Flash Forward - season 1 - Page 5

Kind of bothered me that the Senator's nameplate said Jean and everyone was calling her Joyce.

Also, if the female agent does die, this could possibly be the first instance of someone's flash forward changing their future, because had it not been for the argument based on the flash forwards, she might've been with the girlfriend or something.
Edited by Joe_H - 10/22/09 at 7:41pm

This was a better ep than the last.  Strange choice of music for the end though.

The first thing that came to mind is that the people who were doing the shooting are deliberately trying to make sure things are changed in the future from the flash forwards possibly by targeting certain people who posted on mosaic. 

I doubt Janis dies from her GSW because I'm still clinging to my current understanding of this show that the future can't be changed.

Same here. Plus, I would think that everyone involved with this show has seen the slippery slope that Heroes fell down with too much changing the past and future.

Well, it's either the future was changed, and she dies, or the future doesn't change, and this is what leads her to want to have a baby, I haven't decided which I think yet.

But still, my point was just that it COULD be the first point where it changes.  

Sorry, but the ending was just HORRIBLE.

Awful choice of music playing to an over-the-top
unbelievably true sequence of our heroes being
able to jump out the car as a grenade is launched
at their vehicle, survive, come together in a rallying
shootout and not get killed.

It is this kind of crap that ruins shows for people.
I expect this kind of stuff happening to Jack Bauer
in "24" but I was hoping this show would take itself
a little more seriously than force-hand us that
awful sequence. 

This show just went down several notches in my book.

Totally agree! And the parking garage scene was a total cheat! Do they really expect us to buy the guys not only all got out of the car, but got far enough away so that none of them were touched by the grenade rocket that torched the car?!?!?

Come on! What a hackneyed action sequence execution meant to elicit suspense. I burst out laughing.

Oh and with the girl. The assassin has already hit her once, has her dead to rights, and instead of finishing her off, he takes off and tries to run away? Second guffaw in a row.

Brutal, just plain brutal.

Goodbye FF. If you are not to going play honest, so be it.

I am moving on.

Honestly, thought the premise of the show was decent,
it hasn’t been very good.  It's no LOST that's for sure.

I was just hoping for something intelligent in this show.

I will keep watching until Fall Season really kicks in.  At
that point I will pick and choose the most important 
shows to watch and I bet FLASH FORWARD won't be it.

I am going to try 'V" in another week though something
tells me that's going to be a letdown as well.

 

Ahhh...But there lies the neverending circle rub.
What if he never removed them from the board (even if false leads) purely because he still saw them on the board in his flashforward.
Hence they are still on the board in the future, even though they were false.

My brain hurts.

I think all the leads on his board are good, and everyones FF comes true.

Either this show is really losing steam, or fewer people are participating in the discussions here lately.  Last night's was better than recent episodes, which is what happens when characters start dealing with the elephant in the room instead of dancing around it.  The train scene was kind of nowhere.  I didn't really like the double entendres, but that's just me.  But, the scene could have been cut and Charlie could have just popped up in the car and it would have had the same effect.

I liked seeing Charlie at the beginning, it made it more shocking when he mentioned causing the blackouts.  At the beginning made him seem that he was investigating it but had nothing to do with it.

I still like the show, but I thought the resolution of the fight with his wife seemed forced.  We all knew it was coming, but at the same time, the way that it happened didn't feel right.   He accuses her of something, she accuses him of doing the same thing, and then all of a sudden it's over and she's done with him.

Still, it's pretty good.  I'd say it's the best new drama that I'm watching this year, but it seems it's the only new drama that I'm watching this year.  I enjoy it more than I've been enjoying Fringe on the same night this year though.

Wasn't Charlie shown to be involved last week?  I barely even remembered the scene until the end of this one.  I didn't like the kids who Mark was chasing, because I knew as soon as the chase began that it was a coincidence and it's hard to believe three men in the same masks will attack him later.

I'm loving Fringe.  :)

I don't remember, but it's possible we "learned" Charlie was involved last week only due to previews. And just in case anyone doesn't know why we keep calling Dominic Monaghan "Charlie" that was his character's name on Lost. I'm sure he can live with it though. For awhile there, he probably thought he'd always be "Merry" from Lord of the Rings. His character name on Flash Forward is Simon, which we'll all forget in about 5 minutes and call him Charlie again.

^ I'm nearly positive that Charlie/Monaghan had an uncredited cameo at the very end of last week's episode where he said he that he caused the blackout.

Ya.  That's why I could do without the pointless train scene (which, of course, could be pointful later a la the bus episode (which I enjoyed at the time it aired (and which is another Lost reference))) and just have skipped to the Frankenstein scene.

Apparently I must've missed that in last week's episode then. 

It was actually the week before (10/15) when we saw him call about that and then last week I don't think he appeared.  From the summary over at ABC, he says, "Talking to me is just one of those little inconveniences you’re going to have to put up with now that we’re responsible for the single greatest disaster in human history."  I am glad that at the moment it appears to have been a scientific experiment and that Lloyd Simcoe might not be the "bad" that I thought he was after Simon uttered the line above.  There is more than meets the eye going on.

I think this show stinks.
After 6 episodes nothing has happened.

All we get is a bunch of soap opera for 59 minutes then 1 minute of something teasing us about the FF.

twice in the last 3 eps dominic monahan has appeared and both of his wow  revalations have been the same thing.

Both times it's him talking to Lloyd and them saying "we caused this ff that killed millions of people".

Is it just me or are a lot of these complaints sounding like the same things some people say about Lost again?   Too slow, barely answering any questions, too much character drama, lost steam, etc.? 

not from me, Lost was interesting from the beginning, even if there was not a lot of answers coming at least the characters were fun and interesting.
Also things were happening on Lost. nothing happens on this show.
Is there anyone on this show that anyone cares about besides the babysitter.

I'm not going to stop watching, I just wish the show had better story development.

Huh?  The babysitter?  She barely even registers with me.  I was kind of interested in what would drive the marriage apart, but it's not as interesting when we know the guy involved is part of the FF event.

Like you, I liked Lost through thick and thin.  There was never a time I was complaining about that particular show, and it's been better than ever lately.

I know what you're saying but I never had those complaints about Lost and I do have them about Flashforward.

While I intend to stick with the show until at least the end of the season, I think my biggest gripe is that this is that they treat the audience as if they're all stupid or can't remember things from week to week. You can have only seen the pilot, missed a bunch of episodes and then watch this week's episode and you'll have no problem keeping up with the main story because they repeat and spoonfeed old information to the audience (we get it, Charlie is bad and he helped cause the blackout). I understand that the producers and ABC want to make sure that everyone can follow the story but they keep repeating information (how many times can I see the main characters' flashforwards- they even repeat them in the same episode) so that even the person who occasionally tunes can easily keep up with the story. While that's nice for the casual viewer, it's frustrating for someone who 'bothers' to tune in to see the story that they're telling.
Edited by TravisR - 11/1/09 at 7:37am

I was happy to see more of the other FBI agents this week. I still can't tell you anyones name on the show but I do like both of those guys.

The break up seems a little forced but I guess it had to happen somehow.

The one thing that I am not happy about is that they never seem to show how screwed up the world is now. If we had just had a Flashforward and 20 million people had died I can't believe that in just a couple of weeks in would be life as normal again.

Well, I'm enjoying it :)

Also, I didn't see any "break-up" per se, just an extremely rough spot for Mark and Olivia.  I'm going to take one of the suggestions from waaaay back in LOST season 1 thread, and use characters' names, and look them up when I forget--I can still remember everyone using nicknames for the first handful of episodes (the fat guy, the hick, the doctor, the asians, the creepy white dude [lol!]), like we were all Sawyer or something :)

For some reason the only characters' names that I remember on this show are Demetri and D. Gibbons.

 I have to agree with Tony D.

Hope I don't get pounced on.

This show is going nowhere fast.  More of a soap opera
from week to week -- sort of like the middle season of 
LOST where the show was just buying some time.

LOST can get away with such lag in its third season
but FLASH FORWARD shouldn't be in its first.

I should have dropped out after the unbelievable shootout
sequence.  I am giving this show one last episode since
its being touted as "the one I must see"  (according to
the previews).  If there is nothing intriguing enough for
me to stick around then I am going to move on to 
something else.

I caught up on the past five weeks shows this week (hurrah, Tivo). I still enjoy it, even despite the horrendous musical choices.

I realized that the problems I have with these shows, Heroes, FlashForward, even Lost, is the progression of the hyper-fractured storyline. It was X-Files that got me interested in the mythic-arc storyline. It was DS9 and Buffy that showed me how much fun the season-long story could be. But those were all essentially single-story episodes; perhaps two in the case of Star Trek. But the move has been to tell increasingly complex and interwoven stories, with increasingly unmanageable numbers of characters and sub-stories. FlashForward, while not as bad as Heroes, suffers this fate of needing to tell about four stories per episode.

Still, I like it. I like the characters. There's still a fresh feeling to that differs from other episodic shows.