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post #91 of 368
Just want to get clarification on something....

So, the remains in the grave are of the guy's daughter?

 

Does that mean that something is wrong with the
Flash Forwards being shown?
 

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post #92 of 368


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Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein View Post

Just want to get clarification on something....

So, the remains in the grave are of the guy's daughter?

 

Does that mean that something is wrong with the
Flash Forwards being shown?
 



Unless that guy was lying, his daughter is dead and his flashforward is wrong. I don't think they could exhume a grave, take DNA and match it up in less than a day but that could be TV logic or it could be a hint that he changed his mind at the last minute and didn't yank her bones out of the coffin.
post #93 of 368
Well, there's another explanation, too.  The military/government could legitimately be covering up daughter's death--perhaps she really isn't dead, and the flash is right.  If that smoking tower in Somalia is any indication, there could very well be government involvement in the glboal blackout, so faking the death of a soldier isn't too hard to fathom.
post #94 of 368
^ That's a valid theory. Despite that episode seems to show that his flash was wrong, I think that all the flashes are going to happen. It's just they've misinterpreted what they saw or they don't have all the info that they'll have by the end of the season or that by trying to prevent what they saw, they'll cause it.
post #95 of 368
 I haven't been following the thread so perhaps this has already been brought up:

The flashes are a global event with a known date and time.  Given that, wouldn't there be people waiting for the flash forward moment?  Maybe even parties to ring in the flash forward?  Wouldn't the investigators be especially curious about the time surround the flash forward event?

And yet, in the flash forwards, people seem to be doing mundane things and going about their business as if they had no knowledge of the future.

Since the flash forwards did not include flashes in which people knew about the flash forwards, doesn't that indicate that the future in the flashes are not immutable?
post #96 of 368
How about this for an idea.

Even though the events of the ff were 6 months in the future, they did not happen until the moment of the actual ff.

I don't know what that means but there it is.
post #97 of 368
Co-worker told me that this show is based on a book
though much of it has been changed.

Wonder if the show will conclude as the book has
whereas someone already knows the answer to what
is happening.
post #98 of 368
I believe the author of the book is a member here. I recall seeing some of his posts in the Star Trek threads. I was thinking of buying the book and reading it to compare.

ABC Is repeating last night's episode. I wanted to see what the exhumed body resulted in myself as it wasn't clear.



post #99 of 368
I searched his name but that doesn't mean much as the search function is rather useless.
post #100 of 368
What about Demetri's fiances' FF?  She says he's in the Wedding but he sees nothing?  They make a point of not showing him in her FF but can't see her marrying someone else within 6 months of her fiance's murder on the same date they set.  No way in hell that would happen......unless she is a bad girl.
post #101 of 368

Losing interest quickly. Way to much "fill" and not enough action.

post #102 of 368
I thought, after the Nazi gave no real useful info, (apparently), that the German prison official, who didn't want him freed, should have told the Nazi, "looks like your vision was wrong" and then shot him. :D
post #103 of 368
post #104 of 368


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What about Demetri's fiances' FF?  She says he's in the Wedding but he sees nothing?  They make a point of not showing him in her FF but can't see her marrying someone else within 6 months of her fiance's murder on the same date they set.  No way in hell that would happen......unless she is a bad girl.
So far people have known what they were thinking or feeling in their FF.  So, she would appear to have been thinking she was marrying her current fiance.  So, maybe there is a conflict here.  I guess we'll have to see how it develops and see if he really gets murdered in March.  His murder possibly is the one that the Nazi refers to in his FF?
post #105 of 368


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What about Demetri's fiances' FF?  She says he's in the Wedding but he sees nothing?  They make a point of not showing him in her FF but can't see her marrying someone else within 6 months of her fiance's murder on the same date they set.  No way in hell that would happen......unless she is a bad girl.


Once again, the FFs are evidence without context.  She says she's on the beach and that she sees him.  But she only sees that two minute (or less, some flashes seem confused) slice of her life.  She knows what she is thinking and feeling in that moment she is crossing the sand, but not what comes before or after it.  For all we know we are seeing Dimitri's funeral - the men up ahead are waiting for her so they can scatter his ashes on what would have been their wedding day.  As she approaches, she thinks about what she would have felt and thought if she'd been walking towards the marriage instead, indulging in a bit of fantasy.  Out of context, she'd have no way of telling the difference. 

 

Regards,

 

Joe
 

post #106 of 368


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So far people have known what they were thinking or feeling in their FF.  So, she would appear to have been thinking she was marrying her current fiance.  So, maybe there is a conflict here.  I guess we'll have to see how it develops and see if he really gets murdered in March.  His murder possibly is the one that the Nazi refers to in his FF?
the murder was proabably a reference to the crows, who may have been murdered by whatever the anomoly is or that a group of crows is a "murder".

post #107 of 368
Starting to loose interest after the latest ep.
post #108 of 368


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Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein View Post

Co-worker told me that this show is based on a book
though much of it has been changed.

Wonder if the show will conclude as the book has
whereas someone already knows the answer to what
is happening.
The tv show is based on the book by Toronto SF writer Robert J Sawyer.  In the book the cause for the flash is immediately known. 

post #109 of 368
Pretty slow episode IMO. If the central story arc is only going to be about what (or who) caused the flash and what happens in the future on "flash" day, then I don't see how ABC expects to ride this out for more than a season or two. The "mystery" is not very compelling and none of the lead characters are particularly interesting of even likable. Maybe with the introduction of Simon, things will pick up, but this program has been heading south for me since the (decent enough) pilot.
post #110 of 368


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Pretty slow episode IMO. If the central story arc is only going to be about what (or who) caused the flash and what happens in the future on "flash" day, then I don't see how ABC expects to ride this out for more than a season or two. The "mystery" is not very compelling and none of the lead characters are particularly interesting of even likable. Maybe with the introduction of Simon, things will pick up, but this program has been heading south for me since the (decent enough) pilot.

Based on interviews, the producers claim to have mapped out a 5-season story arc (which they've shared with ABC). Not sure what comes in Seasons 2-5, as they're supposed to reach the flash-forward date by the end of this first season.
post #111 of 368
Maybe they don't fully realize who caused the flash forward until then. There's still finding out what organization they work for, tracking them down, trying to prevent future events, etc. There's no reason there can't be another flash forward. I just don't get the feeling the series is boxed in.
post #112 of 368
Indeed Mikah. I enjoyed this episode the most, next to the pilot.  Finally some reveals and the last shot was great to see.
post #113 of 368
so far the last few eps have been a ore for me and nothing important happens until the last 30 seconds when something interesting is shown.

all the melodrama and soap opera for the first 59 minutes isn't doing anything for me.
post #114 of 368
I wonder what the babysitter and the Priest are doing in their FF, is he baptizing her or is he trying to drown her?  Well, come to think of it, she felt she was being drowned so that rules out baptizim correct?
post #115 of 368
Finally caught up with the show, and do find it interesting so far!
post #116 of 368
 Yeah..It's pretty good.

One silly plot thing though...they go on about people and things being important because they were 'seen' pinned to the board.
And yet he pins them to the board BEFORE he checks them out.  So actually the board proves little as the things are on there before they are even checked as being important.

Surely it would be best to actually pin the names/leads on the board AFTER they have been checked out?
post #117 of 368
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Surely it would be best to actually pin the names/leads on the board AFTER they have been checked out?
 


Since he saw that board in the future, he must pin the names up there at some point so I guess he sees no reason to wait.
post #118 of 368
 Well....Take the Nazi.

They initially thought that he had stiffed them.  And they had let a war criminal go for no reason.
And if that had been true...the only reason he would have been able to fool them was because they went to him in the first place.
And the only reason they did that was because of the board...so why not check the leads out first, and then stick them on the boad only when they have checked out.
Otherwise...they could indeed have let a Nazi go for no reason.

Check before you stick it up I say!
post #119 of 368


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 Well....Take the Nazi.

Please!  /Henny Youngman 

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They initially thought that he had stiffed them.  And they had let a war criminal go for no reason.
And if that had been true...the only reason he would have been able to fool them was because they went to him in the first place.
And the only reason they did that was because of the board...so why not check the leads out first, and then stick them on the boad only when they have checked out.
Otherwise...they could indeed have let a Nazi go for no reason.

Check before you stick it up I say!

I guess they figure if the lead was no good, they would have removed it from the board long ago.

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I wonder what the babysitter and the Priest are doing in their FF, is he baptizing her or is he trying to drown her?  Well, come to think of it, she felt she was being drowned so that rules out baptizim correct?

Not necessarily.  She could be having a form of panic attack.  It's like if you've ever been at the bottom of a pool and you suddenly run out of air and are desperate to get to the surface.  Even if you get there quickly, it feels like a longer amount of time and you think you're drowning.  It could be something like that.  Could be.  Or, maybe she really is being murdered.

post #120 of 368

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Originally Posted by 42nd Street Freak View Post

They initially thought that he had stiffed them.  And they had let a war criminal go for no reason.
And if that had been true...the only reason he would have been able to fool them was because they went to him in the first place.
And the only reason they did that was because of the board...so why not check the leads out first, and then stick them on the boad only when they have checked out.
Otherwise...they could indeed have let a Nazi go for no reason.

Check before you stick it up I say!
 


The flashforward is influencing the future but IF the future is set then that's the way it had to happen to get to that point anyway.

While speaking of the Nazi, I find it impossible to buy that the feds were so dumb that they didn't specify that the Nazi had to give useful information in order to be freed. What reason did he have to give them real information?
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