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post #61 of 201
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Agreed Mark, Deb's breakdown was well done.

Have to agree as well, but damn she is an ugly crier.

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post #62 of 201
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Have to agree as well, but damn she is an ugly crier.
 

I can agree there, I had to pause it while my wife went to the bathroom so I was stuck with that image for longer than I wanted.
post #63 of 201
I guess I'm the minority here, but I have found Dexter Season 4 to be sub-par at best. The last episode opens up some great new possibilities for the rest of the season, but, up until now, the show has been a somewhat pale imitation of its best years (1 and 2).

For instance, episode 4: the police officer was such a contrived character and story and clearly constructed to advance a point about the Dexter-and-his-family theme. I didn't feel Dexter was ever in danger and I thought the police officer character seemed awfully "fake."

The show still has sharp writing and great characters and I hope that the rest of the season (since episode 5 seems to be a turning point) is executed at a higher level than episodes 1 to 5.
post #64 of 201
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I guess Kev, we're just enjoying different things.

But I thought tonight's ep was another home run.    Damn is Lithgow a creepy bastard!
post #65 of 201
Agreed Matt.  The dance between the two serial killers has begun.  Hall and Lithgow are just as good as I thought they would be when they finally started to share the screen.  The 'mentoring' of Dexter on how to incorporate the two sides of his life is great stuff.
post #66 of 201
Lithgow is making this the best season since the first one. He's got his role nailed.
post #67 of 201
I think the Batista/LaGuerta storyline is really dragging this season down. It just kind of came out of nowhere - like, "let's just dump Batista's love story which we spent the last part of Season 3 developing, and put two of our people together and see what happens".  The thing is, there's never been any reason for them to be together. It doesn't make sense. That the show manages to succeed as entertainment despite this filler is testament to the great Trinity storyline.

But I really wish they'd cut their losses and dump the story (unfortunately, I have a feeling it's not going anywhere). I'd rather watch a bad spinoff show of Quinn and his reporter girlfriend solving crimes than another ten minutes of "is this crazy, Ahn-hell?"  "Crazy good!" (smack, smack)

Again though, it must be said... Lithgow rocks.
post #68 of 201
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I think the Batista/LaGuerta storyline is really dragging this season down.

I agree (perhaps not on the degree that it's bringing it down though - for the most part it's a very small part of the story).  I think more importantly though, my like for the Angel character has waned with every season, and this storyline is just killing him for me.  I really liked him in season 1.
post #69 of 201
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Lithgow is making this the best season since the first one. He's got his role nailed.
 

Indeed.  Is there anybody in the business who does nice and creepy, often at the same time, as well?
post #70 of 201
Is there anyone who LaGuerta hasn't had a thing for anyway?  Season 1 she wanted Dexter, she had that thing in the past with Doakes, now this with Angel... in a few more years maybe she'll be hooking up with Masuka. 
post #71 of 201
She wanted Dexter?  Really?
post #72 of 201
In season 1, she was flirting with him and coming onto him very strongly.  And somehow I forgot to mention how she used to date Miguel as well.
post #73 of 201
Well, it was about time, with all the domesticated Dexter stuff getting in the way of Dexter's nocturnal activities, Dexter finally got a little too smug about his CSI skills and snuffed out the wrong guy.

Quinn just never has gelled with me as a character, and he's bit of detailing Dexter's every move is going to end up badly for him.

Trinity also confuses me, the season-long arc of Dexter playing cat-n-mouse with him is wearing thin for me.
post #74 of 201
Dexter killing an innocent person was a long time coming.  Trinity building a coffin was a nice bit of foreshadowing.  Sure hope they do not squash Deb finding out about Dexter's mother.

A coming together of threads episode.  Things should get real interesting next episode.
post #75 of 201
I wonder who the coffin is for?
post #76 of 201
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Quinn just never has gelled with me as a character, and he's bit of detailing Dexter's every move is going to end up badly for him.
 

Exactly, look what happened to Doakes.

I wonder if Trinity's schedule has been accelerated?  They said he does his three once a year or so.  I know the coffin can't be for one of the three though since he leaves his victims to be found.  Unless trinity isn't really a trinity?  Maybe a quad or pentagonal killer?
post #77 of 201
What confused me is I thought the photographer all but admitted to killing those women while on the "table".  Did I miss something?

Either way, I don't know if I'd call that guy innocent.
post #78 of 201
The photographer admitted to beating the women up for realism for his photographs.  He was certainly despicable but he was not a murderer.

The coffin, IMHO, is for Dexter.  Trinity acted so distraught because he knows that Dexter is on to him and this killing is outside of his pattern but he has to do it.

Dexter killing the deer and the photographer with an axe was a nice subtle link.
post #79 of 201
S4 is coming together nicely. It took a few episodes to gain momentum.
Angel's life may have been spared. Doakes, Ellen and Miguel can attest to the fact that there's no future in getting close to Maria. Oh that's right, no they can't.

I have no doubt whatsoever whom the coffin is for.
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Arthur is building it for himself. He knows he's dying and that's why he's brought his act back home to Miami after 30 years. The perfectionistic attention to detail and the frown at Dexter cutting down "his" tree for him are hints, I think. 
But then again, I never get tired of being wrong.
Edited by Jim_F - 11/13/09 at 5:51am
post #80 of 201
Interesting theory Jim.  We shall soon find out.
post #81 of 201
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Indeed.  Is there anybody in the business who does nice and creepy, often at the same time, as well?
 

Well my vote for that would be Christopher Walken.  However,  John Lithgow is right up there in the same league.

post #82 of 201
Hate to say it, but I don't like Dexter interacting so openly with Trinity. For an example, by travelling to Tampa with him, they'd show up togetherr in surveillance video from the hardware store, the restaurant, and there would be numerous witnesses that they made an impression on who saw them together, including the family in the restaurant and the current occupants of Trinity's childhood home.  If Trinity disappeared in Tampa Dexter would be caught so quickly it'd be silly.  In fact if he disappears at all I'm sure the family is going to mention "Kyle". It's uncharacteristic of Dexter to be this careless.

Sloppy writing, IMO. I know that they need to have Dexter and Trinity interact to make it interesting but they are stretching credulity past the breaking point here.
post #83 of 201
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Since we don't know how it ends, that's not a sure thing.  In fact, they may be laying this out for Dexter NOT to kill Trinity.. that Debra gets him first ;)
post #84 of 201
The previews for next week show look great.

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It looks like Trinity's outwardly perfect family is just a facade and they've been living in terror of him for who know how long.
And just who really shot Deb?  Maybe Lundy wasn't single and his wife did the shooting.
post #85 of 201
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I go back to what I thought before: I think the reporter shot Deb & Lundy, just to get the story :)
post #86 of 201
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Since we don't know how it ends, that's not a sure thing.  In fact, they may be laying this out for Dexter NOT to kill Trinity.. that Debra gets him first ;)
 

In fact I'm fairly sure it won't be Dexter who gets him, because if Dexter did kill him at this point, he'd logically be found out fairly quickly. If he'd killed him in Tampa as he'd planned, he'd be toast.
post #87 of 201
I know reporters will go to any lengths to get a story, but actually shooting someone?  They report the news not create it.

Although anything could happen on Dexter. :)  I was hoping we'd get another show with the reporter but her advances were spurned.
post #88 of 201
While I'm enjoying this season, it certainly has a lot of twists and turns, I might be in the minority but I think I found last season a bit more interesting, I really like Jimy Smits's interaction with Dexter, part of me would liked Migue to stay sane and Allowed Dexter to have a confident on the inside. 
post #89 of 201
I'm sticking to what I predicted here, right after Lundy and Deb got shot...

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/forum/thread/291841/dexter-season-4/30#post_3621697

(The fact that we haven't even seen him since then only reinforces it even more in my mind.)
post #90 of 201
 They're making an issue of the fact the the shooter has to be Masuka's height, so Anton's too tall  ("Anton's a big guy, lots of skin.") to qualify. 
It's looking like Debra will get the collar on Trinity. If he were to wind up secretly piecemeal in the Gulfstream, that would be an unsatisfactory outcome for Deb.
If Christine gets shipped off to Death Row, maybe we can see some more of Yuki? 
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