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post #91 of 221
10/23/09 at 7:28pm
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Originally Posted by TonyD View Post


anyone else see the spinny thing next to the word quote in the post i quoted and took a pic of?
Also the thing is spinning in the quote too.

 

I see it in *your* quote/post, but not elsewhere that I can recall.

_Man_
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post #92 of 221
10/23/09 at 8:04pm
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Originally Posted by TonyD View Post


anyone else see the spinny thing next to the word quote in the post i quoted and took a pic of?
Also the thing is spinning in the quote too.
 

I see it, Tony.   Rather hypnotic.

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I'm just now noticing that Mike's screen grabs also don't show the "first new post" links most of the time -- and he uses Firefox.

Man:  The "First New Post" links are only supposed to be visible when your cursor is hovering over a particular thread.  In other words, you can see only one "First New Post" link at a time--wherever your cursor happens to be at the moment. 

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I, too, wish the fixes weren't waiting until Monday.  A lot of business takes place on this forum over the weekend--among them one in particular that's near and dear to my heart. 

I'm still trying to understand the reasons behind this particular "change."  What's the practical advantage over the way the home page was set up before?  Christina says we are on the same wavelength...but until someone tells us what is trying to be accomplished, it's hard for the membership to know what frequency to try tuning-in.

While I sometimes think management must get tired listening to our complaints, it's hard to do anything else when we are left to react to unsatisfactory changes that we didn't know were coming and don't know why they are being made--especially when so many other suggestions have been made that have nothing to do with this issue. 
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post #93 of 221
10/23/09 at 8:23pm
 A few quotes come to mind...
Dont fix it if it isnt broken, and, I know engineers, they love to change things.

I just wanted to throw that out, see if it sticks.
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post #94 of 221
10/23/09 at 9:09pm
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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon View Post

I, too, wish the fixes weren't waiting until Monday. 

And especially since, besides the clunkiness of the aesthetic, there are also practical functional issues like the fact that the "More" button at the bottom of the thread listings don't work properly and a member cannot easily find his subscribed threads past the first page. 
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post #95 of 221
10/24/09 at 5:37am
How about that forum jump/tree at the bottom of pages so we can jump back to the forum at hand without going back to the top of the page.
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post #96 of 221
10/24/09 at 7:12am
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Originally Posted by TonyD View Post

How about that forum jump/tree at the bottom of pages so we can jump back to the forum at hand without going back to the top of the page.
 

Not sure what you're looking for here. How is it different from the "current forum" link that's been available under the "More Forums" menu at the bottom of the page for weeks now?

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post #97 of 221
10/24/09 at 11:27am
Thanks for your feedback.  Any specific browser and operating system information would be much appreciated.  We'll definitely try to replicate the issues you've been seeing and fix accordingly! Again, thanks for your patience.
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post #98 of 221
10/24/09 at 12:12pm
It's different because it's not this



Oh well, guess it really doesn't matter anymore.
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post #99 of 221
10/24/09 at 12:41pm
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Originally Posted by stins View Post

Thanks for your feedback.  Any specific browser and operating system information would be much appreciated.  We'll definitely try to replicate the issues you've been seeing and fix accordingly! Again, thanks for your patience.

Christina:  For which of the issues discussed here would you like to have browser & OS info? 
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post #100 of 221
10/24/09 at 12:57pm
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Originally Posted by TonyD View Post

It's different because it's not this




 

OK, so I guess what you're saying is that this way (as illustrated above) would be easier and more user-friendly? Is so, I'm glad I asked and got some clarification, because I agree with you and would like to see something like this at the bottom of the page. But I couldn't get this at all from the way it was initially expressed.
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post #101 of 221
10/24/09 at 1:27pm
yeah, words don't work with me so well sometimes, I should have just posted a pic with my first comment.
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post #102 of 221
10/24/09 at 1:35pm

So, to sum this up for Huddler, the request is to have the navigational shortcuts at the bottom of the page be a complete mirror image of the top:



Everything in the red box should recur at the bottom of the page, but in reverse order. Right now, only the bottom line appears. We also want the top line to appear, and it should be a live link, which would allow a quick return to the current forum from the bottom of the page (among other things).

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post #103 of 221
10/24/09 at 1:40pm
perfect.
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post #104 of 221
10/24/09 at 10:10pm
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How about that forum jump/tree at the bottom of pages so we can jump back to the forum at hand without going back to the top of the page.

Its funny you mention this as it got moved up the priority list last week.  I can't give a date, but it is coming soon.
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post #105 of 221
10/25/09 at 1:01pm
Adam:  has a decision then been made on definitely keeping the pop-up forum nav as opposed to the return of the drop-down menu? 

I only ask because the above change would only be necessary if it has been decided to not return to the drop-down menu.  Because the simple click on "Go" next to the drop-down menu would serve the same function to return the user to the sub-forum index of the thread they were currently in. 
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post #106 of 221
10/25/09 at 1:56pm
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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon View Post

Adam:  has a decision then been made on definitely keeping the pop-up forum nav as opposed to the return of the drop-down menu? 

I only ask because the above change would only be necessary if it has been decided to not return to the drop-down menu.  Because the simple click on "Go" next to the drop-down menu would serve the same function to return the user to the sub-forum index of the thread they were currently in. 


Unless someone doesn't want the extra mouse movements to go Home or current subforum listing. :-p
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post #107 of 221
10/25/09 at 2:04pm
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Originally Posted by Man-Fai Wong View Post

Unless someone doesn't want the extra mouse movements to go Home or current subforum listing. :-p

Well, there'd be no extra mouse movements to go to the current subforum listing.  With the drop-down menu, you could just click "Go" and you'd go to the index page of the current subforum. 

But I guess there is still the question over which system is best for those who would want, in your hypothetical, Man, to jump to Home:  the pop-up menu or drop-down menu.  It seems to be coming down to a question of simple preference. 
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post #108 of 221
10/25/09 at 6:25pm
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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon View Post

Adam:  has a decision then been made on definitely keeping the pop-up forum nav as opposed to the return of the drop-down menu? 

I only ask because the above change would only be necessary if it has been decided to not return to the drop-down menu.  Because the simple click on "Go" next to the drop-down menu would serve the same function to return the user to the sub-forum index of the thread they were currently in. 
Thats the way I always do it in other sites and previously here too, but I just assigned ( or should that be resigned?) myself to thinking that the drop down will never return.
Edited by TonyD - 10/25/09 at 6:43pm
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post #109 of 221
10/25/09 at 10:27pm
How odd. 

I had to log-in just now when I returned to the forum (after about a half-hour absence).  This happens fairly frequently now and again.
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post #110 of 221
10/25/09 at 11:56pm
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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon View Post

Well, there'd be no extra mouse movements to go to the current subforum listing.  With the drop-down menu, you could just click "Go" and you'd go to the index page of the current subforum. 

But I guess there is still the question over which system is best for those who would want, in your hypothetical, Man, to jump to Home:  the pop-up menu or drop-down menu.  It seems to be coming down to a question of simple preference.  
 

If we get what Tony asked for, which was something I (and some others) asked for long ago, then there would be no more need to use menus just to get to the current subforum's thread listing or the top forum listing page or the Home page:

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Originally Posted by TonyD View Post

It's different because it's not this


 

It just makes perfect design and UI sense to apply a little symmetry here by duplicating that set of links at the bottom.  I would also expect it to be a rather simple change to make too -- there's certainly nothing in the HTML source (for the existing ones at the top) to suggest otherwise anyway.

Now, I'm not speaking against adding back the old dropdown.  I'm just voicing that I (and maybe some others) would much prefer not to have to use any menus at all -- dropdown or otherwise -- just to jump to those rather regularly used pages, especially since links for them already exist at the top and only needs to be duped at the bottom.

Actually, I probably wouldn't care as much about it, if the use of the browser back button isn't being obsoleted (more or less) by the software.

_Man_
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post #111 of 221
10/26/09 at 6:13am
Man:  I'm not arguing about the addition of the "tree" at the bottom of the page.  I'm all for it.  I guess the point I've been trying to make is that with the old drop-down menu--let's say you were browsing a Weekly RoundUp.  Once you got tot he bottom of the page, there would be the drop-down menu, defaulted to Bargains & Deals--since that's the sub-forum which contains the WRU.  All you'd need to do to go back to the Bargains & Deals Index page is click the "Go" button next to the menu and off you'd go. 
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Originally Posted by Man-Fai Wong View Post


Now, I'm not speaking against adding back the old dropdown.  I'm just voicing that I (and maybe some others) would much prefer not to have to use any menus at all -- dropdown or otherwise -- just to jump to those rather regularly used pages, especially since links for them already exist at the top and only needs to be duped at the bottom.

Actually, I probably wouldn't care as much about it, if the use of the browser back button isn't being obsoleted (more or less) by the software.

While it might seem easy to you and me, there must be something really complicated about it because there's been no opposition to that idea or to the addition of a forum navigation menu to the home page (both sets of code that are already written)...but they seem to be elusive, indeed. 
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post #112 of 221
10/26/09 at 8:36am
We are working on adding the breadcrumb to the bottom of the page... it's not complicated per se, we just need to find the time to do it.
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post #113 of 221
10/26/09 at 9:15am
Do we know if the "More" button bug is going to be fixed soon?

It is extremely frustrating not to be able to have the same threads keep repeating themselves every time you extend the list by clicking "more."  I don't know sometimes if my updated subscribed threads extend past the first page if I'm actually seeing those which are bumped off.  It's really confusing. 
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post #114 of 221
10/26/09 at 9:19am
Hi TonyD.  Thanks for the screen shots.  Can you let me know which browser and OS you're using?  That spinning symbol and error definitely shouldn't be there.  Thanks!

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anyone else see the spinny thing next to the word quote in the post i quoted and took a pic of?
Also the thing is spinning in the quote too.
 


Hi Man.  In terms of the "First New Post" link and other action items like "Subscribe" or "List It" attached to action items in the feed, for Firefox, IE7 and 8, Safari 4, and Chrome, these links will only appear when the user mouses over the action item.  For IE6 users, because the browser does not support this behavior, the links appear regardless of mouse over status.

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Originally Posted by Man-Fai Wong View Post

Hmmm...  Some are not able to see/get the "first new post" link consistently -- perhaps, that's an issue related to Firefox? -- while others like me are not getting the "+" sign latest posts expansion feature consistently (except on items/threads to which I haven't posted) -- perhaps, that's an issue related to IE6.

I'm just now noticing that Mike's screen grabs also don't show the "first new post" links most of the time -- and he uses Firefox.

_Man_
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post #115 of 221
10/26/09 at 10:12am
Please don't forget to to make thread-titles in the home page link to first-new-post (as it was last week before this last big update).
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post #116 of 221
10/26/09 at 3:05pm
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Originally Posted by stins View Post

Hi Man.  In terms of the "First New Post" link and other action items like "Subscribe" or "List It" attached to action items in the feed, for Firefox, IE7 and 8, Safari 4, and Chrome, these links will only appear when the user mouses over the action item.  For IE6 users, because the browser does not support this behavior, the links appear regardless of mouse over status.

 

Since the new posts count has been restored to that section of the Home page, the missing behaviors shouldn't matter too much me thinks -- it looks a bit odd (particularly the way the "+" feature only shows up for items to which I did not contribute), but I'm not really missing anything significant w/ this in IE6.  I was mainly just wondering what the behavior should actually be.

Thanks for the explanation though (and some much needed, quick fixes before)...

_Man_
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post #117 of 221
10/26/09 at 3:24pm
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Originally Posted by DaveF View Post

Please don't forget to to make thread-titles in the home page link to first-new-post (as it was last week before this last big update).
 


I second this request. "Go to first post" should be the extra link that only shows up when highlighted. The action is reversed.
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post #118 of 221
10/26/09 at 4:03pm
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Originally Posted by stins View Post

Hi TonyD.  Thanks for the screen shots.  Can you let me know which browser and OS you're using?  That spinning symbol and error definitely shouldn't be there.  Thanks!
 



Hi Man.  In terms of the "First New Post" link and other action items like "Subscribe" or "List It" attached to action items in the feed, for Firefox, IE7 and 8, Safari 4, and Chrome, these links will only appear when the user mouses over the action item.  For IE6 users, because the browser does not support this behavior, the links appear regardless of mouse over status.


 
I use latest firefox and mac os 10.4.11

Oddly that is the only place that spinning circle appeared.
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post #119 of 221
10/26/09 at 5:31pm
I guess changes were made?

Now we need to click on the thread title to go to "first new post."  Then there are hidden links to "first post" and "last post."
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post #120 of 221
10/26/09 at 5:36pm
And...I guess the bug with the "more" button to display more threads has been fixed.  The threads now seem to display correctly.  No duplicates and in correct order. 
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