to order the episodes from Fox, meaning they would still have to pay for the series. As far as this series goes, I just don't see it lasting for too much longer because you're right. The series has done outlived it's time. I think there's only so much more that they can do with this series and these characters.

Law & Order as well as CSI, the franchise courtroom dramas, are the only two that have had extended and successful runs because these shows are constantly rotating the cast of each show. Law and Order has went through so many cast changes that it continues to reinvent itself. However, there's only so much you can do before the plot of the show starts to become stagnant.

The problem with 24 is that it has had more than one season of stagnant writing. Personally, I think the second season was the best and I actually enjoyed the sixth season because while the plot was lackluster, the producers rebooted the series and made it interesting. I wouldn't personally blame the directors or producers but rather the writers on the show for not producing decent scripts. Without a good story, the movie/television series suffers.

Now this was a good episode in my opinion.....So what kind of bomb was that?

Looks like we are in for some old school CTU action for the rest of the day.   Still so tired of the Dana subplot.

When it revealed an explosive device was en route to CTU, I guessed one of two scenarios: 1)EMP, or 2) the parole officer would be shooed out of CTU and into the waiting area, only to be caught in the blast.  Either way, I knew it would "solve" Dana's problems.  Of course, now I assume we get to watch her being pursued with mroe accusations, only this time, in the dark!

Tonight was awesome, I thought I'd become jaded at 24's bag of tricks but I did not see that coming.

I'm wondering what happened to the agent who tried to drive the car out of there? Did he die? Unless someone has a device to assist with heart regulation I don't think an EMP can kill someone can it?

But it also blew out the windows of the guard house so obviously there was physical force that accompanied the pulse.

Love the line from next week..."CTU only has one weapon left...Jack Bauer."

Hell, he's the only weapon they ever needed.