Dollhouse - season 2 - Page 2

Here's an interesting story that details how Fox can still turn a profit off Dollhouse even if it only gets a .8 rating. The bigger question is whether it is profitable enough.

The other thing though about the profitability of House reruns vs airing new episodes of Dollhouse - they'd be competing against USA that way, which already airs reruns of House on Fridays (later in the night though), but it could be possible that the USA contract precludes that or something.

Now, that's probably not the case, but on a purely curious basis, I wonder how well any other show besides House would do in the slot with reruns.  Not nearly as well, that's for sure.

It's done.  :(

 

There is a known break on Oct. 16, but Dollhouse now no longer appears on the updated advertising schedule.  So, I assume this Friday is it unless numbers are incredible.  It will either get burned off in strange times or just hold for DVD. 

Damn.

They might put them up on fox.com as well. Of course, it might make people want a DVD set more if there's 5 or 6 never-before-seen episodes on it rather than putting the remaining episodes online or random airings.

What is this Advertising Schedule that you speak of?

Don't know, but when a writer and one of the actresses are already tweeting about saving Dollhouse, it's not a good sign.

http://twitter.com/MoTancharoen/status/4658049763
http://twitter.com/Dichenlachman/status/4659725433

I think the information in this story is what Matt was referring to. It doesn't look promising for Dollhouse.

According to the schedule on my cable box, Dollhouse is still scheduled to run on October 23 (I think October 16 has a baseball playoff game shceduled). I'm sure that can change at any time but as of now, it looks like they haven't officially pulled the plug yet.

after what i have seen in these first two eps they need to pull the plug. i was going to give tonights ep one last shot.

i fell asleep on both of the previous eps and i really liked the first season.

i am not surprised at the terrible ratings at all.

I love the concept.  I think this is a great concept, I think the writing is interesting.

 

But I've got to admit: Eliza Dushku is TERRIBLE in this, if this show were helmed by a different actress, it could be so much better :(  But it isn't, and she just doesn't have the acting chops to pull this off.

Fox ran previews during the episode noting that Dollhouse is off next week, returns the following Friday, and begins some stories with Terminator's Summer Glau the week after that.

I admit that when I saw Summer's face appear on screen in the advertising, my first thought was OMG! THEY'RE BRING BACK TERMINATOR: THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES!!!!
Followed swiftly by disappointment.

I did not like tonight's episode, because I don't like movies like "Saw". I forced myself to watch the episode, and it seemed well made, but not to my tastes.

My housemates, who had never seen an episode, were getting many appropriate laughs from the clever dialogue. On that level the show was working.

I thought this episode rebounded terrifically from the last one. It's right up there with "Epitaph One" in terms of exploring the dark side of this concept. Echo has benefited from her composite event; it has made her more than simply an empty vessel. But because Topher screwed up playing with technology he didn't quite understand, Echo has been contaminated. Echo's inherent nature is decent, but as the scene inside the serial killer's playhouse made clear, she only has a limited ability to control his tendencies when in close proximity to the triggers for his sociopathy. The "goodness gracious" at the end was horribly disturbing.
I believe I read that:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

"Dollhouse" rebounds to season premiere ratings misery! Finally beats ABC repeats! (2.2 million, 1.4/3)

Considering that the show was under 2 million viewers last week, I guess this is good news, such as it is.

From Dichen Lachman (Sierra)'s Twitter:



http://twitter.com/Dichenlachman/status/4825934426

I'm glad to hear this. Despite the issues, I don't want the show to just abruptly disappear (see Defying Gravity).
 

The Hollywood Reporter has an article about it here, too: http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/10/fox-we-will-air-all-13-dollhouse-episodes.html

I'm really happy to hear this, and I'm glad the Whedon has structured the 13 episodes as a closed arc rather than the first half of a 23-episode season.

I'm also tickled by the quote from the Fox exec: "If you cancel it, you're an asshole; if you renew it and then don't put it back on, you're an asshole," he said. "I'm still paying for 'Terminator.' 'Dollhouse' has a small rabid fan base that in the world of social media seems bigger than it is. We gave them another season knowing full well we were going to burn in hell if we pulled it."

Yep it sounds like he's sleeping on the couch because of Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles being canceled. That's nice!

People will assume Dollhouse has been canceled. Whedonesque reports "We get Friday's episode, then nothing until December 6. Then, for three straight Fridays, we get back-to-back Dollhouse. (Downside: Dollhouse is out of the sweeps month entirely.)"

Si the end of October and the entire month of November has no Dollhouse.

Best to just set the Tivo to find the show, rather than keep track.

My DVR has an episode scheduled to record tomorrow and then lists another on 10/30 which says Part 1 of 2.  Are you saying the 10/30 ep. won't air until December?  Bummer.  I like this show!
Edited by Michelle Schmid - 10/23/09 at 4:26pm

Tomorrow is it, then it's off for sweeps.  When it airs in December, they will air two episodes a night.  (quickly burn off)

And that will end DH.

 

However, Joss is directing an episode in the back 9 of "Glee"

If they burned it off a little faster, they could release season 2 on dvd & blu in time for Christmas. But, not quite.

There's nine episodes left (after tonight) so unless they air it on more than just Friday night, it'll have to run into at least January. That assumes that they're skipping all of November and that there most likely won't be any episodes aired on December 25 or January 1.

I feel like this would've really be good in season 1.  I feel like a lot of people turned off because they found every character on the show entirely immoral and unlikeable, and seeing someone actually struggle with it like in tonight's episode might've helped that.

Great episode though.

I came across this article last night:
blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2009/10/dollhouse-sits-out-november-sweeps.html

I missed tonight's episode. But here's the details for what's left:

A Fox rep tells io9 that this is the airing schedule for Dollhouse between now and 2010:

Friday, Oct. 23 (tonight) - Episode 204 (9PM-10PM et/pt)
Friday, Dec. 4 - Episode 205 & 206 (Summer Glau episodes 8PM-10PM et/pt)
Friday, Dec. 11 - Episodes 207 & 208 (8PM-10PM et/pt)
Friday, Dec. 18 - Episodes 209 & 210 (8PM-10PM et/pt)

Joss says (courtesy of Whedonesque.com):

Hi guys. Lot going on.

First off, TV addict not dumb. (But you gotta get clean, man. We love you and you HAVE A PROBLEM. I'm just saying, try a book. A book about TV! Not cold turkey.)

Directing Glee. This is not a diabolical Fox scheme. This is me going "can I can I?" Did you see last night? Best cut-to-opening-credits moment since the halcyon days of BSG.

Howzabout that schedule? Well, I'm not as depressed as everyone else. We weren't about to rock sweeps anyway, and though there's a chilly November, December is CRAZY. It's like an Advent calendar of episodes! We get November to try to spread the word (which I'll be leaning on Fox to do, though it's hard to imagine them doing as good a job as the WhyIWatch guy) and then December is pure gluttony. Plus the episodes line up extremely well in these pairs, and we'll have an absurdly appropriate lead-in.

Back to breaking Tim's episode. Keep the faith, peeps. I'll bring you news (and hopefully a little humor, I mean would it kill me to punch these up a little?) when I can. -j

joss | October 22, 18:11 CET

I agreed with Keith Carradine's character when he wondered why they had any more problem with this than their normal operations. If they're willing to run a high tech brothel for rich perverts (what kind of freak must a guy be if he can't get a woman based solely on his wealth or if he wants a brainwashed woman over a willing woman?), I don't see why sending Sierra off with the neuroscience doctor bothers them at all. He was disgusting but, like Carradine said, they were sending Sierra off to a life of wealth and privilege whereas she's back to being a sperm receptacle for anyone with enough money to pay for the next couple of years. If they really cared about her, they'd free her all together.

There's the small matter of a contract and choice. The Dollhouse employees have been able to labor under the protective umbrella of choice. The dolls agreed to do these things (even though they didn't know what things they'd be doing) for a period of time in exchange for something. None of them, that we know of, agreed to do in perpetuity -- until now.
 
In theory, the Dollhouse has had responsibilities to the dolls. When the contract is over, they should be no worse off then they were before. For instance, they wouldn't let smoeone sign up to murder a doll. They wouldn't allow someone to sign up to perform a hysterectomy on a doll. Or have sex with a doll and give her HIV/AIDS. Sending a doll off to be a permanent slave isn't in the charter. The writers rightly pointed out, however, that the Dollhouse employees have long since compromised any grounds to make a moral stand.

As for what type of freak a guy must be to be unable to get a woman based solely on his wealth, I'll admit that wealth is a wonder aphrodisiac, but I'd like to think there's more to a woman than that. Perhaps there are tons of women out there these guys could get, but they don't have the qualities the guys are looking for (and that extends beyond just looks). Surely we as a society don't still buy the  notion that money buys happiness. There are plenty of wealthy guys with lots of options who call on call girls. The reasons are many, but they're valid reasons beyond "freaky". Maybe it's worth the money not to sit through an exciting discussion about the latest episode of Desperate Housewives.

It wasn't that he couldn't get a woman, it's that he couldn't get Priya/Sierra.