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How to connect Samsung LE-40B658, Samsung HT-TZ315R and PS3 right?

post #1 of 11
10/14/09 at 1:20am
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Hi,

i'm very new in these kinda things and just bought that set above. Now i could use some help to connect them probeply.

This is how i want them to work. I would like to use 5.1 speakers with PS3 and TV also.

I have connected PS3 with hdmi to TV
home theater with hdmi to TV 

after that i only hear 5.1 when i play dvd with home theater.

Can anyone give me a simple guide how to connect all these three right so it uses the home theaher speakers all the time?

what other cables i need? I got one white red cable also and maybe some other that came with the tv and home theater.


Thanks for help already.

Henri
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post #2 of 11
10/14/09 at 4:46am
You don't want to connect any of the sources directly to the TV.  And you want to use the best connection possible. (For video: HDMI, then component (R/G/B), then composite (Y) as a last resort.  For audio: HDMI, then either optical or coax, then stereo (R/W).)  HDMI solves both problems with one connection, therefore use it if you can.

So, in your case connect the PS3 to the Samsung with HDMI.  (I was having problems with Samsung's site, so I couldn't use the manual to confirm; but another site indicated that the HT-TZ315R does have an HDMI input.)

You didn't mention how you get your TV signal, but connect that (cable box or digital converter box) to the HT-TZ315R too.  (The TV signal is the one case where you could conceivably run the connection from the TV to receiver.  But doing so sometime brings up audio delay problems, so it's usually easiest to just connect to the receiver first and then go to the TV.)
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post #3 of 11
10/14/09 at 8:59am
I suggest connecting all source components (cable/satellite box, PS3, DVD player) to the receiver, then connecting the receiver to your TV.  If all source components are connected to the receiver via HDMI then you will only need an HDMI connection to the TV.  However, in most instances, if any video component is connected using an analog format (such as component, s-video or composite), then you will need an analog connection to your TV too.
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post #4 of 11
10/14/09 at 10:00am
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Originally Posted by dguard View Post

I suggest connecting all source components (cable/satellite box, PS3, DVD player) to the receiver, then connecting the receiver to your TV.  If all source components are connected to the receiver via HDMI then you will only need an HDMI connection to the TV.  However, in most instances, if any video component is connected using an analog format (such as component, s-video or composite), then you will need an analog connection to your TV too.

I agree but don't most receivers with HDMI output to your TV either pass or upgrade the video signal from all of your video sources connected to your receiver regardless of connection type to the HDMI connection.    Under this connection your TV becomes nothing more than a monitor.
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post #5 of 11
10/14/09 at 2:41pm
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Originally Posted by CB750 View Post




I agree but don't most receivers with HDMI output to your TV either pass or upgrade the video signal from all of your video sources connected to your receiver regardless of connection type to the HDMI connection.    Under this connection your TV becomes nothing more than a monitor.
 

Component, composite and s-video are analog signals, and HDMI is a digital signal.  The receiver would need to encode the analog signal into a digital signal to make it available on the HDMI output.  This is possible, and separate devices that do this are available for hundreds of dollars.  High-end receivers, like the Denon AVR-3310CI, have analog to digital conversion, but many mid and low range receivers do not have this feature.  I suspect analog to digital encoding will be a standard feature on receivers at about the same time most source devices have converted to all digital.   
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post #6 of 11
10/19/09 at 10:41pm
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Hi,

thanks for the advices but i have few problems.. I have only one HDMI Out in PS3 and in HT-TZ315. So if i put HDMI between the receiver and PS3, i cant connect the receiver to TV with HDMI cable. Plus there is no place for the cable coming from the wall in the receiver so i have to put it straight to the TV.

There came one cord with PS3 that had three colored end and the other end of the cord was almost like HDMI but a bit bigger (dunno the name of the cord) and I put that between ps3 and the receiver. Then i put HDMI between tv and receiver and the antenna/cable cord coming from the wall i put starigt to tv. I haven't tried this yet but i'll try it when i get back home afternoon.

I think that way it could work so that i have 5.1 in ps3 and DVD's but not with TV or am i right? Any advices or improvement to that?

I have also one problem with that anytime+ (etc) that comes with samsung and makes all work with one controller.. When i put tv on and then the reveiver/DVD on so that i could hear voice through 5.1, comes the DVD screen on and if I try to take it back to TV, I cant hear or control the voice at all. TV goes mute even when the TV is on and i can see all the tv programs running there.. Why does this happen? Any samsung users who have had same problems?

Sry for my bad english in some parts.
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post #7 of 11
10/20/09 at 5:22am
Okay, this time I could negotiate the Samsung site and got the manual for the receiver/HTiB.  The bad news is it's one of those with limited functionality.  If possible, I recommend you return it and get a better receiver, one that has multiple HDMI inputs; or at the very least one that has multiple optical/digital coax inputs.  HTiBs are discouraged because of this very problem, limited connections.  If you do stay with a HTiB, look at Onkyos, they have much better functionality.

The HT-TZ315R doesn't have any video inputs.  This isn't a killer, as you can go directly to the TV with the video signal.  I just makes changing inputs a little bt harder (unless you get a universal remote).

But you only have one high quality audio connection (the optical) and one stereo input.  So you won't be able to connect both the TV and the PS3 with high quality audio.  One of them will have to come in as simple stereo. 

So just to pick one, connect the PS3 to the TV with an HDMI; and connect the PS3 to the receiver with the optical.  

Keep the wall connection to the TV as you have it; and connect the TV to the receiver with a stereo audio connection.
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post #8 of 11
10/20/09 at 6:04am
Thread Starter 
So let me know if i got this right.

HDMI between TV and PS3
HDMI between RECEIVER and TV
OPTICAL between PS3 and RECEIVER
STEREO AUDIO between RECEIVER and TV
And the wall connection to the TV like it already was.

So this way i could get those 5.1. speakers to work with PS3, TV and ofcourse with the DVD/Receiver?
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post #9 of 11
10/20/09 at 9:23am

You got it.  But one tweak, you'll have to turn off the TV sound for the PS3 in the TV configuration menu.

On the TV side, you won't get true 5.1 when using the TV, since the best a stereo connection will give you is Dolby PL.  This will give you simulated 5.1; but that's the best you're going to be able to do with your available connections.  (And hey, it's not *that* bad anyway.)

You could also switch it around and get the true 5.1 from the TV and the simulated 5.1 from the PS3. 

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post #10 of 11
10/20/09 at 10:27pm
Thread Starter 
Hey,

thanks a lot! Have to try those connections today and i'll let you know how it worked! :)
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post #11 of 11
10/21/09 at 6:33am
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Originally Posted by dguard View Post

Component, composite and s-video are analog signals, and HDMI is a digital signal.  The receiver would need to encode the analog signal into a digital signal to make it available on the HDMI output.  This is possible, and separate devices that do this are available for hundreds of dollars.  High-end receivers, like the Denon AVR-3310CI, have analog to digital conversion, but many mid and low range receivers do not have this feature.  I suspect analog to digital encoding will be a standard feature on receivers at about the same time most source devices have converted to all digital.   


 

I don't know when the last time you looked at receivers, but many low-to-mid level receivers have included analog to HDMI digital upconversion for a couple years now.  In fact, with the latest models coming out, you can say it's pretty much a standard feature. The low priced (~$400) Onkyo 607 not only upconverts from all analog sources to HDMI, it also upconverts SD to 1080i HD output.  So it is very possible to get upconversion from analog for reasonable prices today.
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