The Fugitive: Season 3 Volume 1 - Page 5

jquirk, that is a very interesting theory and one I agree with you on.
Many of those reviews on S2V1 appeared to be written out ahead of time and almost corny. Cannot wait for your results !

The CBS Syndication Bible BTW now says that all four seasons have been transferred to HD.

Are you saying there is a possibility CBS is preparing to release The Fugitive on Blu-ray? or it maybe re released on DVD from the beginning?

Actually, that's close to a rhetorical question. We'll just have to wait and see. But I'm hoping.

I have season one and didn't purchase season 2 (after news of the changed score). Unfortunately, it seemed the only way to get the 2nd season with the original music was to purchase the available version, then turn around and send the disks right back to get the new ones with original score. I was reluctant to do that and now it's apparently too late. At the moment, I'm more concerned in getting season two before grabbing three. Since I'm not going to settle for the replaced music, I can only hope it somehow becomes generally available with original score.

If the set is re-released, that may be my only possible solution. I'm pretty sure the music would be right next time.

I bet quite a few people are in the same situation I am. I'll keep an eye out and see what the future holds for this wonderful series.

Anyone seen any advance reviews of S3v1? I'm wondering, like the rest of you, about music substitutions. Less than two weeks away, you'd think a review copy might be floating around.

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Sam, I think the only problem is that many reviewers aren't as savvy and knowledgeable about the specifics of the music cues.  I'm sure most can pick up on obvious subs, but there are going to be many reviewers that just aren't going to be as picky on that point.  Therefore I think we will probably have to wait on a couple of detailed posts here from our regulars to get a really good feel for how this volume sounds.

Gary "just my two cents" O.

I think so, too. I sent in for the replacement discs just a couple of days before the deadline (as is my wont) and received the replacements last week. However, I didn't receive the discs and insert, as advertised. I received a brand new, shrink-wrapped DVD. So, not only does it sometimes pay to wait, I guess, but I'd say it's also a good bet that these will eventually be making it out into stores. The only problem being that I couldn't find anything on the packaging to indicate the difference. The only difference was in the holographic number on the underside of the DVD, so I don't know if there's be any way to tell which edition you're looking at in a store.

Norman,

Actually, they released brand-new shrink wrapped replacements from the get go. My guess is that they really don't want any easy identifier between the two. I don't think thet want to make it too obvious to those that purchased the original release that there is a better one available. Otherwise, they might get flooded with replacement requests.  I do know that the disk placement within the case is different, but obviously that isn't visible from the outside.

 Ah. Oh well, so much for thinking I'm special!

Well, we're only a few days away from the truth. I can't wait to read some reviews.

Incidentally, I finally got around to watching Brass Ring last night. What they did to that episode was an abomination. I know this one is considered the worst of the bunch with altered music (actually a good episode otherwise) but yeah, it's bad. The music just doesn't fit.

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Edited by Sam Favate - 10/23/09 at 9:41am

I may be the only one but my original set of discs with the replaced music had the same disk placement case as the revised set (with all the discs in the middle).

Sam.

Did you mean "Brass Ring" from season 2?  I agree, that one was one of the episodes that was affected by the 'Heyes" substitute more than a lot of others, imo.

Yes, Brass Ring! Sorry; Brass Rail is a restaurant in Hoboken! Will edit to fix!

 My usually dependable source had Season 3 Vol.1 in stock (along with Mannix S3) so I will try to check out an episode tonight but North By Northwest and Up  which I grabbed as well (on blu ray) beckon for my attention forthwith.

Sam,

No problem.   "Hoboken".....been there during trips up to NYC many times.  I love that old transit sta where the PATH trains stop there.  I haven't been up there since before 09/11 .


Brent,

Thanks, there's a lot of us that are curious about the music backscore for this release.

Hey Brent, I really can't wait to read your comments.

 I will be watching S3 Vol.1 tonight, so is there anything in the music score that will tell me what I am hearing? I am not familiar with it so hopefully those that are wanting  the original to be intact can be helped.

If you don't hear synthesizers, it's probably the original stuff. If you do, that means at least part of the score has been replaced. How happy people will be depends on individual tastes. Personally, if it's as the replacement Season 2, Vol. 1 levels, I can live with it. If it's at Season 2, Vol. 2 levels, I can't. If you listen and hear no synthesizers, there'll be rejoicing in the land, and lots of Fugitive dvd sets sold.

I watched "Wings of an Angel" and there is replacement music in that episode just like in the
season 2 episodes.   I am not sure what all is changed from the original but i know for sure
the intros to Acts III, IV, and the epilog all have replacement music. 

 Rick, thank you for the heads up on what to listen for. I went through the first episode "Wings Of An Angel" ( great story to start off another Volume) and it all sounded completely orchestral, by that I mean original instruments - horns and strings etc. I find the subtle nuances in the score a wonderful touch that adds much emotional impact to a scene (that's what a well done score hopes to achieve). In the credits it only lists Pete Rugolo for music if that helps. There is a disclaimer in very small print at the very bottom of the backside of the dvd which mentions the standard "some episodes may have been edited" and " music has been changed for this home entertainment version" Some of the experts here will have to give the final word no doubt but from what I heard, the music sounds devoid of anything remotely resembling a synthesizer. I hope this gives most of you a pretty good chance it is unaltered.

Yikes.  That does NOT sound good at all. 

Gary "perhaps we can get a few more quick reviews just to make sure we're dealing with more S2, V2 garbage as opposed to the more tolerable S2, V1 replacement-type filler" O.

 Geez EdG, your ears are obviously better than mine!

Oops.  Now we have our first "disagreement" on the music subs.  I've got one report telling me there are several replacements, and another report telling me there aren't any that he could hear.  Guess we'll just have to wait another day or so.


Gary "thanks to everyone that got the early copies - perhaps with a bit more viewing we can get to the bottom of this" O.

Nothing to see here.  Move along...

 Well, it can be somewhat difficult if a person does not know the original music and modern techniques can fool the untrained. I was actually making a point to listen as best I could to detect something amiss but if there has been some tampering they duped me!Oh, and sorry about that Gary, I just realized my mistake but the postings are too quick. Well, I'm off to watch some S3 of Mannix - with the original music!

It also doesn't help if a reviewer doesn't know right away those familiar TZ cues that constitute the bulk of what "Fugitive" fans are most anxious to hear.

I can post an mp3 sample of the cues that i was referring to on Wings of an Angel if it is not in violation of the rules of the forum.    If it is ok, let me know and I will post a link.

BY all means do it if you can.    If it's a TZ cue I'd know right away I think.

Here is a small sound sample of the beginnings to Acts III, IV, and the epilog in Wings of an Angel.

 

 

 

 

http://rapidshare.com/files/297919594/wingsofanangel.mp3.html