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post #91 of 139
10/27/09 at 8:49pm
Limited myself to the 1960s set, as that is where my greatest interest lies. 
 
I skipped around Disc One a bit, starting with “The Wally Gator Show” – mostly because (to the best of my recollection) there never was a REAL “Wally Gator Show”. The three cartoon series that comprised it were syndicated “stand-alones” (here in New York, at least) that were run as part of weekday shows starring local kiddie-hosts. 
 
“Droopy Dragon” WAS the first Wally Gator run back in 1962 (again, here in New York, at least). My recollection is clear on that. I don’t think it was the case for the other two. 
 
The Touché Turtle was somewhat dark for a Hanna-Barbera cartoon – particularly one not made for prime time. No spoilers, but imagine getting away with the line “I didn’t lose that leg in a poker game!” – or the ending gag – today! ...Or, even a few years later.
 
Lippy the Lion seemed remastered, while Wally and Touché certainly were not! Odd! 
 
How can you not love a “Bugs Bunny Show”, even if some of the Goofy Gopher interstitials were missing! They used to exist after every cartoon. I’m guessing they presented whatever was preserved. 
 
The line “Presenting that Oscar-winning Rabbit… Bugs Bunny!” was (awkwardly) excised from the opening! Could that be because “Oscar” is now copyrighted – like “Super Bowl” – and perhaps you can no longer use the term freely? 
 
And “Big House Bunny” seemed to be uncut (unlike like many a Saturday morning broadcast that I can recall), with all of the “prisoner beating”, hanging, and electric chair gags left intact! Let’s hear it for WB on that one! 
 
The end credits for “The Bugs Bunny Show” are the proper ones, as you can glimpse the titles of the cartoons (nearly microscopically) at the lower left at one point in the end credits. 
 
The original “Bugs Bunny Shows” also had teaser previews and “next week scenes”, but I don’t believe those ever survived prime time to make it into the Sat AM version of the show – so we can appreciate the “authenticity of the Sat AM experience”, if not the completeness. Now, bring on a set of “The Bugs Bunny Show”!
 
The first Quick Draw McGraw show was also great – with the original Kellogg’s opening and closing. The interstitials – where Quick Draw introduces Augie Doggie and Doggie Daddy and Snooper and Blabber – were missing… BUT the full credits to each of the three cartoons (with the writing credits for Michael Maltese and other animation credits) were there. These are usually cut for Boomerang. So, it’s a trade off. 
 
The first Quick Draw also looked pretty nice. I’ll hope the same for the second one on Disc Two. It was from the third season (1961-1962) where the familiar Hoyt Curtin music scores create no music clearance issues for WB. 
 
By this time in the run, each of the three cartoons also reference “past continuity” (maybe unusual for an animated TV show at this time?). Snooper and Blabber have a second (or maybe third) rematch with “Quick Change Quinton”, Augie Doggie again contacts his Martian friend, and Quick Draw has another outing with (now semi-regular) Snuffles, his dog biscuit-addicted blood hound. 
 
Quick Draw McGraw is a show that NEEDS a full release! Maybe good sales on this volume (and Volume One) might help matters along. 
 
That’s all I’ve done for tonight. Hope you all find these comments helpful. 
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post #92 of 139
10/28/09 at 4:34am
The Gilligan/Sealab/Valley of Dinosaurs/Banana Splits are the best episodes in my opinion. The rest of the dvd for the 1970s show is very weak and i would not be surprise if this volume has poor sales. The selection of cartoons in the 1970s could have been better. I prefer volume #1 better.

The 1960s is also very weak. I like Gulliver, but, the rest of the release is also very weak. It is almost like the studio is trying to promote lesser cartoons, instead of looking at what may interest the consumers.
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post #93 of 139
10/28/09 at 5:05am
Well. I just had time to look at the "extras." The featurette on Shazzam was the best, and the one on Magilla Gorilla filled in a few facts that I didn't know previously. For example, the word "magilla" has a yiddish meaning that the producers were concerned about during the development of the show.

While the two extras were okay. Other supplemental material on Sealab 2020, Help! It's the Hair Bear Bunch and Valley of the Dinosaurs would have been appreciated.

Or someone could have dicussed Lennie Weintrub, who did the voice for Inch High Private Eye and other Kroft and Hanna Barbara shows during the seventies. He recently passed away, and it would have been nice to have a bit more information on him. That was the era when Michael Bell and he, both did a some kind of "Don Adams--Get Smart" spin on animated characters.

I'm fairly satisfied with the discs, and I'm glad that they were able to include an episode of the Further Adventures of Gilligan, but I hope sales are strong enough to do a set 3 with Jabberjaw, Butch Cassidy, Captain Caveman,  Jennie, Clue Club, Josie and the Pussycats in Outer Space, Harlem Globetrotters, Devlin and a few other unreleased series.
I also would like to see WB do a Saturday Morning in the 80's volume for some other programs that I would like to see sampled. 

Some of the cartoon experts like Jerry Beck should briefly mention that this was before the age of the 24 cartoon and Disney networks--and how some of these shows lasted two years before the networks put them on the shelf. How they would get a first season of about 15-17 episodes, than if they were successful, they would get a second season of about 6 to 8 shows. Again that wasn't a hard and set rule--there were exceptions like Emergency + 4 which got a full second season order while Star Trek Animated only got 6 new episodes in its second year.

Some of the best things about these shows were the theme songs-- they really do stay in the mind.

James
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post #94 of 139
10/28/09 at 5:37am
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The 1960s is also very weak. I like Gulliver, but, the rest of the release is also very weak. It is almost like the studio is trying to promote lesser cartoons, instead of looking at what may interest the consumers.

Again, speaking strictly for the Sixties volume:
 
It contains BUGS BUNNY, PORKY PIG, THE ROAD RUNNER, TOM AND JERRY, QUICK DRAW McGRAW, THE JETSONS, and MAGILLA GORILLA…
 
…So how could you possibly say that?! 
 
Are these NOT iconic properties that still have notable followings today?  Certainly so, to one degree or another! 
 
And it’s nicely balanced off with some lesser lights that could use the exposure. There’s nothing wrong with that! 
 
I’ll leave the seventies discussion to those better acquainted with the period. 



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Some of the cartoon experts like Jerry Beck should briefly mention that this was before the age of the 24 cartoon and Disney networks--and how some of these shows lasted two years before the networks put them on the shelf. How they would get a first season of about 15-17 episodes, than if they were successful, they would get a second season of about 6 to 8 shows. Again that wasn't a hard and set rule--there were exceptions like Emergency + 4 which got a full second season order while Star Trek Animated only got 6 new episodes in its second year.

 

ALL of your points are great ones, James – especially this last one! 

Through no fault of their own (Perhaps they simply weren’t around – or aware – at the time!), not everyone has the ability to put these things in their proper perspective… and more background features are a MUST on a set as diverse as this! 
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post #95 of 139
10/28/09 at 6:16am
i guess i grew up for with the 1970s cartoons, since i was born in 1968. The only 1960s cartoons/shows i liked were Rocket Robin Hood, Aquaman, Superman, Batman and Robin, Jonnie Quest, Herculoids, Gullivers, etc. I guess i had expectations that with 1960s they would include more of the herculoids and a few other shows.

I was big on the 1970s shows like Jabberjaw, Jeannie, Scooby-doo, Emergency +4, New Adventures of Gilligan, Star Trek, Josie and the pussycats, etc.
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post #96 of 139
10/28/09 at 6:37am
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i guess i grew up for with the 1970s cartoons, since i was born in 1968. The only 1960s cartoons/shows i liked were Rocket Robin Hood, Aquaman, Superman, Batman and Robin, Jonnie Quest, Herculoids, Gullivers, etc. I guess i had expectations that with 1960s they would include more of the herculoids and a few other shows.

I was big on the 1970s shows like Jabberjaw, Jeannie, Scooby-doo, Emergency +4, New Adventures of Gilligan, Star Trek, Josie and the pussycats, etc.

 

Fair point, Paul. 
 
For what it’s worth, I am also disappointed at the exclusion of HERCULOIDS from the sixties set – and (in previous posts) have also suggested that they include Filmation’s 1968 BATMAN. 
 
But, both AQUAMAN and JONNY QUEST are already complete on DVD – and Filmation’s SUPERMAN is fairly well-covered – and double-dipping should be kept to a minimum! 
 
And it IS, with this sixties set. The only TRUE double dip would seem to be THE JETSONS, as MAGILLA GORILLA is presented with opening and closing title sequences, which were not part of the previous MAGILLA set. 
 
I’ll assume (though I haven’t gotten there yet) that the TOM & JERRY SHOW also has the made-for-TV sixties opening and closing sequences – that would not have belonged on the T&J Spotlight Collections – making that also not a true double-dip. 
 
But personal want-lists (both yours and mine) aside… That, in no way, should diminish the importance and appeal of Bugs Bunny, Tom and Jerry, Quick Draw, et al as icons of Sat AM Sixties Television.   
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post #97 of 139
10/28/09 at 7:31am
If it was no for licensing issues, then we could easily seen shows like Hardy Boys and Journey to the Center of the Earth, etc.

There are some shows like Laurel & Hardy or Beatles or Abbott & Costello. You could really group Banana Splits as 1960s show rather than classifying it as 1970s show. Banana Splits was run in syndication in the 1970s.

For what it is worth i do have Jonnie Quest/Aquaman/Superman/Space Ghost and Dino Boy/Perils of Penelope Pittsop and Dastardy flying machines. I am always on the lookout for more cartoons that complement my collection.

I agree with Batman cartoon from 1968 should be release. It is interesting they release the 1977 version of the show, but, not the 1968 version.

Did anyone see the back of the dvd were it has disclaimer these cartoons are suited for adult audience and may not be suitable for kids (gee, i wonder what market they are pushing these dvds too?, lol)
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post #98 of 139
10/28/09 at 7:33am
I was born in 1965 and so pretty much grew up with the same 70's period as you but I disagree with your assesment of the 70's volume. I never cared for Valley of the Dinosaurs or Sealab. I thought the best stuff was: Tom and Jerry/Grape Ape, Hair Bear Bunch, Inch High Private Eye, Banana Splits. I'd say this volume is on par with the 1st. But everyone will like different stuff from these eras thats why they can't please everyone with their choices. I'm still sad that these collections almost certainly spell the end for all the complete Hanna Barbera sets we got which I would have greatly preferred for all these shows. We will probably get one or two more of these volumes and that will probably be it for Hanna Barbera on DVD with the exception of a few more scooby doo releases.

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i guess i grew up for with the 1970s cartoons, since i was born in 1968. The only 1960s cartoons/shows i liked were Rocket Robin Hood, Aquaman, Superman, Batman and Robin, Jonnie Quest, Herculoids, Gullivers, etc. I guess i had expectations that with 1960s they would include more of the herculoids and a few other shows.

I was big on the 1970s shows like Jabberjaw, Jeannie, Scooby-doo, Emergency +4, New Adventures of Gilligan, Star Trek, Josie and the pussycats, etc.

 
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post #99 of 139
10/28/09 at 1:15pm
 if the give us part 3, there better be Devlin and a globetrotter show
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post #100 of 139
10/28/09 at 1:21pm
along with jabberjaw or captain caveman or skatebirds.
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post #101 of 139
10/28/09 at 2:57pm
I’ve completed the sixties set and (A) it meets or exceeds (mostly meets) my expectations based on the previous set and (B) does not fall short of the previous set in any unexpected way. Personal preference of shows selected, notwithstanding. Everyone’s mileage will vary on THAT but, overall, they did a fine job with it. 
 
There are two areas in which it is significantly improved over its predecessor.
 
One is in MENU NAVIGATION – that allows you to view the shows as a WHOLE and also as individual cartoons. Volume One, in most cases, returned you to the menu each time a cartoon ended – rather than allow you to watch the complete show without having to work your remote. Thanks to WHV for recognizing that problem! 
 
Two is that it is INTERSTITIAL HEAVEN! So many lost or forgotten little bits of shows turn up here! 
 
The interstitials for BOTH Quick Draw McGraw Shows – where Quick Draw introduces Augie Doggie and Doggie Daddy and Snooper and Blabber – were missing… BUT the full credits to each of the three cartoons (with the writing credits for Michael Maltese and other animation credits) were there.
 
They also have the FULL original Kellogg’s opening and closing, which were trimmed from the shows on Volume One. 
 
“The Bugs Bunny Show” has SOME, but not all, of the interstitials. Still very worthwhile! 
 
“The Porky Pig Show” has many of the same interstitials as did Volume One – but there is one different one of Porky and Daffy (existing footage from a McKimson cartoon) and there is what appears to be one that might have been originally produced for “The Bugs Bunny Show” (of Bugs playing a piano – on the “stage background” for “The Bugs Bunny Show” that sets up “Baton Bunny”! 
 
“The Road Runner Show” has many (about five) Road Runner and Wyle E. Coyote interstitials that bookend all of the commercial breaks. They appear to have been done by Rudy Larriva, who WAS doing the Road Runner theatrical cartoons at the time, and have Bill Lava music as did the contemporary cartoons. Yes, I know how most folks feel about Larriva and Lava vs. Chuck Jones and Carl Stalling (So do I!) but they are interesting “lost” bits – and have value in that alone!   
 
On the minus side, about the last two seconds of “The Wild Chase” is cut off (where “THE END” is spelled out by the final explosion – compare it with your LOONEY TUNES GOLDEN COLLECTION Volume 4. Though I DO believe that’s the way it was shown on “The Road Runner Show” back in the day – and, frankly, I doubt anyone really cares if that one is slightly nicked, if it reflects the Sat AM TV experience.
 
“Zip and Snort” is very washed-out in places, but the other two cartoons are kinda okay.
 
Atom Ant, surprisingly, has two interstitials – one for Atom Ant and one for Precious Pupp! 
 
And, best for last, Tom and Jerry has the original sixties opening and closings! The opening is mostly stock clips from the Hanna and Barbera days – with an ending gag produced by the Chuck Jones Unit, which was making the current theatricals. There are also a few Jones Unit interstitials throughout the show!   So, here’s your chance to see some lost Jones (or Levittow/Noble) animation! 
 
I recall more than one opening credit sequence… distinctly one that ended with Jerry flying a “rocket-powered cream pie” (!) into Tom’s face with the “Tom and Jerry” logo appearing over that! So, there are more such goodies that can appear in future volumes. 
 
As with many of you, I’d prefer season or series sets of many of these properties – over this format (Quick Draw Mc Graw, The Bugs Bunny Show, The Herculoids, and Peter Potamus above all!).
 
BUT, in my view, Saturday Morning Cartoons 1960s Volume Two is improved in certain ways (like less double dipping, navigation, and interstitials) over its predecessor – and I look forward to Volume Three! 
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post #102 of 139
10/28/09 at 8:20pm
I have been enjoying both of these sets -- it's great to have so much of the Saturday morning Warner Bros. experience here -- Bugs Bunny/Road Runner was a weekly ritual and it's great to see it in that format again, and so much long-unseen interstitial material. I got a great kick out of seeing the cartoons with their short Saturday morning TV title cards -- thought those were more or less "lost forever."

Everyone has their favorites -- for me, the absolute highlight is the Banana Splits Adventure Hour, which is actually presented in its one-hour Saturday morning NBC format. This show (episode 1) looks like it's sourced right from the one-inch video master -- it's not perfect, it's clearly unrestored and it's a later repeat version (with a couple missing skits at the top of the show replaced with footage from other episodes) and it's a re-edited Season 1 show with Season 2 titles, credits, bumpers and sponsor billboards. But you know what? That's OK with me -- I mean the show actually has TWO (count 'em) Kellogg's sponsor billboards intact...I picked up the so-called "Complete Season 1" from the UK which is actually just the cut half-hour syndicated shows -- even though they are in much cleaner condition, this is a zillion times better (this was my favorite show as a kid, so please bear with me). I would love for Warner Archive to put the rest of them out as a set -- maybe it's more feasible that way given the condition of the masters.

What else can I say beyond what others have mentioned...Quick Draw McGraw Kellogg's titles in color...Atom Ant with interstitials...completely restored Tom & Jerry/Grape Ape Show...these sets are really just "samplers," but they've dug up some bits and pieces I never thought would see the light of day again.

If there's a volume 3, I'd love to see some Huckleberry Hound beyond what was included in the "Volume 1" set -- which so far is the sole HH release. There's a rumor the Kellogg's opening might exist in color. Would love to see it and would love to see more of the interstitials...

Like some others have said, it is a little frustrating just to get one or two shows of a series -- Hanna-Barbera season sets seem to have been phased out, but maybe we might eventually see more through Warner Archive -- I would love that.

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post #103 of 139
10/29/09 at 1:32am
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If there's a volume 3, I'd love to see some Huckleberry Hound beyond what was included in the "Volume 1" set -- which so far is the sole HH release. There's a rumor the Kellogg's opening might exist in color. Would love to see it and would love to see more of the interstitials...

Like some others have said, it is a little frustrating just to get one or two shows of a series -- Hanna-Barbera season sets seem to have been phased out, but maybe we might eventually see more through Warner Archive -- I would love that.


Great post, Mark! 
 
No one… Trust me… NO ONE wants to see more Huckleberry Hound than I do. HH was for me what The Banana Splits seems to be for you. Boards are littered with my pleas. However, HH was never a Sat AM series – playing it’s original run in late afternoon early evening weekday times slots, in major markets. 
 
BUT, if an afternoon syndicated series like Wally Gator could make its way into Volume Two (…and NOT AT ALL am I complaining about THAT!), maybe anything could happen! 
 
Either way, if “full-bodied” Hanna-Barbera sets are no longer in the cards at WHV (…who, let’s face it, have cheapened and diminished their animated product of late – and seem more interested in doling-out bite-size scraps of already-released Scooby-Doo and Tom and Jerry material, than unearthing more of their unreleased treasures), I’ll take more of these “Sat AM Catch-All” sets… and hope Warner Archive endures long enough to offer the animation sets many of us crave! 
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post #104 of 139
10/29/09 at 9:20am
Would have liked to see more of The Impossibles on this set, but otherwise, the line-up looks good, and I am looking forward to getting into Vol. 2.
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post #105 of 139
10/29/09 at 2:33pm
Joe Tor1 wrote:
No one… Trust me… NO ONE wants to see more Huckleberry Hound than I do. HH was for me what The Banana Splits seems to be for you. Boards are littered with my pleas. However, HH was never a Sat AM series – playing it’s original run in late afternoon early evening weekday times slots, in major markets. 

You and I have something in common because I consider myself to be the world's biggest Huckleberry Hound fan.  For a wedding present, a friend made my wife and I a stained glass Huckleberry Hound picture.  It is fantastic!  Anyway, I am going to get these sets at Christmas (are you listening, Santa?).

Don't forget that on November 17th Warner Archives is releasing on DVD "Yogi's First Christmas."  This is a must for H-B fans.
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post #106 of 139
10/29/09 at 3:43pm
i am more 1970s cartoon fan, so, if they release another version then should look at the following:

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post #107 of 139
10/29/09 at 7:16pm
I'd love top see Jeannie but it is not under Warner's ownership. It's under Sony, like the live action show. Still they might work up a deal.
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post #108 of 139
10/30/09 at 3:53am
yeah, i agree about the ownership of Jeannie, However, what is interesting that Scooby-doo Laff-lympics volume #1 is being released and Babu's character is attached to this released. So, there is a chance this can happen.

I am more concern about not getting full release on cartoons. I would really like to add to my collection the complete series for New Adventures of Gilligan/Jabberjaw/Captain Caveman/Speed Buggy/Herculoids/Goober and the Ghost Chasers/Partridge Family 2200AD/Jeannie/Banana Splt/Skatebirds/funky phantom, etc.

The volumes are fine, because you never please everyone, because people have different tastes. I for one like the 1970s and late 1960s cartoon with more emphasis on sci-fi/mystery solving cartoons. I was not a big fan bugs bunny/etc. However, i do respect people that do like those cartoons.
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post #109 of 139
10/30/09 at 5:06am
I'd like to see the seventies Addams Family animated series, along with the sixties Fantastic Four. Again ownership issues.

James
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post #110 of 139
10/30/09 at 7:01pm
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You and I have something in common because I consider myself to be the world's biggest Huckleberry Hound fan.  For a wedding present, a friend made my wife and I a stained glass Huckleberry Hound picture.  It is fantastic!  Anyway, I am going to get these sets at Christmas (are you listening, Santa?).

 

Well, Greg… I think that tops me! I just watched the show from its earliest days (and MY earliest days), have all the comics, do frequent Blog posts on Huck, and pick up the odd collectable here and there. Never considered stained glass wedding presents, though! Heartfelt congrats! 
 
But, hopefully, there’s room for two of us – and enough more to move WHV into releasing more of our favorite classic animated show. 
 
Oh, how I want “Piccadilly Dilly”, “Cop and Saucer”, “Huck’s Hack”, “Spud Dud”, “Cluck and Dagger”, and my favorite Yogi “Rah-Rah Bear!” …Even though Yogi beats my New York Giants! 

Even with no Huck, you’ll enjoy the sets. Especially 1960s Volume Two.
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post #111 of 139
10/30/09 at 7:23pm
I can't wait.  I have never met another Huckleberry Hound fan like me.  It is great to know that I am in good company.  I noticed our blue dog is on the back of the DVD case.  I want to see all of Huck's cartoons on DVD as well.  I keep hoping.

You sound like your #1 hobby is the same as mine.  Huck collecting is my number one thing.

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Well, Greg… I think that tops me! I just watched the show from its earliest days (and MY earliest days), have all the comics, do frequent Blog posts on Huck, and pick up the odd collectable here and there. Never considered stained glass wedding presents, though! Heartfelt congrats! 
 
But, hopefully, there’s room for two of us – and enough more to move WHV into releasing more of our favorite classic animated show. 
 
Oh, how I want “Piccadilly Dilly”, “Cop and Saucer”, “Huck’s Hack”, “Spud Dud”, “Cluck and Dagger”, and my favorite Yogi “Rah-Rah Bear!” …Even though Yogi beats my New York Giants! 

Even with no Huck, you’ll enjoy the sets. Especially 1960s Volume Two.
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post #112 of 139
10/31/09 at 1:46pm
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I can't wait.  I have never met another Huckleberry Hound fan like me.  It is great to know that I am in good company.  I noticed our blue dog is on the back of the DVD case.  I want to see all of Huck's cartoons on DVD as well.  I keep hoping.

You sound like your #1 hobby is the same as mine.  Huck collecting is my number one thing.

 


I bet Huck showed up on the back of the case (1970s Vol. 2) because of his appearance in Yogi's Gang. By the way, Warner did release a single-disc compilation called Cartoon Crack-Ups (before any of the Hanna-Barbera season sets were released) which includes "Spud Dud." It wouldn't surprise me at all, assuming this series gets as far as a third volume, to see Huckleberry Hound represented. It seems like a no-brainer, given that they never got past the first season. Of course, there are two other ways they could go with it -- assuming Huckleberry Hound does not have the same music licensing issues as Quick Draw McGraw -- Huck could end up as a Warner Archive project, or maybe as a UK release like The Banana Splits. Vintage Hanna-Barbera does seem to have retained more popularity in Europe than in its country of origin.


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yeah, i agree about the ownership of Jeannie, However, what is interesting that Scooby-doo Laff-lympics volume #1 is being released and Babu's character is attached to this released. So, there is a chance this can happen.

 

The difference is the Babu character was a Hanna-Barbera creation, while the Jeannie character was licensed from Columbia/Screen Gems (now Sony) for the original 1970s Jeannie cartoon series. That's why Babu appeared on Laff-A-Lympics, but not Jeannie. If I'm not mistaken, Jeannie also appeared in an episode of The New Scooby-Doo Movies, and that was one of several episodes left off that show's DVD set because of licensing issues with characters and real-life names and likenesses owned by other entities. (Although it really seems like a "no-brainer" of a missed opportunity to me for WB to have included Josie & The Pussycats' appearance on The New Scooby-Doo Movies as an "extra" on the Josie & The Pussycats DVD set, once they did manage to license the characters. But maybe the rights issues were more complicated than it would appear on the surface.)

What I would really like to see is all the various shows get full releases. But I'm probably preaching to the choir on that one...
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post #113 of 139
10/31/09 at 2:03pm
Regarding the ownership of various shows, or even parts of shows which eventually got split between more than one company...it can be a confusing thing at best. Back in 1977, there was a syndicated show called Fred Flintstone And Friends, which was originally distributed by Columbia Pictures Television (formerly Screen Gems). It contained segments of the following shows:

Pebbles And Bamm-Bamm
The Flintstone Comedy Hour
Yogi's Gang (including Yogi's Ark Lark)
Goober And The Ghost Chasers
Jeannie
The Partridge Family 2020 AD

Screen Gems/Columbia had distributed most of Hanna-Barbera's shows before they got bought out by Taft and at that time, The Flintstones, Yogi Bear, Huckleberry Hound, Quick Draw McGraw and The Jetsons were all still part of that deal. Jeannie and Partridge Family both featured characters based on Screen Gems TV sitcoms. Goober And The Ghost Chasers seems like the odd one out, although the Partridge Family kids did appear in a couple episodes. So do you see a common thread? Yet today, all but the last two shows listed above are part of the "main" Hanna-Barbera library held by Warner Bros.

Same thing for The New Adventures Of Gilligan, which was produced by Filmation. I realize a lot of Filmation shows used licensed characters owned by other studios, and in the majority of the cases, ownership ended up reverting to whoever owned the characters. (Like Star Trek/Paramount, Batman/DC Comics, etc.) Still, they had another one of those "everything but the kitchen sink" syndicated repackage shows -- The Groovie Goolies And Friends -- which included:

Groovie Goolies
My Favorite Martians
The New Adventures Of Gilligan
The Secret Lives Of Waldo Kitty
Uncle Croc's Block (animated segments only: M*U*S*H, Wacky & Packy, Fraidy Cat)

..did I forget any? Anyway, Groovie Goolies got a DVD release through BCI (when they had a license on the Filmation library) but meanwhile, Sabrina The Teenage Witch (which at various times was combined with either Groovie Goolies or the Archie shows during its Saturday morning network run) ended up with Genius Entertainment along with the rest of the Archie shows -- and those episodes include a lot of appearances by the Groovie Goolies.

Like I said, it can be confusing...
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post #114 of 139
11/1/09 at 12:42am
When Yogi's Gang originally aired on ABC TV on Saturday mornings, it was distributed by Screen Gems.  The Screen Gems logo appeared right after the H-B logo of the end credits.  I think it was the same thing with the Flintstones characters and their shows in the early 1970's as well, but don't quote me on that.

I think there is still hope for a second Huckleberry Hound DVD set.  In particular, if this CG animated/live action Yogi Bear movie shows up on the big screen, WHV will probably release everything related to Yogi on DVD, and I am hoping that would include more of The Huckleberry Hound Show.

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Regarding the ownership of various shows, or even parts of shows which eventually got split between more than one company...it can be a confusing thing at best. Back in 1977, there was a syndicated show called Fred Flintstone And Friends, which was originally distributed by Columbia Pictures Television (formerly Screen Gems). It contained segments of the following shows:

Pebbles And Bamm-Bamm
The Flintstone Comedy Hour
Yogi's Gang (including Yogi's Ark Lark)
Goober And The Ghost Chasers
Jeannie
The Partridge Family 2020 AD

Screen Gems/Columbia had distributed most of Hanna-Barbera's shows before they got bought out by Taft and at that time, The Flintstones, Yogi Bear, Huckleberry Hound, Quick Draw McGraw and The Jetsons were all still part of that deal.
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post #115 of 139
11/1/09 at 3:19pm
it is good to see there are people like me out there in cyber space that have a craving for saturday morning cartoons. I just like to see more sets released. I have several of the completed series, but, i have a craving for shows like New Adventues of Gilligan, Speed Buggy, Jabberjaw and several other ones. I just purchased space ghos and dino boy. I like sci-fi cartoons that is why i hope they released the herculoids.

I also believe there was Yogi Bear's space race as well. i did see that Scooby-doo Laff lmpics volume #1 is coming out in January. I am going to purchase this volume. I just order my Rocket Robin Hood volume #1.
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post #116 of 139
11/6/09 at 7:26am
Dig my thumbs-up review of The New Tom & Jerry/Grape Ape Show on the set!
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post #117 of 139
11/8/09 at 8:35pm
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I'd love top see Jeannie but it is not under Warner's ownership. It's under Sony, like the live action show.


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yeah, i agree about the ownership of Jeannie


It's more complicated than that.

Sony owns the show, the concept, and the character of Jeannie.  WB/HB, OTOH, owns all the other characters (Babu, et al.) that appeared in the series.
Edited by LizH - 11/8/09 at 8:47pm
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post #118 of 139
11/9/09 at 2:19am
Has anybody heard how well the set 2 editions are selling on Amazon?


James
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post #119 of 139
11/9/09 at 2:44am
i have not heard anything. I am sure it will have a decent following, like the previous volumes. However, i do have concerns around wanting to get more of the full series. The volumes are like teasers that have you wanted more. I still like to have the following in my dvd collection:

1. Speed Buggy
2. JabberJaw
3. New Adventures of Gilligan
4. Sealab 2020
5. Goomber and the Ghost Chaser
6. Scooby Doo Laff-A-Lmpics
7. Funky Phantom
8. Partridge Family 2200 AD
9 Captain Caveman
10. Banana Splits Adventure Houre
11. the Skatebirds
12. Batman 1968 (Cartoon)

I have many more like to see released, but, i guess we need to patience. The only tv i watch anymore is on dvd. I hate the tv shows today and refuse to watch them.
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post #120 of 139
11/13/09 at 9:20am
A report on TV Shows on DVD says that it is possible a third volume will be produced for the 1970s SMC, and a first volume for the 1980s. Apparently, the 1960s volumes didn't sell as well as Warner hoped.
Check out the article:
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Bugs-Bunny-Looney-Tunes-Comedy-Hour-DVD-Plans/12959

Also, has anyone else noticed that in the 1970s Vol. 1, during Goober & the Ghost Chasers, the animators' numbers are clearly visible at the bottom of the screen? You can also see unfinished background art at the bottom edge.
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