24: Season Eight - Page 8

They used the same musical cue at the end that they used at the end of Season 1 when Jack was staring down Nina in the garage. Odd choice, since the end of this episode was hardly as dramatic as the finale of S1.

Well, I finally got to see tonight's episode and read the 18 posts in this thread it generated.

The episode was good enough to keep me interested to see where some of this goes.  I, too, am glad Jack is just now back on the job until "this thing is done." 

I suppose it's just good to note that the show actually has us fairly vigorously debating plot points and actions.  I wasn't sure that was going to happen.   It's a lot better than "worst season ever" over and over again.

I can't tell if you are just making my point for me or missing the point entirely.  Battered wives = motive to kill. Be it in self-defense or otherwise.  Pent up rage is the excuse that one would use to defend that it took 15 stabs to kill your abusive husband, or russian gangmember that you are infiltrating undercover, who rapes and then slaps you around - got it. 15 stab wounds still should illicit more than a simple Chloe debrief and for Jack to go all "Jack" when that "more" happens strikes me as weird. 

I still find the unbelievable part started with Jack's spidey senses detecting that Renee is being "setup" and then Jack's weird response to it.

The lack of commentary on this past Monday's episode is interesting.  Let me say up front that if you are one who is enjoying this season, I apologize for crapping all over it.  Now that it has been said....let the crapping begin!

Wow, another head shaker and not the good kind.  From the bizarre decision of Omar's little brother to stand up for some target practice to the spectacularly stupid sequence of Chloe's "I need to see the vest", so I can magically disarm it from the other side of Manhatten, this was just painful. Painfully awful.  Maybe awfully painful.  In any event, it certainly wasn't good.

The Dana/Cole thing is also taking a turn for the worse, and I wasn't sure that was possible.  After weighting down the 2 bodies of the "bumpkin bandits" and sinking them 4 feet from shore in what looked like 3 feet of water she asks "What about us?" and he answers "I don't know."  Ugh

I am now exclusively watching this season just to come back to this thread and bitch.  Fair warning.

While I really liked this weeks hour there was one thing that frustrated me to no end, after 'Operation: Weekend at Bernie's' was a complete success and they convinced the shooter that he was alive, Jack had ample time to bum rush the kid or take out a knee cap before he jumped though a plate glass window.

I also find it hard to swallow that Hasting's put this child in charge of such a sensitive operation, I mean I know he would like the kid to gain some field experience but this was not the time to do so.

One thing I thought would have been a cool twist is that if the kid in the oxygen chamber turned out to be an older Bahrooz Araz from season 4, it would fit since his mother is obviously American so it's plausible that he was adopted after his mother's death. He also shot Jack a very hateful look in the monitor as if he knew who he was.

You know how hard it would be to throw yourself through the glass of a window like that?!? 

That would have been hilarious, he gets up, brushes himself off and says "Wow, I thought that was going to be, like, way easier."

Travis, I hear you on this.  It does suck when you enjoy something that someone else thinks is stupid - happens to me all the time! 

I personally am working harder on accepting differing opinions.....why, I may even stoop to watching the Jay Leno show at some point...

I love that. I'd like the see the ideas the writers thought of, then decided were too crazy for the show- if there are any.

How about a button Chloe could press where all terrorists turn green so they can easily be spotted in a crowd? Or better, the button just makes them decide not to be terrorists and take up crocheting as a hobby.

Well, I have to say I did not care for this episode. The whole thing was cringe worthy at best. This whole Dana/Cole thing is just plain dumb. Take a trained and obviously well balanced person then all of a sudden make them go nuts when their girlfriend is exposed as being a scum bucket too? I mean it's totally out of character for someone with that kind of training and psychological screening to just turn into a guy covering tracks even if he does love her. In real life this whole thing would be done and over. He would bring her into custody, arrest the two guys for the crimes they committed if they did not put up a fight and either get her legal council and stand by her or wash his hands.

Then we have the whole, hey I think I will just stand up and become target practice for the bad guy trying to kill me. As though if you were being hunted you would just be like OK I give up go ahead and shoot.

The list goes on, but hey, at least it's not another reality TV show so I will stay to see how things turn out even though most people can write much better scripts. Maybe Jack will actually put on a cape and suit at the end. :)

I've actually been a fan of the show since they started releasing it on DVD but I have to tell you that Season 8 has managed to turn my stomach.

After watching, what was it, the second episode, when Renee Walker chopped off that guy's hand with the buzzsaw, I stopped watching any further episodes of the eighth season and it's very doubtful that I'll purchase the DVD set when it's released. The producers took that one step I was hoping they would not take, the gore factor. It really turned my stomach.

I expect these kind of scenes to be played out in movies, which is why I'm not a fan of slasher movies or gore movies ... now, the producers for 24 have crossed that line that I thought they would never cross.

Actually, I didn't miss it. It's one thing for a character to say he needs a hacksaw ... it's another thing when those scenes occur on-screen. I have no problem if the violence occurs off-screen, I just have a very stomach when it comes to gory scenes being filmed on-screen. That's where the producers went too far ... I still can't see how that made it past the censors.

Correction - She didn't need to saw off his whole arm, she only sawed off the thumb.  She then slid the bracelet off over the newly severed stump. 

I don't know why you'd think the producers of 24 would be any less susceptible to feeling the pressure of "maintaining an edge" or "pushing the envelope" in order to keep the show fresh for its viewers.

Not that I'm condoning it, mind you.  I'm just not surprised by it. 

I really don't see how that scene is any more or less violent or explicit than anything else we've seen on the show.

I mean we watched Jack rip a guy's jugular out with his teeth in season 6, not to mention the many, many MANY people who've been shot point blank.

If you consider what a bullet does to the human body it's pretty horrific but because we see people shot in movies and TV shows all the time we dismiss it.

THAT was probably the most shocking thing I've ever seen on the show. 

The legend of Jack Bauer grew by leaps and bounds with that move! 

Well, I'm not surprised by the directors trying to add shock value to the series but I don't think it was necessary and, as a result, ended up disappointing me. They could have handled that scene off-screen. It really wasn't necessary tio show that gory saw cutting scene on screen. I just know that it turned my stomach and it pushed the envelope of respectability for the series.

At least, the prior seasons didn't take it to the extreme that this current scene did.

I just won't be watching any further episodes of the series nor will I be purchasing the season 8 set when it gets released. Don't get me wrong. I've enjoyed the previous seasons and I own all of the season sets on DVD. I just don't think that scenes ,like this on television shows that are broadcast don't shed the show in a very positive light. The series did well on its own merits. They really didn't need to add shock value to the series in order to draw in more viewers.

That was one of the best scenes of the season.

If you think they added that scene (and the others) simply for pure shock value, well, I guess there's no convincing you otherwise.  I suspect we've seen the last of you in the thread.  Cheers.

This season is starting to show some signs of life. Tonight's episode definitely had the elements of great "24" High Tension situation, minimum of lame subplots, and Jack threatening to kill the family of a terrorist.

 Pretty entertaining episode tonight. Too bad they had to waste Stephen Root on the insipid Dana subplot.

Kemcha would be really glad (s)he didn't see how tonight's episode ended. Talk about gore. I'm not a fan of it, but it doesn't "bother" me as I mostly just ignore it and wait for what happens next. I'm still not digging the Dana storyline.

I'm surprisingly really liking Prinze. If someone cold questioned me, I'd think he was younger than Starbuck, but that's probably because he was so young when I first saw him. They're probably close to the same age.

How many hours have gone by and how many different bad guys have we had already?

The thing is that past seasons have had scenes that have bothered me but this current season was just too much for me. While I'm sure that it doesn't bother most here, it's just something that really went out the edge. It's a reason why I don't watch gore movies like Saw. I just think that if the producers want to infer that "so-and-so" hand was cut off, there are better ways to do that, such as cutting away.

What that scene did was nothing more than shock value. I'm aware that torture is a part of the series but this season just puts that "horror-gore" on the screen where everyone could see it. It's just a personal preference that I don't like to be subjected to with a television series that I enjoy.

Far as the characters go, I hated the fact that they added Katee Sackoff. I've seen her acting and it just doesn't fit in with the series. She looks like a circle trying to fit into the space of a square. After the first two episodes, she just didn't seem to fit in. I think the 24 producers could have found a different acttress for that role.

I know we've been there before - what with cougars, etc,  But could the "jump the shark moment" be when Dana agrees to a meeting with a parole officer from - I think - "Little Rock" in the middle of the night during a possible nuclear attack scenario on New York city?  Please tell me I didn't just see that!

LOL I was thinking the same thing.

What gore? An explosion and some blood on the door- pretty mild.

Once again people, she didn't cut off the hand.  She severed his thumb, and then slid the bracelet over the thumb stump.  Get it right!