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post #31 of 55
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Another good win by the Celtics last night.  When they were trailing 91-90 with around 3:00 left, I felt very good about their chances of going up 2-0 against Orlando.  This team is hitting on all cylinders at the moment.  I really am hoping that they meet the Lakers in the NBA Finals.  It could be a Finals for the ages.  And if Boston should lose to Los Angeles, then maybe the 'Big Four' would stay around one more year to play the rubber series of the match. ;)

 

I've been following the Celtics for more than forty years.  I didn't realize that until last night, Boston had never won the opening two playoff games of any series on the road before.  They are playing very well on the road.  They have thus far eliminated the no. 1 seed (Cleveland), and may eliminate the no. 2 seed (Orlando).  And if they get that far, they would have to defeat the no. 3 seed (Los Angeles) in the Finals.  Their road to the Finals is easily the toughest of any team thus far, and that is as it should be.  And having five consecutive wins against Cleveland and Orlando combined is quite a feat by any team.

 

Go Celtics!


Edited by Ockeghem - 5/19/10 at 9:52am
post #32 of 55

As a Laker fan, I would love to see a Celtic/Laker match-up in the finals.  However, I also thought that the Celtics were the one team that could really give LA trouble.  With Cleveland, if you can play good "D" against James without double teaming him, you can shut down their offense.  Same thing with Orlando.  If you can guard Howard one on one, it makes it harder to kick the ball out of the paint for the other guys on the Magic to nail 3-pointers, and Orlando lives and dies with the 3-point shot.

 

Celtics are just a great team.  They play great team defense, and their offense does not rely one one person doing all the scoring.  I think the key to disrupting the Celtics offense is getting the ball out of Rondos hands.  Bostons offense becomes stagnant when Rondo can't drive the lane and make the defense collapse.  But with Rondos speed, keeping him out of the lane is easier said than done.

 

Interesting point, as of right now the finals are set to start on June 3rd, but the NBA announced that if both conference finals go five games or less, they could move the date of the finals to June 1st.  Not to insult Magic or Suns fans, but I really hope both Boston and LA finish of these series quickly.  As much as I love the NBA, my one complaint is that the post-season drags on forever.

 

tyler

post #33 of 55
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^^^

 

I think it would be a wonderful Finals, and I hope it happens.  And seeing as I have been making comparisons with the 2010 Celtics team to the 1969 Celtics team, it's particularly appropriate that such a series would open in Los Angeles.

 

"As much as I love the NBA, my one complaint is that the post-season drags on forever."

 

I agree.  This dragging on seems to permeate just about all of the major sports these days.

post #34 of 55
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Mike Brown's dismissal is official:

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5213917

post #35 of 55

Well, it lloks like my hope of a earlier start date for the finals is gone with Phoenix winning game 4.  And the confidence I had in an "easy" series vs. the Suns is gone as well.  As well as Phoenix plays at home, I really thought that LA would steal one on the road.  Oh well, back to LA where hopefully the Lakers get back on track.  As much as I want a LA vs Boston final, I hope Orlando can pull out another win.  Boston is just too damn dangerous if some of their older players have a week off to rest up and deal with the bumps and bruises that slow players down this time of year.

 

tyler

post #36 of 55
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^^^

 

I think that Orlando will win tonight, and that the Celtics will close the series out in Boston.  I picked the Celtics in six games before the series started, although I thought Boston would split in Orlando and take care of business (rather than split) at home.  Still, a 3-1 lead is quite good.  Boston could close it out tonight, which would be fine with me, obviously.  They could do it.  When the Celtics lose a game these days, it seems to motivate them all the more in the next game.  They haven't dropped consecutive games thus far in the playoffs (Miami, Cleveland, or Orlando).

 

BTW, I can't envision a Phoenix - Boston NBA Finals.  But, there must be some NBA fans here who remember the 1976 Finals quite well.  I have much of that series on DVD, including game five, one of the greatest --if not the greatest -- games ever played in an NBA finals.  I was graduating from High School the year the Celtics won that game in triple overtime.  Such a great memory for me.  {BTW, I had forgotten that on their way to the Finals that year, the Celtics also defeated the Cavaliers, four games to two.}

 

http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_1976.html

 

Go Celtics!


Edited by Ockeghem - 5/26/10 at 8:51am
post #37 of 55
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Has anyone here who loves the NBA thought that Phoenix could possibly win the next two games against the Lakers?

post #38 of 55
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That was an impressive game one win by the Lakers last night.  They made it look quite easy against Boston.  I think the Celtics will play a bit better in game two.  The Celtics cannot win (or rarely win) when they give up that many points (102).  Truth be told, the score in the early going was looking like it was going in Boston's favor (88 ppg. for the Lakers).  But that mini-run at the end of the first quarter, and the excellent play of Brown and Gasol (and to some extent, Artest) in the second quarter really gave the Lakers the boost they needed to secure the win.

 

This is a difficult series for me to gauge.  In 2008, it was a tad easier.  If Boston held home court and won one in L.A., the series was all but over, and as it turns out, it was.  But this year, with the Lakers holding home court, that may make all the difference.  I don't know who will win it, even though most experts that I have read are picking Los Angeles.  I picked Boston to win it in six games before the series started, and I will stick with that. :)

 

If this series is anything like 1969, then Boston will find itself in an 0-2 hole after Sunday's game. ;)

 

Go Celtics!

post #39 of 55
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That was a good win for Boston last night.  As wonderful as Allen's NBA record is, Rondo's triple-double was at least as equally great.  And what is becoming something not all that rare in this year's playoffs, Rondo again led all players in rebounding.  His block of Fisher's shot, and his steal of Bryant (I don't think Bryant had any idea that Rondo was even there) were both timely and game-saving, IMO.  And Garnett had a key basket in the closing minutes as well.  That's two games in which foul trouble has created huge difficulties for both teams.

 

The Celtics hit some key jumpers (including the one by Rondo when Boston maintained possession of the ball three times instead of one during one trip down the court) and really took care of the ball in the second half (two turnovers).  The Lakers, on the other hand, had eight missed shots and three turnovers with under 5:00 remaining.  And I can't recall the last time Bryant missed two shots in succession, much less an eight-foot shot when it mattered.  But I do remember Allen missing a shot in the waning seconds during the regular season contest in Boston that (had he not missed) would have given Boston the win.  Now it's on to Boston.  It should be quite interesting.

 

Go Celtics!


Edited by Ockeghem - 6/7/10 at 5:35pm
post #40 of 55
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I'm obviously quite pleased with the result of yesterday's game.  Whenever the Celtics hold their opponent under 90 points, I'm fairly confident that they are going to win the game.  Thus far in this year's playoffs, the Celtics have won three straight games against each of their first three opponents (Miami, Cleveland, and Orlando).  I'm hoping that this trend continues on Tuesday evening.  I would rather not see a game seven, since I can't resurrect the ghosts of 1969 (although I would if I could). ;)

 

As good as Kobe Bryant is, I would take Paul Pierce over him (for a variety of reasons) in a heartbeat.  To Bryant's credit, he isn't putting any of the blame on his teammates, although he probably could do this given how some of them have performed recently.  As for Pierce, he really does step it up when it seems to be needed most by the Celtics.

 

My dream ending?  The Lakers are up in game six by two points with about five seconds remaining, and Ray Allen makes the game-winning (and NBA Championship-winning) three-point shot. :)


Edited by Ockeghem - 6/15/10 at 5:45am
post #41 of 55

I'm now only rooting for the Celtics because if they can't close it out in Game 6, we probably will never see the final 2 episodes of Better Off Ted aired by ABC in the Game 7 timeslot, and would have to wait until they show up on a DVD/BD set.  Haha.

post #42 of 55
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^^^

 

Hey, that's as good a reason as any to root for the Green. ;)

post #43 of 55
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What an impressive win by the Lakers last night.  They were firing on all cylinders.  Each time the team that has had the rebounding edge has won the game.  I don't see how game seven will be any different.  I hope Perk can play, but it's not looking good by all accounts.

 

The two teams have played a game seven four times in their storied history.  I only remember two of them (1969 and 1984).  Three of the four were in Boston.  This one could be a great game.  If game seven is close, I see an exciting, electrifying ending that will be remembered for quite some time.  Kobe?  Pierce?  Allen?  Artest?

 

Go Celtics!

post #44 of 55

Congrats to the Lakers on their 16th championship, and Phil Jackson's 11th.

post #45 of 55
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Congratulations to the Los Angeles Lakers fans on this Board, and to the Los Angeles Lakers on their 11th Championship. ;)

 

The Lakers played very well, and deserve the title. :)

post #46 of 55

Any guesses where LeBron will go? I think he'll stay in Cleveland.

post #47 of 55
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I think he will remain in Cleveland as well.  But wouldn't it be interesting if he went to the Heat?

post #48 of 55

I'm putting Cleveland at the bottom of the list.  I'll go with, based on information as of today,

 

Chicago

Heat

Knicks

Cleveland

 

Based on common sense and logic, I'd go to Chicago.  But that means I'll be wrong.  That team would be insane with him, especially with Boozer.  They already have a great team AND money to pay lebron.  The heat will have three people making $16m and then 9 league minimums.  That doesn't win anything.

post #49 of 55

I just want the media feeding frenzy to be over. This has been worse than the annual "is Brett Favre going to retire?" circus.

post #50 of 55
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Well, I am surprised by this move of LeBron.  But I am even more surprised at the reaction of some of the Cleveland fans, and especially at the letter written by the owner of the Cavaliers.  Wow.  I never saw that coming, even when I was speculating that James might move on.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5365793

 

I'm guessing that Tom Izzo is quite pleased with the decision he made recently.  I wonder too about Byron Scott in this (now very different) scenario.  I thought he (Scott) would bring a lot more energy to the Cavaliers team.  I think his job just got a lot more difficult.  But I suppose one could look at this a few ways.  Maybe a fresh start is what the Cavaliers need.

post #51 of 55


 

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Originally Posted by Ockeghem View Post

Well, I am surprised by this move of LeBron.  But I am even more surprised at the reaction of some of the Cleveland fans, and especially at the letter written by the owner of the Cavaliers.  Wow.  I never saw that coming, even when I was speculating that James might move on.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5365793

 

 

Yeah, the owner reacting the way he did, was surprising.

 

It's was really annoying that James did all that, going on national to announce his decision. Just sign with a team and be done with it. Makes me wish the Heat will never win one, as long as he is there.

post #52 of 55

I sympathize with Cleveland's owner. James strung him and the city of Cleveland along when he had no intention of coming back just so he could have his ego stroked in the media. As for Izzo, I thought he would be a fool to take the Cavs job unless he had an iron-clad guarantee that James was returning. As it turns out, Izzo is no fool.

 

I heard this morning on the radio that ESPN claims they knew what James decision would be for two weeks. If that is the case, then they have lost what little shred of journalistic integrity they had left. ESPN has been reporting "rumors" of possible landing points for LeBron all along, knowing they were not true -- just to drum up viewership for SportsCenter and the one hour "LeBron Ego Show".

 

I think James, ESPN and the NBA all look very foolish this morning.

 

BTW, I completely forgot about James announcing his decision last night until I turned on the news this morning. I guess ESPN's media blitz didn't work too well on me.

post #53 of 55

I'm just glad I didn't have a dog in that hunt. 

 

I don't really sympathize with anyone in this "drama".  Ownership can be just as callous in their handling of non-desirable players, cutting them, or shipping them off to another team without remorse.  Cleveland Cavaliers ownership just got a taste of their own medicine by hanging their hopes on his return. 

 

Everyone needs to do what in their own best interest.  It's just business.  Was it bad for Cleveland that LBJ strung them along?  Only if you feel that LBJ should only act in Cleveland's best interest and not his own best interest.  Was it bad for LBJ to keep the Cavs around as a last option in case no other deals were working for him?  Only if you're the Cavs and your hopes got dashed.  What if all the other deals went bad, and LBJ decided to stay in Cleveland?  Being an option was better than not even getting into the arena.  Sure, I get that no one wants to get "played", but if you didn't think it was worth the heartache, you would have moved on and signed someone else, unfortunately LBJ was in the driver's seat, and he drove this spectacle for all its worth.

 

It was sort like watching the NBA equivalent of "The Bachelor", where everyone tries to put on their best "persona" until the suitors get sent home one by one, and someone's crying after such a dismissal.

 

I have a friend who's a huge Cavs fan, and he went off on me for linking to Dan Gilbert's "F-U to LBJ" letter last night.  I just chalked it up to fans getting butt-hurt on LBJ's "betrayal", but at the end of the day, it's just entertainment.

post #54 of 55
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Here is an interesting viewpoint on the response of Gilbert to James leaving Cleveland.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=broussard_chris&page=gilbertlbj-100709

post #55 of 55

The most interesting thing to me about the whole situation are the indications, however unverifiable, that Lebron, Wade, and Bosh may have actually committed to Miami under the table as long as two years ago thanks to Riley and Wade selling the other two on the idea and Riley making it so nearly the entire team's contracts expired this year (either an unbelievably ballsy gamble or not a gamble at all depending on one's view). If nothing else, it's the most entertaining NBA conspiracy theory since the notion that Jordan's first retirement was an unofficial gambling suspension :)

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