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post #61 of 219
I'll just chime in on this (because it's what I do) and say I haven't seen any of these "low rent" ads yet in my browser.

Either my teeth are already as white as can be...or only the credit people (Amex) are interested in me. 
post #62 of 219
Do you suppose somehow Huddler knows I have a dog?!?  I've been getting this ad a LOT the past week or so:




Maybe they've been peeking in my front window and have seen my living room furniture! 
post #63 of 219
Here are the "Winner" ads. Bear in mind that they are flashing in a very annoying and distracting way!

(Image deleted by me)



Edited by Marianne - 8/31/09 at 7:40am
post #64 of 219


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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon View Post

I'll just chime in on this (because it's what I do) and say I haven't seen any of these "low rent" ads yet in my browser.
A man of your means, with your AMEX-funded trips to the Wynn, has no need of teeth whitening nor "winning" ads.

As for the dogs ads...like Sam's been warning us, those external APIs ratted you out and told them you have a dog.

As for these ads: HTF has got to pay the bills, but I don't see ads this bad on the other "pro" sites I frequent. I wouldn't accept them either in magazines I read, either. Most are good ads, like the SVS footer-ad below me. But there are now two that are very off-putting.
post #65 of 219


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Originally Posted by DaveF View Post



A man of your means, with your AMEX-funded trips to the Wynn, has no need of teeth whitening nor "winning" ads.

 

Whereas Dave and I have bad teeth and need to get free gift cards in order to be able to shop at WalMart!

BTW I just checked the other Huddler site www.epicski.com/forum/list/8 and didn't see any of these types of ads.


post #66 of 219
Here is the "bad teeth" ad

(Image deleted by me)



Edited by Marianne - 8/31/09 at 7:41am
post #67 of 219


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Originally Posted by Marianne View Post

Here is the "bad teeth" ad


Marianne:  Turn off your computer and get to the dentist, okay?!?  I'm telling you as a friend. 

You may want to think about an orthodontist, too.



post #68 of 219
I wish that WalMart had dentists offices so I could use my free gift card!  
post #69 of 219


I finally got the "Bad Teeth Ad" tonight--on two pages in a row. 

But as I tried to right-click and save the target link, I found that I couldn't.  Nor could I figure out how to get the destination link in any way.  And I'll be damned if I was going to click on the ad.  Good ol' Dr. Oz is now making appearances, too! 

Since maybe we'll be discussing the logistics of how to right-click on a flash ad and provide the requested information next year, I'll be able to figure out how to do it then. 





post #70 of 219
I don't have any pets and don't believe I've ever surfed to a site remotely related to pets on this machine, so not sure why I got it too.

Anyway, here's the link I believe Michael was asking for (re: the Scotch ad for pet hair removal at the top):

ad.afy11.net/ad

I got it by doing a right-click and copy shortcut (in IE6).  I'm not getting the Flash version of that ad in the side panel though.

Doh!  Spoke to soon.   Hmmm...  Looks like the side panel one for that Scotch ad does not actually use Flash (like some others do).  Anyhoo, here's the link for that one:

ad.afy11.net/ad

Hmmm...  Actually, looks like those links are pretty useless.  Out of curiosity, I rechecked the top version, and it has a different link than last time (like I was suspecting):

ad.afy11.net/ad

Well, maybe the mods/Huddler can still trace them back to the source and nix them somehow.  Will see I guess...

_Man_

Edited by Man-Fai Wong - 8/5/2009 at 04:34 am GMT
post #71 of 219
Basically, we have no control of the ads that come through Google or Double-ad. They seem to be generated at random and by a mechanism that suits Google, etc.
Also there appears to be some connection with the IP-address of the user (I happen to get more Dutch ads on some American sites - although not here).

Every now and then one or more of the ads we're getting annoys us and/or our members. This used to be on the previous platform as well. An example would be ads for bootleg DVDs. Whenever they were signaled, Parker would add them to a filter as well as notify the company providing it (not the original one, but Google, etc.).

I suppose the same is still going on now. Perhaps some changes because the contract may not be the same as we had, or perhaps we use different filters now, or else they changed URLs too "smartly" (that's what these firms do indeed) or there just happen to be a few new ones.

No mystery there: indeed we cannot know beforehand exactly what we will be receiving. Indeed we are not thankful for everything we're about to receive. And indeed we like to get URL's if possilble, so we can block irritating offenders.

That's mostly all to it! 
Also, as you'll understand, there's content that we rejected beforehand.
(My wicked punny side was inclined to write a typo in the word 'content', but I promise I won't do it.)

(But keep those links coming folks, I'm inclined to say!)


Cees
post #72 of 219
You're very welcome, Marianne (as you know you are  ).

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But this time it's different, as Mike Frezon points out.  It's a FLASH AD

Yes, I hate those techniques as well. Although it's possible to find out what the URL is, it would really be too complicated to instruct members to do so (I personally hate these things so much, I go to the Temprorary Internet Folder and places like that to find out).

So in that case we just ask members to describe the offender as closely as they can.

(But please, don't hold us personally responsible: we're with you and we're voicing our serious concern just like you guys do. And we're working a lot these days.  )


Cees
post #73 of 219
Cees,

Good point about checking the browser cache to find the url for the Flash ads -- had totally forgotten about doing that   even though I did check the HTML source to see if they're readily visible there, which they are not.  I'm just glad I haven't seen that nasty teeth ad so far (other than in the screen caps), but I will definitely dig into my browser cache, if I spot it.

Hmmm...  Here's another suggestion for those not inclined to dig thru their browser cache to find the url for Flash ads.  I noticed that if you right-click and go to the Flash player Settings, you can at least find the ad's domain/host name under the Privacy or Storage section of the Flash player settings like this:




FWIW, the Scotch ad (for pet hair removal) doesn't really bother me -- nor does the Wynn ad.  RE: the possible use of machine IP for ad targeting, in my case, although nobody else uses this particular machine, I guess it's possible that the ad agents are picking up some shared external IP on the other side of our company firewall, etc., and the ad could've been targeted at someone else on some other machine in our company.  Don't really know.

To all,

I'm sure most everyone here knows that quality text-based communication on the net is often a difficult proposition at best for all the usual reasons.  Misunderstanding is bound to happen, especially in relatively trying circumstances like this w/ the site transition.  Hope we can all work past the various frustrations, etc. for the better of this fine community -- and hope I didn't step out of bound for saying that...

_Man_

Edited by Man-Fai Wong - 8/5/2009 at 06:57 pm GMT
post #74 of 219
Based on Man's suggestion above, is the following information helpful to anyone?



The address that shows up in the Privacy Tab for this version of the teeth as is:

Content.yieldmanager.edgesuite.net


EDIT:  I have since been looking in my memory cache for Firefox and have been unable to determine which of the hundreds of entries might pertain to that particular ad--although many of them involve "yieldmanager."

post #75 of 219
Let me try this:  Since the time stamp on my desktop (as shown in the screen capture above) is 4:17pm, I checked for any yieldmanager-affiliated info in my Firefox cache that seemed to jibe.  Of course, I'm not sure how close my work PC's clock is to reality.

I found these two:

#1  16:17:09

#2  16:17:10

Are they what you might be looking for?!?    Or, am I just spinning my wheels here?  I have no idea if they really apply to this situation.  But I explained my rather weak detective techniques.
post #76 of 219

Mike,

 

If you're digging thru your browser cache, you might try sorting the cache display by last checked/access date/time (w/ most recent first) and then go looking for files w/ a .swf extension (or files w/ url like http://.../*.swf or http://.../*.swf?...) for the Flash ads.

 

Between that and the domain name you got off the Flash player's privacy setting tab, you should likely find what you're looking for.


Hmmm...  Looks like the domain name suggestion might not be that useful afterall.  I just checked my own browser cache, and looks like the domain I found was merely hosting the javascript code that generates and spews out the Flash ad, but is not necessarily the domain that HTF would want to block.
 

_Man_

 


Edited by Man-Fai Wong - 8/5/2009 at 10:29 pm GMT
post #77 of 219

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I just checked my own browser cache, and looks like the domain I found was merely hosting the javascript code that generates and spews out the Flash ad, but is not necessarily the domain that HTF would want to block.
 

It's the site where the ad resides alright. You just didn't get the whole URL that way:

http://m1.2mdn.net/1531490/wynn_tower_300x250_623_shell.swf

Of course this one is "innocent".


Cees
post #78 of 219

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Originally Posted by Cees Alons View Post

It's the site where the ad resides alright. You just didn't get the whole URL that way:

http://m1.2mdn.net/1531490/wynn_tower_300x250_623_shell.swf

Of course this one is "innocent".


Cees

Hehheh...  Looks like I just didn't look hard/smart enough in my browser cache.   Might've helped more if I sorted the list first by last checked date/time then by file type and then head down to the part of the listing showing just the Flash files.

Anyway, Mike/others, if you can dig thru your FireFox cache in a similar manner, you might be able to find the offending ad.  Of course, if they use the trick of scrambling the url so it's not humanly recognizable and you have a bunch of other Flash ads hosted by them, then it'll be rather difficult to identify w/out actually opening each of them up in a separate browser window to find the offending one...

_Man_
post #79 of 219
FF Flash block much easier.
post #80 of 219
Dental ad and "flashing" ad are gone.
post #81 of 219


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Originally Posted by Adam Gregorich View Post

Dental ad and "flashing" ad are gone.

What no hand clap or standing ovation smiley? It'd come in real handy right now.  Glad those adds are gone and thanks for the update.
post #82 of 219


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Originally Posted by Adam Gregorich View Post

Dental ad and "flashing" ad are gone.

Hardly.



post #83 of 219
Hmm.  Thanks for the update Mike.  I wonder if it takes a few hours to trickle the change through?  I will investigate and post and update tomorrow.
post #84 of 219
Glad to hear action was taken on especially bad ads. Kudos.
post #85 of 219
Yeah, I just got frightened by the bad teeth ad again.  Immediately followed by the flashing one.  I've never won this often in my life. 

It is good to know that they should be gone soon.

post #86 of 219
I'm still getting the same flashing "winner" and "bad teeth" ads. Hopefully it just takes time for them to get gone!

post #87 of 219
It can take up to 24 hours to make them fully stop.  FWIW I saw the same bad teeth staring at me on CNNs website, so they must think that news junkies (in addition to Home Theaterjunkies) have bad teeth too.  We just brought a new ad guy on this week.  As he gets up to speed you should see an improvement in the ad quality.  In the meantime if more teeth or flashing banners make it through please post the links here so we can make them go away.
post #88 of 219
Those teeth must be the moste tasteless things I have seen for a long time. (Or at least: a very bad taste.)

And not a very difficult ad to create either. Just dig up a skull, photoshop a face around it, and presto.

I make it a point NOT to read the name of companies behind irritating and untasteful ads (which in my view are almost all "moving" ads to begin with - the worst being the ones that start covering the text you were going to read - I mean how desperate must a group of editors be if they believe the content is still interesting when their output is totally covered?). I refuse to read them, because I think they sport that old "it doesn't matter what they say about me ..." adagium.

And I don't want to remember the names of companies having a bad taste.


(OK, did I use the notion "taste" often enough now in relation to those teeth?  )

What Adam says: don't worry, once the Huddler team puts their ... oh no, I just can't say it ... into a problem, it will be gone soon.


Cees

post #89 of 219
apparently i won a new lapyop.


post #90 of 219


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Originally Posted by TonyD View Post

apparently i won a new lapyop.


That's nothing.  I won a free scratch off!!! 


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