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Attention: If you joined through FACEBOOK . . .

post #1 of 20
9/21/09 at 8:53am
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People who joined HTF through Facebook should have this following message at the top of their profile page (unless they've already made a selection):
 

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Enable email or go to your profile and enter your email address

Please take a moment to check your profile and either "enable" email (follow the link in your profile) or enter a separate email address. Rule 2 of the HTF Rules provides as follows:

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 2. Valid email. All members must supply a valid email address when they register. Your email address will not be visible to other members, and we will not share it with anyone, but it is essential that we have a reliable method of contacting you. It is each member's responsibility to keep the email address associated with his or her HTF account valid and up to date. If we try to contact a member by email and the email is returned as undeliverable, the account will be suspended until the member contacts us. 

We have recently discovered that many people joining through Facebook are not even enabling email, which means that Facebook will not deliver emails sent to the Facebook proxy server. This makes those members effectively unreachable and, under Rule 2, requires their suspension. So please take a moment to bring yourself into compliance with Rule 2 so that we don't have to suspend any accounts. Thank you!

(We're currently working on a tighter form of integration so that there's less chance that people joining through Facebook will overlook this step. Stay tuned.)
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post #2 of 20
9/21/09 at 8:52pm
Michael is there a way to see if someone is a Facebook User versus a 'native'?

On one hand I suspect a lot of the spammers I've been reporting have been coming in via Facebook.

On the other I don't suppose we want these FBers being treated like second class citizens.

Sam
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post #3 of 20
9/21/09 at 9:16pm
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I'm probably more involved in the day-to-day removal of spammers than anyone at HTF, and I cannot recall a single one arriving via Facebook. So your suspicions are unfounded.

And yes, at the administrative level, Huddler and the owners know by what route people arrive here, because it's part of their business to know that. It's also part of their business to make sure that information remains secure and unshared.
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post #4 of 20
9/21/09 at 9:28pm
Thanks, hadn't realised, rectified on my account.

While we're on the subject of facebook-linked accounts, I read the faq on changing my profile pic/avatar image, but I have no "replace image" button underneath my picture in my profile page. Is it true that I can't have a different profile pic here unless I change my facebook picture or perhaps unlink my accounts (I hope that's possible).

Ben
Edited by Ben Parker - 9/21/09 at 9:40pm
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post #5 of 20
1/26/10 at 5:48am
I'm curious about it the other way around. Long time HTF'er, now with Facebook account. Is there any benefit to joining HTF in Facebook over what the normal website offers?

I'm still wrapping my head around these "social web" things. :)
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post #6 of 20
1/26/10 at 6:32am
Stick with HTF accounts.  When people move on past Facebook like they have every other fad HTF will still be here....  =)
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post #7 of 20
1/26/10 at 3:31pm
In my experience, no. You have the option of letting all your facebook friends know every time you make a post on HTF; so you can select "publish to facebook wall," if you want.
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post #8 of 20
1/26/10 at 6:48pm


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Originally Posted by Ben Cheshire View Post

In my experience, no. You have the option of letting all your facebook friends know every time you make a post on HTF; so you can select "publish to facebook wall," if you want.
That would not be a good thing, and quickly lose me all my FB friends :)

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post #9 of 20
1/26/10 at 6:56pm
 I agree with Dave. I do NOT want any of my facebook friends, and or co-workers seeing what i say on here. I am a big enough geek as it is.
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post #10 of 20
1/27/10 at 3:15am
I don't see any match between "discussion forum" and "facebook". But I thought the FB page might target "social" things. Announce and organize HTF-meets. Major PR announcements. Specific, interesting essays from the owners.
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post #11 of 20
4/5/10 at 11:24pm
The convenience is basically an easier way to join other sites, since you use your existing login. In the case of the HTF, it's particularly cohesive since Facebook is one of the few social networking sites that developed a protocol of using real names and HTF is one of the few web forums that enforces using real at least first names.
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post #12 of 20
4/6/10 at 10:39am
And for those of us who have been on the so called internet since before a great many of these whippersnappers were born, that move is a terrific miscarriage of sociopolitical BS over engineering and god given freedoms.  I'm just saying.  It ain't progress.
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post #13 of 20
4/6/10 at 11:03am
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Originally Posted by Adam Lenhardt View Post

The convenience is basically an easier way to join other sites, since you use your existing login. In the case of the HTF, it's particularly cohesive since Facebook is one of the few social networking sites that developed a protocol of using real names and HTF is one of the few web forums that enforces using real at least first names.

So a newcomer can join HTF via Facebook, without needing a whole new name / password? That's appealing. I've got far too many logins / passwords. Having a unified system would make life simpler :)
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post #14 of 20
4/6/10 at 11:49am
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Originally Posted by DaveF View Post

So a newcomer can join HTF via Facebook, without needing a whole new name / password? That's appealing. I've got far too many logins / passwords. Having a unified system would make life simpler :)

And less secure!  1 point of failure, 1 attack vector compromises all your memberships.  Grumble grumble, I'll be in the back with the rest of the greybeards...

Don't even get me started on 1Password..

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post #15 of 20
4/6/10 at 4:56pm
For normal people, that already attempt to have a constant username and password for every site, the risks are not increased.

And the risk of my HTF account being compromised? It would be a nuisance, sure, but no real damage would be done to my life. There's no connection between these social sites and email account, bank accounts, etc.
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post #16 of 20
4/6/10 at 5:56pm
Yet.
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post #17 of 20
4/6/10 at 6:59pm
I'll burn that bridge when I get to it.
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post #18 of 20
6/29/10 at 6:33am

I don't know that this (Private User) (FB User) bug has been solved. My account has been bugged ever since I:

 

1) joined through facebook

2) unlinked my account

 

I then thought the problem was resolved when we relinked my accounts, with help from the folks who run the platform and the forum's owners; but it seems like it hasn't.

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post #19 of 20
6/30/10 at 12:33am

It's nothing that can be done from here. (Perhaps the Huddler programmers could device a way "around" it but that could be a serious change to the software/database. Also, it could be argued that they would have created a way to "circumvent" a FB privacy restriction.)

 

*Some* setting in Facebook forces the username to look like Facebook User (Private), or perhaps it's even simply caused by being off-line there. I don't know.

 

And thanks, Ben, for whatever you did to make your name visible again here!

 

 

Cees

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post #20 of 20
7/3/10 at 10:27pm

All i did since you contacted me was log into my facebook and log into HTF again. Perhaps being logged out of facebook when you don't visit for a month or so is what causes me every few months to appear here as FB User (or whatever).

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