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post #1 of 165
8/24/09 at 6:01am
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 It's confirmed:  Apple to release Snow Leopard on August 28
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post #2 of 165
8/24/09 at 6:31am
It's in the back rooms at Best Buy and other retailers already...
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post #3 of 165
8/24/09 at 12:00pm
Guess it's worthwhile to pre-order for me and try again to pre-order my wife's up-to-date copy.
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post #4 of 165
8/24/09 at 12:46pm
 I ordered my regular copy this morning for my laptop. But when I tried to order my up to date copy for my Mac Pro it said it couldn't verify my S/N.  I called Apple and while they could find my S/N, they couldn't get the website to take it.  I ended up having to fill out the form and fax it in.  Hey, for $9.95 I'm not complaining.  This weekend should be a lot of fun!!!!

Don
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post #5 of 165
8/24/09 at 3:44pm
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Gonna play this one conservatively. I'll upgrade one of my machines, but there are a few apps I need that haven't been ported over to Universal binaries (hello Intuit) yet. Since I don't want to install the Rosetta architecture with Snow Leopard, I'll have to hold off on upgrading that machine.
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post #6 of 165
8/24/09 at 7:02pm
Ordered single user for my MBP. Asked my wife to place up-to-date order for her iMac. Hope it arrives before my vacation.
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post #7 of 165
8/24/09 at 7:31pm
 I am going to hold off a bit myself. I want to hear how the $29 upgrade disc is going to work.

The last upgrade disc I got from Apple was a 10.3 upgrade for 10.2. It required that 10.2 be installed on the target system. A disc check wasn't an option. If the 10.6 upgrade is the same way (requiring 10.5 to be installed), I will probably try and sell my 10.5 Mac Pack and purchase a 10.6 Mac Pack to get a non-upgrade install. 

I mess around with my system enough that I don't want to have to install 10.5 first, then 10.6 every time the OS needs to be reinstalled.

-Keith
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post #8 of 165
8/24/09 at 7:39pm
Wife's Up to Date is ordered. We had problems because we forgot that we bought it under my AppleID, but we trying to buy SL with my wife's ID. Apple's website doesn't explain if the AppleID is wrong so we took a while to figure it out.
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post #9 of 165
8/25/09 at 7:29am
 I went ahead and ordered for it to be here on Friday. Don't know if I really need it but for $29, I'll take my chances....
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post #10 of 165
8/25/09 at 10:07am

Any word on compatibility problems? I don't want to install 10.6 if it's going to break important things, like Parallels or my Logitech mouse drivers.

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post #11 of 165
8/25/09 at 10:16am
I also ordered for Friday, but Keith brings up something I didn't think of.  Does anyone know if this disc allows a clean install in the future?  It would really annoy me if I had to install 10.5 first if I just wanted to start from scratch.
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post #12 of 165
8/25/09 at 12:01pm
Wondering the same thing; but it seems not. This is specifically an upgrade from 10.5. If you're still on 10.4 or earlier,  you have to buy 10.5 in addition to 10.6
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post #13 of 165
8/25/09 at 12:12pm
Probably better to buy the box set if that's the case.
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post #14 of 165
8/25/09 at 12:21pm
For upgraders tho, Amazon has it $5 off, free ship if you spend a penny more:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001AMHWP8/ref=ox_ya_os_product?tag=slickdeals#productPromotions
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post #15 of 165
8/25/09 at 1:02pm
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Originally Posted by Sam Posten View Post

Probably better to buy the box set if that's the case.

Why, if you already have 10.5? Just don't throw away that install DVD.
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post #16 of 165
8/25/09 at 1:35pm
You said you'd have to buy 10.5

In that case you probably don't have the latest ilife or iwork either.

Tho I'd personally wait to see if a new box set materializes in early september...
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post #17 of 165
8/25/09 at 1:48pm
Interesting or perhaps overblown:
http://gizmodo.com/5345382/snow-leopard-has-hidden-antivirus-talents
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post #18 of 165
8/25/09 at 2:38pm
I misunderstood. I thought you had 10.5 already and were buying the full set to simplify a later reinstall.

If you don't have 10.5, the box set is a good deal. I upgraded to iLife & iWork 09 last month, but now I wish I'd waited. However, there was indications there wouldn't be a SL box set. Oh well, not a big financial setback :)

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Originally Posted by Sam Posten View Post

You said you'd have to buy 10.5

In that case you probably don't have the latest ilife or iwork either.

Tho I'd personally wait to see if a new box set materializes in early september...
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post #19 of 165
8/25/09 at 5:25pm
An upgrade disc probably still has the option to do an erase and install. The 10.3 upgrade disc that I mentioned had this option. Once it saw 10.2 was installed, you could select an option erase the HD and install 10.3.

So hopefully, a clean install with still be an option with the 10.6 disc. The $64,000 question is will 10.5 have to be physically installed on the machine first or will having 10.5 install DVD be enough.

-Keith
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post #20 of 165
8/25/09 at 6:29pm
Dave, you misunderstood me.  I was wondering about being able to just plain reinstall 10.6 from scratch with the upgrade discs.  With what you are saying, I would first have to install 10.5 from regular install discs (which I have) then upgrade it to 10.6, which is a huge and pointless hassle.  If Keith is correct and I am reading properly, I could take a machine that already has 10.6 (or 10.5 I suppose), erase the HD and start a new install of 10.6 from scratch.  Funny I was completely unaware of the "Upgrade" discs vs a full new install package.  I guess that is why it was only $29.
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post #21 of 165
8/25/09 at 7:15pm
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Originally Posted by JohnRice View Post

Dave, you misunderstood me.  I was wondering about being able to just plain reinstall 10.6 from scratch with the upgrade discs.  With what you are saying, I would first have to install 10.5 from regular install discs (which I have) then upgrade it to 10.6, which is a huge and pointless hassle.  If Keith is correct and I am reading properly, I could take a machine that already has 10.6 (or 10.5 I suppose), erase the HD and start a new install of 10.6 from scratch.  Funny I was completely unaware of the "Upgrade" discs vs a full new install package.  I guess that is why it was only $29.
That is what I meant: if you erased your harddrive for a clean install, you would then have to first install 10.5 from Leopard DVD and then upgrade to 10.6 from Snow Leopard disk. But I'm working from only a cursory reading of blogs/news, so it could be quite different. Or you meant something different by "clean install" than I understood.

With Bootcamp / Parallels installed, I'm wary of the wipe and reinstall option: I don't like having to reinstall and reactivate Windows. So I'll do the upgrade option.
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post #22 of 165
8/26/09 at 12:19pm
Hrmmm...I may have to postpone Snow Leopard on my wife's iMac for a year.

http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/files/Adobe-SnowLeopard_FAQ.pdf
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Q. Will older versions of Adobe creative software—such as Adobe Creative Suite 3 or Macromedia® Studio 8 software—support Mac OS X Snow Leopard (v10.6)?

A. Older versions of Adobe creative software were not included in our testing efforts. While older Adobe and Macromedia applications may install and run on Mac OS X Snow Leopard (v10.6), they were designed, tested, and released to the public several years before this new operating system became available. You may therefore experience a variety of installation, stability, and reliability issues for which there is no resolution. Older versions of our creative software will not be updated to support Mac OS X Snow Leopard (v10.6).
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post #23 of 165
8/26/09 at 1:01pm
Pretty standard response.  They have to protect themselves and they aren't going to spend resources on older software when they are one of the more ruthless, you must upgrade, software developers.  I'd wait and let other people try it first.  I've got machines at work that I'm will have to wait to upgrade until we can upgrade everything we need to.  And I've got a laptop with CS3 that I may go ahead and upgrade after I hear some of the initial reports.
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post #24 of 165
8/26/09 at 1:03pm
Yep. I'd planned to upgrade both machines the same weekend. But I better hold off on my wife's. We're not ready to re-mortgage the house to buy CS5, and if I break CS3, then life is bad.

I wish there was a Cash for Clunkers program for design software :)
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post #25 of 165
8/26/09 at 1:45pm
http://lifehacker.com/5345690/prep-your-mac-for-snow-leopard
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post #26 of 165
8/26/09 at 3:51pm
Some good stuff in that LH article. Bookmarked for future reference.
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post #27 of 165
8/26/09 at 6:03pm
That article also indicates it MAY be possible to install from scratch with the $29 disc.  I guess we'll know Friday.  The main reason I want to know is because I have an Intel iMac at work running 10.4 and Parallels and I would like to migrate it to an external disc with 10.6 and either the latest Parallels or Boot Camp without disrupting it's current operation, then once the new boot drive is working properly, just move the external over to the internal drive and go on with life.
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post #28 of 165
8/26/09 at 6:10pm
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Full Macworld review up

Just started reading it, but it says it's a full installer that will let you do a clean install and even let you jump from Tiger directly to Snow Leopard with no checking of the prior OS. As usual Apple is relying on an honor system for buyers and as usual, I'm sure a lot of people will skirt the licensing agreement and jump straight from Tiger to Leopard.
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post #29 of 165
8/26/09 at 6:34pm
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Pogue's NY TImes piece and Mossberg's WSJ take are up too.
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post #30 of 165
8/26/09 at 8:43pm
Ah cool, my co-author David Pogue is always great!  I just got my signed copy of his twitter book since he used a quote from me (which my parents stole from Mark Twain).  I don't know if I trust Mossberg any more tho, but I cannot wait for John Siracusa's review.

http://gizmodo.com/5346418/snow-leopard-review-lightened-and-enlightened

http://www.loopinsight.com/2009/08/26/mac-os-x-snow-leopard-reviews-posted/
Edited by Sam Posten - 8/26/09 at 9:05pm
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