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Originally Posted by Carl Miller View Post

I liked Didi's performance and I'm not sure why she got bashed. I didn't like Siobahns performance at all and yet she got praise by all but Simon. That high note is a complete shriek and she ain't no Adam Lambert even if she did try to look like him tonight.

I'm going to take some heat for this but Crystal is really starting to bore me. I get it, she has talent, but IMO all her performances are identical....Kind of like Casey, except Crystal is much better.

When Paige first went on I thought ok this is it, she's gone....But then Tim and Andrew went on with equal amounts of suckage and Paige might just get another week. Michael and Lee were ok.

Katie will survive to be bland another week. Am I forgetting someone?


 


Aaron, but it's clearly not your fault.
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There anywhere from a little to a whole lot of hypocrisy on American Idol, from the slamming of song “choices” that aren’t as expansive as the judges would like you to think, to the constant chirping about “artistry” and “being who you are” on a show that muzzles its contestants lest they stray from the company line.  Yet three recent featured singers – Orianthi, Ke$ha, and Miley Cyrus – exposed the hypocrisy at the very heart of American Idol – you don’t have to be able to sing to be a recording artist.  Shit, you don’t even have to be an artist. 

 

It’s kind of a slap in the face for the judges to sift through the minutiae of each contestant’s vocals to determine who deserves to be their promoted singer when they turn around and invite performers who can barely eke out a tune to come on the show.  You could make the case that Orianthi is really a guitar player who only sings because instrumental rock isn’t a mass market genre and that Ke$ha, for all her faults, is a at least a songwriter (even if the songs are terrible).  But it’s a real bitchslap to the face for Idol to trot out Miley Cyrus, someone who a) got her big break because her dad is in the biz b) got an even bigger break by being promoted by the Disney juggernaut c) can’t sing d) at 17 is younger than all but two contestants and e) gets “co-writing credit” on some songs, but doesn’t actually write the hits that she’s known for.  It’s a red flag when a bubblegum artist like Miley claims co-writing credit, but only on the filler songs in her albums – this is usually done to give the singer some artistic credibility, but their actual contributions range from “I suggested the title” to “I paid to get my name on the credits”. 

 

Imagine you are Crystal Bowersox, a contestant who can blow away Miley Cyrus in a singing competition, writes her own songs, and has more talent and understanding of how to sing in one of her dreads than Miley will ever have.  Imagine that you have to fake smile and take “tips” from Miley, who is “mentoring” you.  It’s like Julia Stiles getting acting lessons from… Miley Cyrus.  Imagine if you’re any of the contestants and have to listen to a girl who sounds like she has an eternal stuffy nose with a braying vocal timbre whose singing voice, when unprocessed, sounds a little Marlee Matlin-ish and has all the performance skills of an ever-smiling Pageant-bot.  And she’s going to give you suggestions on how to sing better.  Uh, okay.  Thanks for the insult, producers!  I mean, the talent level this year is precipitously low, but bringing Miley freakin’ Cyrus on as a mentor is still nothing short of retardation and a clear sign that the Idol ship is completely rudderless.

 

Lee – My new nickname for Lee is “Anonymous”, as in “Anonymous-Lee”.  Lee picked The Letter and used the Joe Cocker arrangement, and that would have been fine if it weren’t for the weird jazzy phrasing he used – it sounded like Harry Connick Jr. singing Joe Cocker’s version.  Lee’s stage presence without the guitar consists of a shaky leg, aimless wandering around the stage, and two poses – a Napoleonic one where it looks like his arm is in a sling, and palsied hand shaking that looks like his arm fell asleep and he was try to shake off the pins and needles.  This prompted Kara to say, “you’re finally owning the stage”, because Kara is an inept moron.  Another boring and non-descript performance from Anonymous-Lee.

 

Paige – Ryan accused Paige of stealing an audience member’s ring, and all I ask is, why does he have to accuse the only black girl in the competition of stealing?  Paige selected the oft sung Against All Odds and just murdered it.  Or, as Ryan might put it, “Paige did a drive by on Phil Collins, yo”.  It was one of those performances where not a single note was on key, and when she sang those “ooh ooh’s”, I thought the dissonant frequencies would shatter my living room mirror into millions of pieces.  Paige’s critiques were justifiably harsh, but when Simon called it one of “the worst performances of the season”, Paige almost cried for a split second.  Almost.  If for some reason she sticks around, she may want to get laryngitis again, since that was the only time she sounded decent the entire competition.  There is a standard Idol defense mechanism when faced with withering rebuke, which is to say, “I had fun”.  In Paige’s case, it was, “I had fun doing it”.  That makes one person in the entire country who had fun when Paige was singing.  The response is so common that I suspect the producers drill it into the contestants to respond with “fun” when they’re asked why they picked such a godawful song because the truth about song choice is not something the show wants exposed.  Seriously, only one song tonight was from this century, and there were so many repeat songs that I can only assume the list of choices numbered not in “the thousands” as Simon so casually stated, but in, at most, the dozens.  You just can’t clear thousands of songs each week.

 

Tim – Tim got killed by the judges last week, and if Mick Jagger and Bob Marley got their hands on Tim, who know what would happen (especially since that’s the Zombie Bob Marley).  If Paige does stay this week, she might thank Tim for taking her boot spot.  Because while Crazy Little Thing Called Love wasn’t nearly as off-key as Against All Odds (it was, in fact, pretty much on-key), it was so bland, so lightweight, so… sub-karaoke, that Tim really showed that he doesn’t belong in the competition at all, and that’s a pretty big indictment considering this is not a very talented crop to begin with.  Tim was channeling Jon Peter Lewis so ferociously that I suspect he watched Lewis’ season 3 performances in a loop to capture the very essence of cheesy suckiness – the audience glad handing, the mannered expressions, and the stilted movements.  But Tim put his own spin on the performance by acting out the lyrics and sliding across stage, an act so incredibly WTF that it will go down in Idol lore with Sanjaya’s ponyhawk.  That slide will be in on The Soup, guaranteed.  Simon suggested that Tim take singing lessons, which was a kick in the balls for Tim judging by his reaction.  Tim said, “I just wanted to have some fun”.  If by “fun” he meant playing baseball, then yes, he had fun.  Ty Cobb would be proud.  Spikes up!

 

People magazine published Idol baby pictures this week, and I was able to get some outtakes along with the published pictures.  Here’s Timmy as a baby as published, and here’s the outtake they didn’t want you to see.  Tim’s father was in the audience tonight, and the upright bible thumper bears a close resemblance to another upright bible thumper.  I guess that would make Timmy and his brother Rod and Todd.

 

Aaron – Aaron seemed nervous to meet Miley due to his tiny little crush, but that was a super awkward hug he shared.  He was so determined not to rub pee-pees and vijayjays that you could have driven a dump truck through the space between their bodies.  I assumed that I Don’t Want to Miss a Thing was going to be a total disaster since it’s always been a total disaster on this show, but it was competently sung, and although I found it completely boring, it wasn’t a complete trainwreck.  Woe is Idol this season that “not horrible” is the median performance.  During Kara’s slobbery and inexplicable tongue bath, the band started playing or tuning or something, which made me think of the orchestra playing during a long-winded Oscar speech.  Playing during Kara’s critique, then, is quite apropos.  Simon’s unspoken judgment was less kind.  I guess Aaron learned his lesson after flashing the wrong number of fingers during the voting number segment two weeks straight by declining to flash his fingers this week at all.

 

Crystal – My wife absolutely loved Crystal’s version of Me and Bobby McGee, but I was so jarred by the arrangement that I couldn’t warm up to it.  The song started with such low strumming that her vocals sounded out of sync with the music.  Then she ditched most of the lyrics to do the la las at the end – the song was predominantly the end of the Joplin version, and I didn’t really get any sense of the song from her performance.  The copycat ending made the performance very coffeehouse.  Crystal was dressed like she just got back from Lilith Fair, and I half-suspect the earth mother dress was made out of hemp.  I suppose the beads in her hair gussied up her matted dreads, but you know what would really gussy up her hair?  Shampoo.  When Ryan sat down on Crystal’s carpet, it made me think she should have sung Magic Carpet Ride or perhaps A Whole New World.  Ahh, Agrabah.  Where people with matted hair make hemp dresses.  Sure, I might have made that up.  Crystal seemed pretty danged sure she was coming back next week, going so far as to talk about her plans for next week without any equivocation.  So while she may not necessarily think she has the competition in the bag, she seems pretty sure there’s at least one singer she’s going to outlast.

 

Mike – I will give you that Mike is cheesy, that Mike is corny, and that Mike is an attention whore who mugs incessantly.  But Mike can sing.  He doesn’t sing well enough for me to care for it, but he’s on key, he can go up and down the scale with dexterity, and his falsetto has improved to the point where it adds rather than detracts from his performance.  When a Man Loves a Woman was the best vocal performance of the night, and while his voice lacks real character, like a rasp, or a velvety tone, it’s still better than most of the other contestants, and he and Siobhan probably have the biggest range in the competition.  Which is why it was puzzling to hear the judges rip apart the performance en masse.  I agree with Mike’s sister or cousin or what not – oh no, you judges be trippin’.  Yeah, I know.  Sorry.  What I can’t fathom is why the judges chose to lick Aaron Kelly’s asshole clean and then go Guiliani Time on Mike’s when Mike was something like 1,000 times better than Aaron.  These judges are trippin’, no doubt.

 

Andrew – Another performance that may save Paige for another week, I Heard It Through the Grapevine was a mess, with weird phrasings and pitch problems galore.  Andrew is a song re-arranger and not a true singer, and every time they convince him to ditch the guitar, it’s just another week his stock goes down.  Without the guitar, Andrew started acting out the lyrics and playing charades, which is unnecessary because WE CAN HEAR THE LYRICS.  Here’s a phrase, three words – can you guess what it is?  Here’s the answer.  And at one point, Andrew did a little moonwalk away from the backup singers, and I’m kind of pissed that they cut away before he even started.  It’s not Tim Urban’s Slide, but that would have been great to make fun of.  Miley paid close attention to Andrew’s performance.  BTW, the man whispering into her ear is Adam Shankman.  If you liked the Oscars this year, Adam directed the show.  You may also recognize him as a judge on So You Think You Can Dance.  In his critique, Simon said, “you sucked… the soul out of that song.”  Andrew said, “I had a lot of fun”.  Have fun packing your bags!

 

Katie – Is this an actual song?  I’ve truly never heard of it, and I’m lucky in that regard.  Big Girls Don’t Cry is the only song tonight from this century, if you can believe it.  Katie started out okay, kind of a nice tone even though she was doing that gargly, back of the throat Yoda singing, but by the time she hit the bridge, it broke through the guardrails and plunged off into the icy river below.  Not that it was Paige-like bad, but it constantly veered off-key, and Katie scooped all around the last big note without ever finding it.  Katie’s outfit reminded me of comically named season 7 contestant Alexandrea Lushington’s outfit, only with a jacket.  BTW, I know it looks like “Alexandra”, but her name is pronounced, “a-lex-an-DRE-uh”.  And then there’s Lushington.  That name always makes me laugh.  Katie got so-so reviews and kudos for her song choice but still felt compelled to say, “I had a lot of fun”.  Here’s Katie’s baby picture and the outtake.  Her mom should have been more careful – if Katie dropped that wooden spoon, it could have caught fire on the stovetop.

 

Casey – I hated the arrangement of Power of Love, mostly because he skipped the bridge (probably out of this range) and repeated the chorus, like, 20-25 times.  The performance got really low energy half-way through, and Casey reacted with the same kind of surprise that I did when the first three judges slobbered over it.  It was pretty boring, and I got nothing else.  No baby pictures, no nothing.

 

Didi – Here’s one thing about Didi that annoys me a little – she talks like a baby, with a high pitch and warbly timbre.  Which is exactly how she sings, but it doesn’t bother me at all.  I still don’t know why the judges call her pitchy – she doesn’t sound off-key to me at all.  Which is not to say I liked You’re No Good at all.  The plodding arrangement and repetitive lyrics were enough to sour me on the performance, but the over the top faces she made turned me off even more.  I think the positive reactions to her stank faces last week encouraged her to go down the same path this week – however, if Didi is looking for anything like consistency from the judges, she’s barking up the wrong tree.  Simon said, “it sucked… the life out of you a little bit”.  Didi no likey what the judges were saying.  Predictably, Didi said, “I had a good time”. 

 

Siobhan – That was a weird performance, and since we’re talking about Siobhan, that’s saying something.  I assume she picked Superstition as a bookend to Living in the City and its big glory note that put her on the map in Hollywood Week.  I’m sure the Siobhan-tards were slavering over the prospect of another Stevie Wonder song, another big glory note, and another facet of weirdness to cherish.  And being the tards that they are, they lapped it all up.  But for me, I saw the same problems that plagues the rest of her performances – the slow singing that sits on the back of the beat and makes it sound like she’s falling behind the band, the musical theater/glee club tone and phrasings, and the pitch problems (although this was the closest she got to staying in key so far).  The glory note?  Fail.  The scatting?  Fail plus.  Also detracting from the performance – the perma-smile, the weird, spazzy shuffling, and the bleached streak that swept across her temple that reminded me of Reed Richards or Paulie Walnuts.  Kara said, “how can you say that’s not amazing?”  Like this: THAT WAS NOT AMAZING.  Ellen said, “to quote Oliver, ‘more please’”.  Actually, Ellen was paraphrasing Oliver – the actual quote is, “Please sir, I want some more.”  Ellen looks like Odo from Deep Space Nine.


Edited by Hanson - 3/24/10 at 9:54am
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Lee Dewyze - Not bad, at least he seemed like he was enjoying himself on

stage.


Paige Miles - sounded like she was out of breath, so her vocals seemed to

just trail off too softly or went to 11 when it didn't need to do so.  A

futile exercise in trying to demonstrate her dynamic range.  Did she ever

show a raspiness to her voice, it didn't really work for this song.  Don't

even get me started on the pitchiness, dawg....


Tim Urban - is now in the running for Karoake Idol champ for 2010.  The

slide was so dumb.  Far too much pandering to the teen idol thang without

the vocals to back it up.   The audio equivalent of Sominex.


Aaron Kelly - Again, not bad, but he's voice is still to vibratto-ish for my

liking. 

Crystal Bowersox - not sure of the song choice where you just sing "Bobby

McGhee" and just a bunch of "Na-na's" for half the song, but she can sing.


Michael Lynche - though his voice has this whiney tang to it, and not the

best falsetto, he's still far too in love with himself to embrace him

seriously.


Andrew Garcia - he has no range, and has to rely on weird vocal inflections

to get through the lyrics at times.


Katie Stevens - what was with the key she sang the song in?  It sounded so

shrill.  Horrific performance.


Casey James - with a song with more stacatto stops, it got rid of most of

his goattishness to his vocals, and was one of his better performances.


Didi Benami - has this weird lilt and inflections in a tempo that was a tad

too slow for my taste, but performance-wise, she's appears to be trying to

be getting better.


Siobhan Magnus - The production of it was ridiculous, even for the pimp

spot.  She goes far too low when she doesn't have to, which gives the song a

weird quality to it at times.  But very current rendition, but should have

shown restraint for the screechy notes at the end.

post #274 of 667
Hanson,

Thank you for expressing my EXACT sentiment for the Miley Cyrus showcase last night. The only way the producers could have a LESS credible mentor would be if they start using ex-contestants to "give advice" to the current crop.

I felt sad for the eleven who had to look her in the eye and feign generous amounts of respect. It doesn't help my opinion of her that she genuinely believes she deserves all of it and more.

C
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 Did anyone notice that Ryan called Aaron 'David Archuleta'?  Talk about typecasting. :)
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Well next season just got a whole lot better, in my opinion.

I hope the rumour that she will land on So You Think You Can Dance is false...
 

I heard Paula has signed on for the next all new STAR SEARCH as one of the judges. Anyone remember Star Search?
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I'm going to take some heat for this but Crystal is really starting to bore me. I get it, she has talent, but IMO all her performances are identical....Kind of like Casey, except Crystal is much better.
 

I'm already there.
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Paige was literally unlistenable.  About a minute in, I went to the kitchen and got a bowl of frozen blueberries.  The sound of them rattling into the bowl was more pleasant.

Plus her performance contained 73% less antioxidants.
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I heard Paula has signed on for the next all new STAR SEARCH as one of the judges. Anyone remember Star Search?

I remember Star Search and the Arsenio Hall reboot (which I never watched), but Paula will not be involved with the newest one:

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/abdul-star-search-talks-fall-to-earth_1136062

Does anyone remember American Juniors?
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There anywhere from a little to a whole lot of hypocrisy on American Idol, from the slamming of song “choices” that aren’t as expansive as the judges would like you to think, to the constant chirping about “artistry” and “being who you are” on a show that muzzles its contestants lest they stray from the company line.  


I have to agree about the hypocrisy.  On the one hand, contestants get slammed for doing the same thing each week, refusing to step out of their comfort zone etc, yet Crystal has done the same kind of thing week after week and keeps getting kudos for "knowing what kind of artist you are/want to be".  She plays to her strengths, which is fair enough and is good strategy, yet when Siobhan does the same in going for the 'glory note', she gets criticized for it (OK, admittedly it is getting a bit OTT, but not much more than Crystal's raspy singing).

Contestants get critiqued for not bringing anything different to the song ("make it your own" being the mantra), yet to me it appeared Crystal absolutely just channeled Janis Joplin, right down to the way she dressed, and was praised for emulating her.  I'm not familiar with the Joplin original of McGee so if it was different then fair enough, but it certainly felt and sounded like a Joplin song.  Casey got slammed for allegedly doing Power Of Love exactly as Huey Lewis did, but I actually thought he made it slightly more bluesy.

And the other favourite canard that Simon keeps trotting out is how they need to be "contemporary".  Just how contemporary is following exactly in the footsteps of a deceased 70s rock legend?

Sorry, this is starting to sound like an anti-Crystal rant, and it isn't meant to be, I do enjoy what she does and think she'll go far.  What bugs me is how the judges seem hell-bent on praising her to high heaven, whilst criticizing other contestants on points that apply equally to her -- yet she never gets called on it.  Even the guitar-playing, it was just gently suggested to her that she should try going without, whereas Casey, who can play really well and IMHO is entitled to and should keep doing so, caught serious flack for it, as have other guitar players.

It's the double-standard: the anointed one can do no wrong even when she commits the very same faults others are castigated for.
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I can't believe only one of the songs performed was from the past 10 years (Fergie's "Big Girls Don't Cry").

These are young people, supposedly trying to appeal to young people at home, and they sing songs that none of them are likely familiar with (not to mention many of the same songs that have already been performed repeatedly on AI in past seasons).

I'm beginning to think that the judges should make the song choices for each contestant until we reach the Top 5, then let them begin to make their own choices.

This is the first ep I've watched this season and was completely unimpressed with any of them. Not sure I'll watch much more until maybe the Top 5. Definitely the least talented group of contestants ever. I can't imagine buying a song or album by any of them.
post #282 of 667
To quote my wife, "Miley Cyrus??  What would Adam Lambert have said if Miley tried to give him advice?"

How about, "stick it?"
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Thread Starter 
I have to think there's a lot of older people watching the show.  Is it really hip enough for the young?  I'm glad they don't load it down with recent songs, because most recent (hit) songs suck.

I groaned when Ryan announced that Casey would be doing Power of Love.  I was sure it was going to be the Jennifer Rush/Air Supply/Celine Dion opus.  I was glad it was the Huey song, though it was a pretty weird choice.  I think it argues against the judges picking the songs, because where would they pull that one from?  I like the original, and Casey is clearly a much better guitarist than, say, David Cook, but the vocals were just alright and I knew the whole time that Simon was going to hate it.
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I have to laugh thinking of the reaction of anyone not knowing that the theme for last night was originally "Teen Idols" but changed sometime during the week.  Not knowing that, there had to be lots of WTFs when Miley Cyrus appears as the mentor on "Billboard #1 Hits" theme week.
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The irony was that none of the idols could perform a Miley song because she's never had a #1 hit song.  Both albums went to #1, but Party in the USA peaked at #2.
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I hated Miley as a mentor for the reasons already expressed here (especially in Hanson's recap). The one thing I will sau, however, is she has been in front of millions of people for years and has grown up in show business, and with the exception of Mike and possibly Siobahn, these contestants could all use some of her swagger and confidence.

I think Adam Lambert would have dealt with it just like Crystal Bowersox did. I did have an entertaining moment thinking to myself that I'd love to see Miley at a subway station trying to get people to stop and listen.

I'm starting a movement. I want John Mayer on the show. OK, probably too late for this year, but next year. If he's already been a mentor, it doesn't count because I either didn't watch the show back then or I wasn' t familiar with his music back then. Oh, and I just don't want him to mentor like Miley did. I want the contestants to have to pick from his catalog. Given how much I've expressed a dislike of theme weeks over the past fear years, that's saying something, but Introducing me JM's music is the biggest thing I've obtained from AI this season, so I'll make and exception (until they murder the catalog and make me hate all the songs).

I really only care about Crystal, Mike, and Siobahn at this point, though I'm still able to enjoy some of the other performances. I hope none of them bite and try to change what they do. I'd rather watch Michael Jordan play basketball for 10 years game after game rather than watch him attempt baseball. I like to see people do what they do well. I'm not concerned about a supposed lack of versatility.

It was easy to miss, but while Crystal's initial response subconsciously expressed her belief in her own press, she did backup and say "... if I'm back next week." (or something to that effect).
 
Casey rocks on guitar, but because of it, he's perfectly content to take moments where he doesn't sing at all and just rocks out. I can appreciate the talent, but it irritates me and takes me out of the performance everytime he does it. Crystal and Casey deserve different critiques because while both play, they do different things. Crystal's playing seems to complement her singing, whereas Casey's singing almost seems there to complement his playing.

It didn't bother me that Mike's When A Man Loves A Woman was overindulgent. I felt of everyone, he continued to own the stage and put energy into his performances. Stage presence. It wasn't another moment performance for me, but it was good enough.

I hope Siobahn is a final 3-4 contestant. Not just for the weirdo factor, mind you. I also like her singing. I simply cannot match the performer with the non-performer. Maybe the judges have it right when they say the only place she seems comfortable is on stage, and that she's fearless. Something about all of that appeals to me. And her singing doesn't hurt, either.

Now that Simon has Ryan back into his own space, he needs to work on Kara.
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Yeah, that kid who did the Aerosmith.  Crystal's too predictable.  "And up next, we have Janis Joplin by. . . ."  Don't even need to finish the sentence, Ryan. 

And next week, "we have Creedence Clearwater Revival by...." Or did she do that already?


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Aaron, but it's clearly not your fault.

Sadly, a few weeks ago I knew his name. My wife has a SAB request for you Hanson, if you see fit....Aaron and Bert from Sesame Street.


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I'm already there.

 

I'm glad I'm not the only one...
post #288 of 667
Wow, tonight's "singing" by Miley, some Jonas brother, and some random chick were easily the worst thing I've ever heard on this show from supposed "professional singers."  Even that Kasha chick from last week was better.

Terrible.  Simply terrible.
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Wow, tonight's "singing" by Miley, some Jonas brother, and some random chick were easily the worst thing I've ever heard on this show from supposed "professional singers."  Even that Kasha chick from last week was better.

Terrible.  Simply terrible.
I agree. I'd never seen a Jonas brother before and wasn't impressed. No idea who the random chick was. Miley especially though, was awful. Pitchy. Too dramatic. No connection to the lyrics. Wasn't the right song choice for her for me.
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I agree. I'd never seen a Jonas brother before and wasn't impressed. No idea who the random chick was. Miley especially though, was awful. Pitchy. Too dramatic. No connection to the lyrics. Wasn't the right song choice for her for me.
 

Those were the modern Teen Idols - Joe Jonas, Demi Lovato and Miley. I bet the smell of bubblegum and wet panties was heavy in the auditorium tonight ... actually they weren't all THAT bad. They are well coached performers .... and it must suck to be as good looking as Jonas and Lovato. All three are very young and already have years of experience. I have a 16 year old niece that lives and breathes The Jonas Brothers ... they are HUGE with the teens and tweens these dayzzz....
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"Wasn't the right song choice for her for me"

Dude, for me to you....lol

Regards,
 
 
 
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While I don't care for Cyrus, Jonas and the other girl I have to strongly disagree that they were worse than that Kesha person.

She sounded like someone who had one foot caught in a bear trap and someone was smashing her hand in a hot waffle iron.

America got it right, later Paige, you blew.
post #293 of 667
Paula is still on the show; she's just been split into two entities: the forced praise (Ellen) and the incoherent babble (Kara).  :)

The David Archuleta crack was pretty funny.

Miley Cyrus may not be the greatest singer, but she has a hundred times the stage presence and performance skills of any of the current contestants.

And as for her career, it probably has little to do with her one-hit wonder dad and a lot to do with her godmother, music legend Dolly Parton (who, to be honest, Miley's voice reminds me of a little bit).

Also: I forgot to watch last night, so I didn't see the Disney Fest (although I am quite familiar with all of them, since the Disney Channel is often on in my house).
The Celtics kicked butt though! 
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Miley Cyrus may not be the greatest singer, but she has a hundred times the stage presence and performance skills of any of the current contestants.

I would rather watch Crystal stand there with her guitar and play/sing, than watch Miley Cyrus or the Jonas guy/random girl.

At one point, Miley went into complete body spasms.  She jerked her torso down fo hard and fast that, for a brief moment, I thought she fell off the stage.  Alas, it was not so.
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Miley Cyrus may not be the greatest singer, but she has a hundred times the stage presence and performance skills of any of the current contestants.

And as for her career, it probably has little to do with her one-hit wonder dad and a lot to do with her godmother, music legend Dolly Parton (who, to be honest, Miley's voice reminds me of a little bit). 

Aaron,

For my own part, I agree with what you wrote above regarding Miley Cyrus.  I also think her voice is quite good, and I enjoy a lot of her music.  (I prefer the 'Miley' music to the 'Hannah' music, but both have something to offer to the trained ear.)  One of the books I am currently working on has to do with the Hannah Montana / Miley Cyrus phenomenon.  I've written lengthy chapters on her music (pertaining to the songs that have been written for her and those which she has written), and I have studied several aspects of her music from a variety of perspectives.  One of the most interesting of these is that the timbre of her voice is quite different depending on the key (and in some cases, mode) in which she sings.  And the key distribution included on one disc from her 2-CD set Hannah Montana 2: Meet Miley Cyrus album is more eclectic than any pop-rock album I've ever heard, not to mention extremely unusual for the genre.  That disc alone has occupied a substantial amount of my time as far as analysis is concerned.

At least four of her albums (as either Hannah Montana or Miley Cyrus) have reached number one at present.  These are the Hannah Montana [Songs From and Inspired By the Television Series] Soundtrack Album, Hannah Montana 2: Meet Miley Cyrus, Breakout, and the Hannah Montana: The Movie [Original Motion Picture Soundtrack] album (= Hannah Montana: The Movie Soundtrack Album).  She is still, I believe, the youngest solo performer ever to have a number one album on the Billboard charts.

One of the more impressive things she has accomplished was to have six songs debut in the top 100 in the same week (a seventh was already on the charts), a feat that has never been done before.  It doesn't rival the fourteen that were on the charts simultaneously during one glorious week in April 4, 1964 of course, but the fact that six debuted in one and the same week is what is impressive to me.  {In case anyone cares, t
he six songs to debut in the top 100 in the same week include If We Were a Movie (no. 47), I Got Nerve (no. 67), Pumpin' Up the Party (no. 81), The Other Side of Me (no. 84), This Is the Life (no. 89), and Just Like You (no. 99).  A seventh song, Who Said, also charted the same week at no. 83, although it was not a debut at that time.}


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My daughter loved the recent episode of American Idol that had most (all?) performers singing tunes recorded by The Rolling Stones.  When she saw Siobhan's version of "Paint It Black," she was calling me at work to see if we owned a copy of the version by The Rolling Stones.  She (my daughter) has quite a fascination with the minor mode and irregular meters.  "Paint It Black" has the former, and it was fun to compare Siobhan's version to that of the Stones.  BTW, that was the first time I had ever seen an episode of American Idol.
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 All I can tell you is that my 13 year old daughter *loves* all the Miley Cyrus songs; but all of a sudden can no longer stand Hannah Montana!  In fact, I was given explicit instructions to remove all Hannah Montana songs from our iTunes car playlists, "but promote all the Miley Cyrus songs".  Like I can tell a difference!  

Of course, she thought that this week's AI was "the best ever"!  
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For my own part, I agree with what you wrote above regarding Miley Cyrus.  I also think her voice is quite good, and I enjoy a lot of her music.  (I prefer the 'Miley' music to the 'Hannah' music, but both have something to offer to the trained ear.)  One of the books I am currently working on has to do with the Hannah Montana / Miley Cyrus phenomenon.  I've written lengthy chapters on her music (pertaining to the songs that have been written for her and those which she has written), and I have studied several aspects of her music from a variety of perspectives.  One of the most interesting of these is that the timbre of her voice is quite different depending on the key (and in some cases, mode) in which she sings.  And the key distribution included on one disc from her 2-CD set Hannah Montana 2: Meet Miley Cyrus album is more eclectic than any pop-rock album I've ever heard, not to mention extremely unusual for the genre.  That disc alone has occupied a substantial amount of my time as far as analysis is concerned.


Which chapter is on the notion that in 20 years, on American Idol Season 30, nobody will be singing any of her "songs," and there certainly won't be a "Miley week."  However, there will still be a Beatles or Stones week.

I would put forth the idea that that Miley is not an artist, rather she is a performer, analogous to a piece of clay, scultped, molded, and put on display by Disney et al.  Do you honestly think she truly writes any of her songs?  Does she really understand why songs are in one key or another, or why a bridge in one of her hits goes up a perfect fifth?  Does she sit down with her band and bang through line-after-line, changing intstrumentation (try playing that riff on the gibson, instead of the gretsch), harmonics, notes, keys, et cetera?  Does the timbre of her voice change because she is doing it for specific reasons, or because that's just what happens when an "ok" singer sings sometimes?

Can Miley perform and entertain a specific audience?  Definitely.  Then again, so can the strippers in Vegas.
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[Homer]Mmmmmmm.... stripppers.....[/Homer]
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I know why he didn't go this week, but I don't understand how Andrew Garcia avoided the bottom three.  He's definitely worse than the other girl who was in the bottom three, and I think Simon's right--"Straight Up" was kind of cute and all, but it wasn't as astonishing as it's now reputed to be.  He must have pictures of Simon Fuller with a goat or something.
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