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post #211 of 244
11/23/11 at 1:25pm

Very good news. Thanks, Joe.

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post #212 of 244
11/23/11 at 6:03pm
That's interesting, but I thought Criterion was working on Shanghai Express.
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post #213 of 244
11/23/11 at 7:17pm
It's about time on Shanghai. I'm definitely pre-ordering because I'd much rather have the pressed disc.
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post #214 of 244
11/24/11 at 8:03am

Where can I pre-order the pressed disc??? I need Shanghai foir my Best Picture Nominee collection! ONly a couple doxzen left to go! (Untill January)!

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post #215 of 244
11/24/11 at 3:51pm
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Marlene Dietrich prays for salvation in Shanghai Express (Paramount, 1932).

I can't believe the way Universal mis-handles the Von Sternberg / Dietrich collaborations. A decade late, they bunch Morocco (1930), Blonde Venus (1932), and The Devil Is a Woman (1935 ) into a star package with two lesser titles but no commentary or documentary to put each film into historical and artistic perspective. Each title deserves a Special Edition all to itself. These are vital films, important films, breakthrough films, signature works from a deeply personal filmmaker, milestones in cinematic art, and Universal treats them just like any other commercial B product. Six years later they squeeze out Dishonored (1931) and Shanghai Express (1932) as an afterthought, again with no supplements. There is so much going on in these films on so many different levels, and so much to say about them behind the scenes, it's shameful and ridiculous that Universal treats them this way. People write books about the seven Von Sternberg / Dietrich collaborations, but Universal doesn't seem to know or care anything about them.

I expect the transfers will be good. Late, but good.

At least The Scarlet Empress (1934) got the treatment it merited from Criterion.

Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.
Edited by Richard--W - 11/24/11 at 4:14pm
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post #216 of 244
11/24/11 at 4:14pm
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Where can I pre-order the pressed disc??? I need Shanghai foir my Best Picture Nominee collection! ONly a couple doxzen left to go! (Untill January)!

Simply order it online from either Turner Classic Movies or Movies Unlimited. The deal has traditionally been that, the initial batch is pressed discs. When that initial set runs out, subsequent orders are burnt discs. If you pre-order, you're sure to get a pressed disc. So far, it's taken anywhere from 9-12 months before they run out and start burning discs. Of course, your mileage may vary.
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post #217 of 244
11/24/11 at 4:15pm
Well, these will include some supplements, if previous TCM Vault releases are any indication. The supplements are fairly anemic and shoe-string, but at least they are there, unlike the "Glamour Collection."

I bought the monster "Merlene Deitrich: The Movie Collection" from the UK several years ago. They were are-bones, but at least it had a sweet box--the largest and classiest I own, next to the Ford at Fox set. Also no double-sided discs. While technically already have the titles in this TCM set (this set includes all of Universal's library of her movies), I still want a R1 edition, along with the slim chance they have new transfers.
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At least The Scarlet Empress got the treatment it merited from Criterion.

I hope Criterion is able to get that one on Blu-ray.
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post #218 of 244
11/25/11 at 10:25pm
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Simply order it online from either Turner Classic Movies or Movies Unlimited. The deal has traditionally been that, the initial batch is pressed discs. When that initial set runs out, subsequent orders are burnt discs. If you pre-order, you're sure to get a pressed disc. So far, it's taken anywhere from 9-12 months before they run out and start burning discs. Of course, your mileage may vary.

I wonder what the run of pressed discs are - 1000? 2000? 2500? Wouldn't expect it to be more than 2500. Remember, they can press the quantity, but make the packaging on-demand to keep costs down up front. More discs pressed, is a lower over-all cost of the discs.
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post #219 of 244
12/3/11 at 7:34am
A rumoured 2012 list of Universal releases which is has presumably been leaked on another forum has been posted in another thread. Supposedly, the 2012 list (after the Dietrich set) for this program is:

April: Joel McCrea westerns
June: 1950's melodrama
August: Universal rarities
October: Billy Wilder collection
December: Film Noir

I must say, it certainly sounds legit, as this list doesn't go out of its way in wish-fulfillment. I suppose in upcoming months we will know soon enough.
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post #220 of 244
12/3/11 at 2:37pm
where is tobruk with rock hudson.
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post #221 of 244
12/3/11 at 3:15pm
Well, the Billy Wilder would be an instant buy for me, possibly the rarities. The rest is really going to depend on the particular titles involved.
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post #222 of 244
12/3/11 at 4:21pm
Some of that is certain to change- but I would bet money more is going to play out that way than not.

The big oddity to me though is the August listing for Jaws, as well as Jaws 3 showing up a week earlier. That doesn't seem to make much sense.
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post #223 of 244
12/3/11 at 4:26pm
I would assume, the only two early unreleased titles that Universal would have, would be Five Graves to Cairo and A Foreign Affair (from the pre-1948 Paramounts). Unless..some of his last titles
are controlled by NBC/Universal.
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post #224 of 244
12/5/11 at 2:55pm
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A rumoured 2012 list of Universal releases which is has presumably been leaked on another forum has been posted in another thread. Supposedly, the 2012 list (after the Dietrich set) for this program is:
April: Joel McCrea westerns
June: 1950's melodrama
August: Universal rarities
October: Billy Wilder collection
December: Film Noir
I must say, it certainly sounds legit, as this list doesn't go out of its way in wish-fulfillment. I suppose in upcoming months we will know soon enough.

The June and August topics sound promising but cover an awful lot of territory... could be anything....

The December topic is encouraging too but also wide-ranging; a number of Uni noir titles already have made their way to home vid, so let's hope this would include fresh releases.
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post #225 of 244
12/5/11 at 4:27pm

The June, August and December topics stand out for me, the film noir moreso. The trouble with film noirs (and this is a good problem) is there are so many which were made. Have got probably a handful of film noirs.

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post #226 of 244
12/6/11 at 12:34pm
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The June and August topics sound promising but cover an awful lot of territory... could be anything....
The December topic is encouraging too but also wide-ranging; a number of Uni noir titles already have made their way to home vid, so let's hope this would include fresh releases.
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Originally Posted by JoHud View Post

A rumoured 2012 list of Universal releases which is has presumably been leaked on another forum has been posted in another thread. Supposedly, the 2012 list (after the Dietrich set) for this program is:
April: Joel McCrea westerns
June: 1950's melodrama
August: Universal rarities
October: Billy Wilder collection
December: Film Noir
I must say, it certainly sounds legit, as this list doesn't go out of its way in wish-fulfillment. I suppose in upcoming months we will know soon enough.

Joel McCrea Westerns? I would much rather see Gary Cooper Westerns as many of the early ones have been restored by UCLA. August is often a time when horror titles are released, so I'll keep my fingers crossed about that. I hope they don't stick their Alan Ladd titles in the Film Noir collection. Ideally, they would be released in a six film Backlot Collection with perhaps a rescued from rights purgatory Great Gatsby single DVD to coincide with the new film, but he deserves his own collection. Paramount's Ladd titles are less well known, but Olive Films has released one already and Captain Carey USA is in their next wave. Ray Milland would also be welcome. I really don't understand how titles are chosen for the TCM sets.
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post #227 of 244
3/5/12 at 3:40pm
I still don't understand why Universal hasn't released To Each His Own, Hold Back the Dawn, The Uninvited, and Love Letters. While I know of several Universal titles I would love to own, these four, huge successes in the 1940s, deserve a proper release. smile.gif
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post #228 of 244
3/5/12 at 4:47pm
To Justin's point, I don't understand why they licensed THE UNINVITED to a company called Exposure Cinema in the UK for a June 11th "official" release. The hope was that it might make it to Criterion and as a BD. The film is on a great many "most wanted" lists and hopefully they might still do it for the American release. Someone in a past thread noted that the original elements are in really good shape. Also, the first two Mitchell Leisen films he mentions had Universal Spain releases some time ago. The transfers were especially nice, unlike much of what has come out of there under the Warners and Fox banners. Seems like TCM could make a nice Leisen multi-disc set. I would love it since Mitch was my great uncle and I could send off several to the relatives. I've a lovely DVD of FRENCHMAN'S CREEK from Spain which I'm sure many would love to have here. Films like THE MATING SEASON, PRACTICALLY YOURS, KITTY and TAKE A LETTER, DARLING have never yet made it to DVD and are Universal titles.
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post #229 of 244
3/5/12 at 4:52pm
Could not agree with you more Justin on those four classic titles...but also the Ladd/Lake titles and many Ray Milland/Claudette Colbert/Barbara Stanwyck titles and one musical .....Lady in the Dark with Ginger Rogers.
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post #230 of 244
3/5/12 at 5:06pm
FIVE GRAVES TO CAIRO? A FOREIGN AFFAIR? INCENDIARY BLONDE? THE MATING SEASON?
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post #231 of 244
3/5/12 at 7:11pm

Yes, definitely let's not forget Lady in the Dark.

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post #232 of 244
3/5/12 at 7:58pm
Definitely Lady in the Dark- also, Diary of a Mad Housewife, The Glass Menagerie (1987), This Happy Feeling, When Tomorrow Comes, and Midnight Lace (Are you listening Universal?) smile.gif
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post #233 of 244
3/5/12 at 9:46pm
Universal also has the lion's share of 40's William Holden features, including Dear Ruth
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post #234 of 244
3/6/12 at 5:28am
tobruk with rock hudson.
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post #235 of 244
3/6/12 at 8:33am
I'm guessing this is from the aforementioned marketing partnership: A TCM-branded box set of '50s Universal "Women in Danger" films, now up for pre-order via Movies Unlimited:

http://www.moviesunlimited.com/musite/product.asp?sku=D59795&utm_source=Listrak&trk_msg=FQTENPGRS1JKB4RIA0Q6KKIJF8&trk_contact=HNTM1QSLG43588U7ISRNC63ICC&utm_campaign=What%27s+the+best+%22Mafia%22+movie%3F&utm_term=Women+In+Danger%3A+1950s+Thrillers&utm_medium=Email

Maybe this lines up with the "1950s Melodrama" category included in the rumored release categories listed above....
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post #236 of 244
3/6/12 at 8:40am
Great list of films, yet, with so many Universal films (note above) unreleased, this seems like more of a bittersweet release...
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post #237 of 244
3/6/12 at 8:44am
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Originally Posted by Camps View Post

I'm guessing this is from the aforementioned marketing partnership: A TCM-branded box set of '50s Universal "Women in Danger" films, now up for pre-order via Movies Unlimited:
http://www.moviesunlimited.com/musite/product.asp?sku=D59795&utm_source=Listrak&trk_msg=FQTENPGRS1JKB4RIA0Q6KKIJF8&trk_contact=HNTM1QSLG43588U7ISRNC63ICC&utm_campaign=What%27s+the+best+%22Mafia%22+movie%3F&utm_term=Women+In+Danger%3A+1950s+Thrillers&utm_medium=Email
Though this doesn't seem to line up with the rumored release categories listed above....

Well, well, well. The Unguarded Moment! Out of the blue - just like that! One of the most sought after missing movies, not included in Hollywood Classics' list of Universal movies, and here it is.

OK. I'm pre-ordering this box-set. I've wanted The Unguarded Moment for a long time and I'm not taking any chances.
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post #238 of 244
3/6/12 at 9:12am
Plus FEMALE ON THE BEACH, for the Joan Crawford-inclined.
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post #239 of 244
3/6/12 at 9:22am
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Great list of films, yet, with so many Universal films (note above) unreleased, this seems like more of a bittersweet release...

Agreed, Justin. I've been wailing for ages about Universal cranking up the MOD volume. Here's hoping the "Universal Rarities" set rumored for August includes some choice stuff. But gee, one box set every 2 months....? I really wish these guys would try a bit more to emulate the Warner Archive model, or get in bed with them somehow ... anything to get more than 4 movies every 8 weeks... frown.gif
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post #240 of 244
3/6/12 at 9:36am
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Here's hoping the "Universal Rarities" set rumored for August includes some choice stuff.


A hope for that set is MYRT AND MARGE (1933), Universal's sole [Ted Healy & His] Three Stooges holding.
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