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But yeah, I get that also (as usual).


well it starts again, now Fantasia/Fantasia 2000 are no longer Diamond Editions? my question is why release Sleeping Beauty, Pinoccho, only to turn around and remarked again in blu, that is going to be a hard sale to pull off, sort of doing the same with the up comming toy story set
Maybe I'm late to the party, but what does it matter what title is labeled with what "special" moniker? Is Disney leaving features off or somehow degrading the discs that aren't Diamond Edition's or whatever? Frankly, they've had enough special labels over the years I'd be content with Disney just releasing the freaking movies already.
well the diamond edition was supposedly going to be more in line to the true film enthusist, like the fantaisa anthology box set, or toy story's complete box set, from ultimate disney, some upcomming features that were scheduled for this but are not there are here is the statement
http://www.dvdizzy.com/index.html
as you can see some differences there, i agree, all i really want is the films in the best possible presentation, inccluding some that i know wont see the light of day ( Song of the South) and i want them unedited as the premiered, i know we all come here and discuss, gripe, and praise the studios for goood and bad releases, from laser to vhs, to the start of dvd, the monikers change. how many re-releases, double and triple dips from all the studios, all i am saying is if this isnt part of "this so called Preimer Line" what goes in to replace it? Newer disney, the post 1980's animation revival, or classic Disney, just waiting to see how this works out.
I think we're getting a good amount of Disney stuff in the second part of the year as it is right now. There's Beauty and the Beast, Toy Story 3 plus the two Fantasia movies. There's also the "SE" of Black Cauldron. Those are just the "classics," too, not counting live action or direct to DVD.
The Fantasia World feature...yeah...apparently it's not going to be on there. With the insane lead time Disney had between the initial press release and then the actual specs, maybe something came up and it couldn't be included. We don't know what happened to knock the release down a peg and most likely never will know. Maybe it was a matter of not enough resources or the potential profits not being high enough. Who knows. Am I upset about it? Eh, a little, not much, to be honest.
I'm disappointed that with all of today's technology, they can't add in the new narrator's voice and smooth it in with the surviving Deems Taylor tracks. Maybe soon, they can use the new technology whereby a computer recognizes sentences and creates new words based on that voice (Roger Ebert is using it.) They could at least have included the 1990 cut....but then again, it doesn't look like this is being billed as a definitive edition of the film. Maybe in 5 (or in Disney years 7-10) years.

I'm disappointed that with all of today's technology, they can't add in the new narrator's voice and smooth it in with the surviving Deems Taylor tracks. Maybe soon, they can use the new technology whereby a computer recognizes sentences and creates new words based on that voice (Roger Ebert is using it.) They could at least have included the 1990 cut....but then again, it doesn't look like this is being billed as a definitive edition of the film. Maybe in 5 (or in Disney years 7-10) years.
Better yet, they couldn't just have searched for a person who can do Deems Taylor's voice, instead of getting rid of his voice altogether?
The lack of bonus features is a disappointment, especially when you consider there's already so much good stuff out there. We were finally going to get the Destino short, yet that turend out too good to be true. I don't believe it's because of scheduling issues, because Disney could've chosen to bring it out on a later date. With all the confusion it would hardly matter.
I'm also disappointed that the Pastorale segment is still cut, but it's to expect from Disney.
Didn't the 2000 DVD release of "Fantasia" do just that, i.e., have Corey Burton re-dubbing most of, or all of, Deems Taylor's lines? (I don't own it so I can't compare with my VHS copy, which, sadly, is all I have for Fantasia....and one of the reasons I'm so keen to get "Fantasia" on Blu).
Corey is an outstanding mimic. If the original DT tracks are no longer usable, the next best thing is to use the Corey Burton track from 2000, I'd say.
(Of course, what do I know, I'm not an industry insider). :)
cheers,
Phil

Didn't the 2000 DVD release of "Fantasia" do just that, i.e., have Corey Burton re-dubbing most of, or all of, Deems Taylor's lines? (I don't own it so I can't compare with my VHS copy, which, sadly, is all I have for Fantasia....and one of the reasons I'm so keen to get "Fantasia" on Blu).
Corey is an outstanding mimic. If the original DT tracks are no longer usable, the next best thing is to use the Corey Burton track from 2000, I'd say.
(Of course, what do I know, I'm not an industry insider). :)
cheers,
Phil
I meant that they could hire an impersonator to fill in the lost bits, and still retain the audio of Deems Taylor's voice that survives. What Disney has done now, is getting rid of Taylor's voice completely, and have Corey Burton re-voice it completely. Re-dubbing was necessary because some bits are missing, but to remove his voice while the rest of the bits still survive is wrong.
Whoops. That's uncool. I find it tough to believe the ENTIRE Taylor track is unusable. I guess they were trying to avoid any difference in the voice from one line to the next, because otherwise the logic escapes me. I'd bet the vast majority of the public wouldn't have noticed a thing, partially dubbed or no partially dubbed.
cheers,
Phil