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post #151 of 213
12/29/09 at 8:28am
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Originally Posted by PJMTV View Post

We have strayed so far from the original topic of the Three Stooges that I wanted to bring it back to them. In the 1980's there was a re-issue of the Three Stooges in 35mm to theaters, we ran them before the feature.  They were marked on the film band as 1:85-1 ratio & we ran them this way.  Polarized copies of the 3-D shorts were also included in this release.  We ran SPOOKS & PARDON MY BACKFIRE in Polarized 3D back to back using two syncronized projectors with platters.  Then we broke for an intermission while we re-set the projectors for the 2-D feature that followed.
One funny incident had a new print from Columbia including the full leaders for the end of reel 1 & beginning of reel 2 intact in the middle of the film.  It was projected this way in the first run.

In the 1970's the Marx Brothers were popular & we had Monday & Tuesday Night showings of their films.  Unfortunately this was at a multiplex theater which only had the capability of showing 1:85-1 or 2:33-1 and Universal did not windowbox the prints, it was a mess trying to keep important events on the screen.



That still happens. A local theater showed "Miracle on 34th Street" this past month in a full-frame 35mm print and cropped it to 1.85:1 because they told me they do not have the height to cover the 1.33:1 ratio.
 
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Originally Posted by Jack Theakston View Post

You take your prime lens off of your 'scope lens and either cut a new aperture plate or fudge the 'scope one with foil tape.  Problem solved.

I talked with a projector friend of mine last week and explained the situation to him, and he said it couldn't be done without another lens, but I guess he was wrong.
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post #152 of 213
12/29/09 at 12:24pm
It depends on if the theater's 'scope lens is integrated or not.  Older lenses use a regular flat lens with an anamorphic attachment.  Some newer lenses have it all in one.  If the screen is common height, the prime lens can be de-attached and with a little masking on the top and bottom, an acceptable 1.37 image can be had.
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post #153 of 213
12/29/09 at 2:25pm
I remember doing exactly what Jack describes about 25 years ago when we ran an all-Curly Stooges program in a regular theatre that had never been set up for 1:37.
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post #154 of 213
1/6/10 at 8:41am
I just read on The 3 Stooges forum that Sony is not planning on continuing this collection. With one more volume, how can they do this? Is this true? Can anyone deny or confirm this? If this is true, this is a horrible thing for Sony to do.
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post #155 of 213
1/6/10 at 8:57am
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I just read on The 3 Stooges forum that Sony is not planning on continuing this collection. With one more volume, how can they do this? Is this true? Can anyone deny or confirm this? If this is true, this is a horrible thing for Sony to do.

Not for nothing, but there has been no official word on this.  The last statement we've seen from anyone remotely connected with Sony is that it will take a little longer for this last volume as none of the shorts have ever been released in any home video format and will need extra work done.  Personally, I would be taking the doom and gloom poster on the other board to task for his sources before I went around panicking.
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post #156 of 213
1/6/10 at 8:57am

Robert,

I really hope this is non-factual.  I just picked up vol. 7 (1952-1954), and I am really looking forward to the Bessers.

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post #157 of 213
1/6/10 at 9:10am
I hope he is wrong and the set is being planned. I thought it was an official word from Sony since I had heard this set had the most question of being released for whatever reason. Hopefully, it sees the light of day. Would be a shame if it didn't since it has remained on the best-seller lists of all the online dvd stores.
Edited by Robert13 - 1/6/10 at 9:31am
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post #158 of 213
1/6/10 at 10:28am
Robert, that post has little information coming from someone new to their forum (it also has no replies). Your translation isn't accurate either. Mike from Sony recently posted here saying what Scott recalls: that the final films need more work. I'd go with that scenario.
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post #159 of 213
1/6/10 at 12:53pm
Thanks Matt! ~phew~ I'm not really in touch with who is "in-the-know" so I'm glad you said that. I had no idea that someone from Sony actually posted that. I thought most people on this board were just going by rumors. The way that person posted on the Stooge forum, it seemed official. Anyhow, thanks for clearing it up. I'm looking forward to the final volume when it becomes available. :)
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post #160 of 213
1/7/10 at 8:10am
^^^

I too can't wait for another volume.  I'm really enjoying volume seven these days.  I actually waited longer than usual to pick this one up.  I was quite pleased to see it in Walmart the other day.

Let's get those Bessers moving! :)
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post #161 of 213
1/7/10 at 10:57am
Discussion has been very active about this at the Stooge forum. Sony must know that fans are willing to buy the final volume. This has been a very popular series for them. So I'm quite happy to know that they are, in fact, going to complete this collection. Hopefully, it will be in 2010.
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post #162 of 213
1/7/10 at 1:53pm
You guys should stop listening to rumors. We are very
fortunate to have Sony people reading this forum and
when possible we are going to keep you updated with
accurate information.

Our reliable Sony source says look for the final volume
about mid-2010.

That's not rumor. 
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post #163 of 213
1/7/10 at 3:14pm
Thanks Ron.  I think most of us recognized this as typical internet angst but a little rumor squashing is always welcome.  Nature certainly does abhor a vacuum and it would appear that extends to information sites as well. 
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post #164 of 213
1/8/10 at 9:18pm
Eh, I'm a regular at the Stooges Forum.. some new guy posted what he saw as "fact" from some Wikipedia article so naturally nobody bought it.

I'm glad the final Volume is coming but I am itching to know what Sony's plans are for the Shemp, Besser, and DeRita solos which were at one point planned to be included on the later sets.
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post #165 of 213
2/2/10 at 7:43am
If you have not heard the news this morning, SONY Home Video is hurting from the $16.4 BILLION drop in DVD sales. The increase of $1.5 BILLION in Blu-ray sales & the $2.1 BILLION from Video On-Demand is not enough to make up for this.

Sony is pushing back some current blockbuster releases to a 2012 DVD release date (no word yet on the Three Stooges Volume 8 release date).  More decisions will be made by the first week of March.

Oh, and 450 employees are going to be laid off at SONY PICTURES because of this.
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post #166 of 213
2/2/10 at 7:53am
I'm not terribly concerned about this.  Thankfully, these Stooges releases were performing above expectations from all accounts.  No reason to believe that the final volume won't be out, particularly when that will allow Sony to do a repackaging and market the complete set.
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post #167 of 213
2/2/10 at 8:19am
With one last set to go, I'm apprehensive but not too concerned. I am concerned, however, about their general catalog momentum at retail.
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post #168 of 213
2/2/10 at 8:22am
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Originally Posted by PJMTV View Post

If you have not heard the news this morning, SONY Home Video is hurting from the $16.4 BILLION drop in DVD sales. The increase of $1.5 BILLION in Blu-ray sales & the $2.1 BILLION from Video On-Demand is not enough to make up for this.

Sony is pushing back some current blockbuster releases to a 2012 DVD release date (no word yet on the Three Stooges Volume 8 release date).  More decisions will be made by the first week of March.

Oh, and 450 employees are going to be laid off at SONY PICTURES because of this.


Wait a minute.  I keep being told the sdvd industry is doing fine and I'm just being the proverbial "chicken little" when I say I'm a bit concerned about older film and TV on dvd slowing down.  Are you telling me there really is a problem?  LOL

In all seriousness, I think I have to agree with Scott on this one.  The Stooge volumes have sold pretty good so I doubt they'll shelve the last volume. I've got to believe Ron on this one that #8 will be out soon enough.

Gary "I've got all 7 volumes up to this point" O.
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post #169 of 213
2/2/10 at 8:36am
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Wait a minute.  I keep being told the sdvd industry is doing fine and I'm just being the proverbial "chicken little" when I say I'm a bit concerned about older film and TV on dvd slowing down.  Are you telling me there really is a problem?  LOL


 

DVD sales are so bad that I was told this weekend of Best Buys plans to drop DVD stock from their retail stores by 2012.  Limited supplies of Blu-ray will stay on the shelves.

Hulu, NBC.com & other download sites have killed the 'TV on DVD' market, by now many retail stores have reduced their stock on these titles.  I believe collectors sets will stay around, as collectors are the ones who seriously buy.  We are going back 20 years to where there were a few Laserdisc stores catering to the serious collector, but this time it may be on-line only.

The poor economy has escelated the trend to download for free.  However, we still get complaints when a title goes off the download list.  Consumers expect us to keep the files available at all times & that is just not possible at this time.  Server space is valuable, I tell them to go out & buy the DVD if they want to be able to watch it over & over at later dates.

Studios have been relying on the revenue of DVD sales to finance the production of new movies. Now the studios must cut back & find another way to generate revenue for future productions.
Edited by PJMTV - 2/2/10 at 1:37pm
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post #170 of 213
2/3/10 at 6:02am
Well, it's certainly news to read that a major chain retailer has an expiration date for SD and it's not that far away.  I'm surprised I haven't read about this elsewhere.
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post #171 of 213
2/3/10 at 7:00am
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Well, it's certainly news to read that a major chain retailer has an expiration date for SD and it's not that far away.  I'm surprised I haven't read about this elsewhere.
I doubt there will be any announcement from Best Buy, DVDs will just fade away from their shelves.  It would not be in Best Buy's interest to make any announcement.  Should the economy turn around and DVD sales start going up, they can just start stocking the shelves again.

I have also noticed that Borders Stores are now listing many new DVD titles as "on line only".  Representatives there have confirmed that last years reduction in DVD store stock could continue this year.

The Barnes and Noble stores that do carry video & audio (some are book-only) plan to keep new DVD titles on their store shelves at this time.
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post #172 of 213
2/3/10 at 7:03am
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Well, it's certainly news to read that a major chain retailer has an expiration date for SD and it's not that far away.  I'm surprised I haven't read about this elsewhere.


That's because there is no real expiration date. As long as DVDs continue to sell, they're going to be carried by stores. Maybe BB projects that by 2012, DVDs won't be worth the shelf space but if they continue to sell, they aren't going to pass up making money.
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post #173 of 213
2/3/10 at 7:45am
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That's because there is no real expiration date. As long as DVDs continue to sell, they're going to be carried by stores. Maybe BB projects that by 2012, DVDs won't be worth the shelf space but if they continue to sell, they aren't going to pass up making money.


Sure.  But the point here is that they don't seem to be selling as well, thus the potential phase out down the road. 

Gary "heck, we've already seen the reduction of shelf space in many B&M stores when it comes to SDVD, so this won't shock me in the least if it ends up happening" O.
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post #174 of 213
2/3/10 at 3:50pm
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Originally Posted by TravisR View Post

That's because there is no real expiration date. As long as DVDs continue to sell, they're going to be carried by stores.

 

How about if they aren't on store shelves, they can't sell in stores? Yesterday I went to Bust Buy  with $75 in Christmas gift cards. I went when the store opened at 10am and when I got out and into my car it was 11:15. I literally spent over an hour TRYING to find SOMETHING, ANYTHING to spend these gift cards on. But they didn't stock the titles I wanted, some of the ones I figured I'd just grab off the shelves.
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post #175 of 213
2/3/10 at 3:56pm
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You should check out their website. They should have almost anything that's in print.
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post #176 of 213
2/3/10 at 4:24pm
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You should check out their website. They should have almost anything that's in print.

Yeh,and you can check the webiste for STORE AVAILABLITY on any/all products! 
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post #177 of 213
2/3/10 at 4:31pm
thanks for sharing....

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post #178 of 213
2/3/10 at 7:29pm
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DVD sales are so bad that I was told this weekend of Best Buys plans to drop DVD stock from their retail stores by 2012.  Limited supplies of Blu-ray will stay on the shelves.

Hulu, NBC.com & other download sites have killed the 'TV on DVD' market, by now many retail stores have reduced their stock on these titles.  I believe collectors sets will stay around, as collectors are the ones who seriously buy.  We are going back 20 years to where there were a few Laserdisc stores catering to the serious collector, but this time it may be on-line only.

The poor economy has escelated the trend to download for free.  However, we still get complaints when a title goes off the download list.  Consumers expect us to keep the files available at all times & that is just not possible at this time.  Server space is valuable, I tell them to go out & buy the DVD if they want to be able to watch it over & over at later dates.

Studios have been relying on the revenue of DVD sales to finance the production of new movies. Now the studios must cut back & find another way to generate revenue for future productions.
I apologize that I don't understand but who is we? what download list??  Are you talking about a download company???
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post #179 of 213
2/3/10 at 7:31pm
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Originally Posted by PJMTV View Post

If you have not heard the news this morning, SONY Home Video is hurting from the $16.4 BILLION drop in DVD sales. The increase of $1.5 BILLION in Blu-ray sales & the $2.1 BILLION from Video On-Demand is not enough to make up for this.

Sony is pushing back some current blockbuster releases to a 2012 DVD release date (no word yet on the Three Stooges Volume 8 release date).  More decisions will be made by the first week of March.

Oh, and 450 employees are going to be laid off at SONY PICTURES because of this.
This number seems excessively high to me....

(edit) it is. Sales dropped TO $16.4 Billion. It wasn't a $16.4b drop in sales.
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post #180 of 213
2/3/10 at 7:41pm
channels.isp.netscape.com/news/story.jsp

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DVD rental and purchase revenues dropped 11 percent to $16.4 billion, the group said.
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