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HD Audio Delay

post #1 of 6
Thread Starter 
Hi everyone, longtime HTF member here with a first time question about my (recently set up) home theater.

I apologize for posting a topic that sounds similar to other topics posted here, but my problem/issue is not regarding audio/video sync issues, but instead a delay before the TrueHD or DTS-MA audio track kicks in, depriving me of sound for the first moments of a film. 

Player: Samsung BD4600
Receiver: Onkyo TX-SR606
TV: Samsung UN55B7000

My receiver can decode TrueHD and DTSMA.  I can confirm this, because the receiver's display lights up 'True HD' and 'DTSMSTR.'  When a film or program first begins, there is a slight 'click' as the receiver switches over, a moment of silence from the receiver and then a 1-2 second delay before the HD audio kicks in. 

In essense, I see the first few moments of the film without sound.  Once the sound kicks in, there are no syncing problems, but the sound delay itself is my issue.  This is normally not a problem with most films, but a few films ('Wall E' comes to mind) start with sound immediately out of the gate, and I'm missing a good 2-3 seconds of the opening audio.  Again, most films don't contain any real sound for the first few seconds, but movies like Wall E make this delay really noticeable.

Again, I did a pretty exhaustive forum search before posting this topics, and I apologize in advance if this has been covered before.  Most of the other HD audio delay threads seem to concern sync issues, not the brief moment of silence before the receiver clicks and starts decoding the HD audio.

Anyone have some insight on correcting this problem?  I've considered pausing the film the moment in starts, giving the receiver time to 'catch up' then restarting once I see the 'True HD' light come on.

My thanks and regards,

 

JY

post #2 of 6
Find the menu in your Onkyo that deal with Listening Mode Presets.  Each source will have its own.  Choose something other than "last valid" and your issues should be solved.

Sorry for not being more precise but I'm not near my AVR at the moment (and who wants to RTM).    It should not be hard to find....
post #3 of 6
Thread Starter 
I really appreciate the response, David.  Unfortunately, this is not where the problem lies.  My listening preset settings on the Onkyo were already changed from 'last valid' to 'direct' before I began experiencing this problem.  I may explore the listening presets options more (there aren't too many more options other than 'last valid' and 'direct,' unfortunately).

I appreciate your time.

Regards,

JY
post #4 of 6
I believe 'direct' will give you the same delays.  Choose something different - you can match DD for DD, DTS for DTS, etc., but you have to choose or it will cause these dropouts.
post #5 of 6
There's always going to be some amount of delay as it's changing audio formats between the menu & the movie, and it takes a bit of time for the receiver to recognize that.  Maybe you'd have better luck with decoding in the player, set it for PCM out, then the receiver wouldn't have to change modes.  All you miss is the "TrueHD" light on the receiver, no big deal.

Can also hunt around for firmware upgrades for the Onkyo, to see if they make the format switch faster, but be very cautious especially with the unsupported ones floating around, if you're not sure what you're doing, it's not worth accidentally bricking the receiver over such a minor issue.
post #6 of 6
Thread Starter 
Thanks everyone for your responses.  Those are some really practical suggestions and advice.  I will try tweaking my listening mode settings on the amp.  I may also try going back to PCM on the player.  I had my BD player set to PCM prior to this, and the downside was, it was getting unclear whether the HD audio was even getting passed through.  I wanted some consistency between what I was hearing and what the receiver told me I was hearing - although to quote an oft-quoted song, 'you can't always get what you want.'  :)

When I see DPLIIx or DDEX or some other mode on the receiver after having set the audio to TrueHD on the movie disc, I begin to doubt whether or not the audio I am hearing is actually 'TrueHD' or the DTS equivalent.  Maybe some 'trust your ears' advice is in order.  I know PS3 owners have faced this same issue, and I know it's related to setting 'PCM' and trusting that the receiver is passing it through, despite no display that indicates as such.
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