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post #31 of 70

Re: "laserdisc is dead! long live the laserdisc!"

My earliest memory is of visiting my uncle who had a laserdisc of Raiders of the Lost Ark playing in the living room on a 25-inch RCA TV. When the movie was over and he whips out what looked like a record but shiny metallic I was naturally dumbfounded. This was 1983. It wasn't until I got out of high school in the early 90's that I realized what I had seen in my uncle's living room was a laserdisc. Widescreen Review magazine was the only publication that covered the format (that I knew of) and that's how I furthered my knowledge of it but by then DVD was around the corner and decided not to buy into it. They were expensive indeed but I really loved that they came in such beautiful packaging. Many people dismiss artwork (or packaging) as unimportant and nitpicky but I think it's one of the most appealing things about the movie-watching (and collecting) experience and for me it is a big deal. And laserdisc supplements were actually more interesting and analytical, as I later discovered when I read Widescreen Review's best-ever laserdiscs issue in 1998. Imagine what that King Kong commentary that Criterion recorded in 1985 would be like listening to today! (and what it would fetch on the collector's market)
post #32 of 70

Re: "laserdisc is dead! long live the laserdisc!"

Thanks for all of the compliments !!!

On the dvd of Oliver, 1776, ten Commandments, the studios had basically the same material I used, but especialy in the case of 1776, they don't sound as good. Oliver is really terrible.
post #33 of 70

Re: "laserdisc is dead! long live the laserdisc!"

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Originally Posted by Joe Caps
Thanks for all of the compliments !!!

On the dvd of Oliver, 1776, ten Commandments, the studios had basically the same material I used, but especialy in the case of 1776, they don't sound as good. Oliver is really terrible.

I also have held on to the Oliver LD all these years and it is still the best version around. Thanks for entertainment and I am glad I can actually thank someone who worked so hard on it. As for as the 1776 LD, I still bring it out every 4th of July and show it to friends.
post #34 of 70
Thread Starter 

Re: "laserdisc is dead! long live the laserdisc!"

I want only to say THANKS to all the posters and readers - 1000 views in a week is not bad for a laserdisc thread!

I think I will ask questions as separate threads, to be more focused on the laserdisc - as the laser is on its surface ;-)

Andrea
post #35 of 70
This coming Sunday I'm going to be running a movie night for a group of friends, using my LaserDisc library as the source material.  No matter how you count, I have above 400 Japanese animation LDs (somewhere above 500 considering, e.g., the individual volumes of a complete 96-episode TV series in a single boxset), about half of which have come within the past year.  I recently acquired an overlay generator to permit superimposing subtitles on the Japanese ones, for the benefit of an Anglophone audience.
post #36 of 70
I sold most of my 1400 laserdiscs, but I still have around 100 titles, many of which have not been released on DVD yet. I will miss my laser buying days...nothing will ever come close to my joy at buying the new releases each week at Tower Records.
post #37 of 70
Jay -  "nothing will ever come close to my joy at buying the new releases each week at Tower Records."

I used to purchase a bunch of LDs at Media Play in the '90s.  For myself, the most fun I had with Laser Disc (in terms of purchases) was scoring a rare title on Ebay.  The TRON boxset and the Star Wars (new edition) boxset were two favorites.

My favorite Laser Disc remains the Criterion CAV version of Citizen Kane (purchased from Ken Cranes.)

- Walter.
post #38 of 70
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Originally Posted by Walter Kittel View Post

Jay -  "nothing will ever come close to my joy at buying the new releases each week at Tower Records."

I used to purchase a bunch of LDs at Media Play in the '90s.  For myself, the most fun I had with Laser Disc (in terms of purchases) was scoring a rare title on Ebay.  The TRON boxset and the Star Wars (new edition) boxset were two favorites.

My favorite Laser Disc remains the Criterion CAV version of Citizen Kane (purchased from Ken Cranes.)

- Walter.
 


Over the last few years of my laser buying, I did buy mostly from Ken Cranes, but getting those boxes in the mail just wasn't the same as the retail experience, although I did save more money.

As we get further and further away from the Laser era, I'm sure the discs will become more and more of a curiosity/conversation piece whenever someone visits my place.
post #39 of 70
We had a couple great laserdisc stores in the Boston area - "Laser Craze" was Downtown (and latter on Newburry Street) and "Sight And Sound" in Waltham.

I went to Ken Cranes twice on trips to the west coast in the mid-1990's! 
post #40 of 70
I'm still collecting Laserdisc's and hardware, and all formats live very happily together.

Laserdisc never died for me personally..........IT'S STILL STRONG IN MY SETUP:)
post #41 of 70

At this point I still collect but after seeing how incredibly hard it is to find certain LD's its getting more and more expensive as the years go by. One site has Xmen I think for 425.00 which seems incredibly cruel seeing hes probably the only one in the whole US that even has a copy. Some good ones I still have but rare isnt even in the lineup yet except The Iron Giant and maybe a Transformers Beast Wars boxset bought at  convention some years ago. Ill still encourage anyone who wants to collect LD's just keep at it.

 

Pioneer1

post #42 of 70

What happened with that book?

post #43 of 70

And lots not forget that the sound is usually much better on the Laserdisc for a title than on the DVD release, sometimes to an alarming degree. Whether it stems from remixing, noise reduction, filtering, or compression, so many grand musicals sound SO much better in their Laserdisc incarnations. However, the picture quality... It was the best when it was new, but technology has marched on in that regard. With lossless soundtracks possible on Blu-ray, we finally have a format that can exceed the sound on a good Laserdisc (as long as they don't foul things up with remixes, noise reduction, etc.).

post #44 of 70

Nice thread to revive.  Just read through it, enjoying a trip down memory lane.  I bought my first LDs at Ken Crane's (my favorite: the original Criterion AMBERSONS), before finding that in those days I couldn't continue supporting that habit... till years later when I was able to relive that part of my life thanks to eBay where I bought voraciously at pennies on the dollar for a while.  I've since acquired the few hundred that make sense for me to keep around these days, and what's surprising is that I can still, even now, today, learn about a heretofore unknown one to seek out for whatever reason.

 

And how nice, as others have already said, to be able to thank the person behind the Pioneer Special Editions.  As we speak, I am taking out the 1776 to have at the ready for showing to some 1776-loving friends, who have no idea the treat they have in store.

post #45 of 70

Well, speaking of 1776, neither the PSE Laserdisc or the DVD release is the best way to view the movie...

post #46 of 70

It's sad that the best sound is from the Laserdisc but the best picture is from DVD. What is a collector to do? :-) There are options, believe it or not.

post #47 of 70

I remember when DVD first came out. I bought laser disc instead for the star wars trilogy, which lives on now on DVD-R. I bought a used player then and shortly later moved on to the DVL919. I am concerned about my current player dying on me one day. I'm sure I will be looking on ebay for a spare at some point until they are all copied to DVD. And yes, there is the cool factor with laser disc.

post #48 of 70

Someone really needs to assemble a list of all titles on laserdisc not yet out on DVD.

 

This would need to include films that are out on DVD but were not as good as the laserdisc editions - with regards to transfers,formating,extras.

post #49 of 70

I still have nearly 1900 laserdiscs in my collection, among them the Japanese LD of SONG OF THE SOUTH and the recalled THE BEST OF ROGER RABBIT.

 

I've told this story before, but it's a good one so it's worth repeating. A few years ago I went to the Chiller Theater convention in New Jersey, and one of the celebrity guests was Pee-Wee Herman. I brought along my laserdisc jacket of PEE-WEE'S PLAYHOUSE CHRISTMAS SPECIAL for him to sign. When he saw it he said, "Wow, I love laserdiscs." Then he told me a story about the last time he moved. He hired some neighborhood teenagers to help pack his things, and one of them got the job of packing his laserdiscs. The kid obviously had no idea what a laserdisc was, because when he finished he labeled the boxes "Giant CDs.".

post #50 of 70

Giant CD's. That is priceless. Manhunter Ive understood is better on LD than it is on dvd. Im not sure how though so someone with technical knowledge would probably know.

post #51 of 70

Laserdisc is still my choice  item to get autographed. I still have the Pioneer Harryhausen special editions signed, the Platoon w/book signed by Oliver Stone, and the French Connection double feature by Gene Hackman. My current favorite, a couple of months ago Raquel Welch signed my One Million BC disc.

post #52 of 70
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Originally Posted by Jay E View Post

I sold most of my 1400 laserdiscs, but I still have around 100 titles, many of which have not been released on DVD yet. I will miss my laser buying days...nothing will ever come close to my joy at buying the new releases each week at Tower Records.



My wife and I used to make a monthly trip to pick out a disc at Tower Records too.  I'm down to about 200 or so.  Just watched George of the Jungle with my 4yo twins a few weeks ago.  Only released in pan n scan on DVD.

post #53 of 70

Good point there, about laserdiscs being the best item to get signed.  Wish I'd thought of that on a couple of occasions.  Same applies to record jackets, of course.

post #54 of 70
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Originally Posted by Luisito34 View Post

My earliest memory is of visiting my uncle who had a laserdisc of Raiders of the Lost Ark playing in the living room on a 25-inch RCA TV. When the movie was over and he whips out what looked like a record but shiny metallic I was naturally dumbfounded. This was 1983. It wasn't until I got out of high school in the early 90's that I realized what I had seen in my uncle's living room was a laserdisc. Widescreen Review magazine was the only publication that covered the format (that I knew of) and that's how I furthered my knowledge of it but by then DVD was around the corner and decided not to buy into it. They were expensive indeed but I really loved that they came in such beautiful packaging. Many people dismiss artwork (or packaging) as unimportant and nitpicky but I think it's one of the most appealing things about the movie-watching (and collecting) experience and for me it is a big deal. And laserdisc supplements were actually more interesting and analytical, as I later discovered when I read Widescreen Review's best-ever laserdiscs issue in 1998. Imagine what that King Kong commentary that Criterion recorded in 1985 would be like listening to today! (and what it would fetch on the collector's market)


Yes, it's really unfortunate that the late Ron Haver's incredibly informative commentary for the initial Criterion Collection laser was not carried forward to future re-issues or to DVD. I remember it was awesome.
 

post #55 of 70

I Heard Ken Cranes is closing down all their stores - sad really, best part of trips to SoCal was buying discs as Ken Cranes' Laserdisc store.

post #56 of 70
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Yes, it's really unfortunate that the late Ron Haver's incredibly informative commentary for the initial Criterion Collection laser was not carried forward to future re-issues or to DVD. I remember it was awesome.
 


Ron Haver's terrific commentary on the Criterion laser of Singin' in the Rain is far, far better than the pieced-together track that is on the most recent DVD.

 


 

post #57 of 70

I sold my collection of about 400 and my Pioneer DVL-700 a few months ago.

 

I kept my signed copies of "Robinson Crusor on Mars" (Mantee signed), "Radar Men from the Moon" (George Wallace) and "War of the Worlds" (Ann Robinson).

 

Sold "Radar Men from the Moon", but will sell the other two at $50 each thru PayPal and with free shipping.

 

It was time to move on but very difficult to part with them.

post #58 of 70

Did anybody shop at Dave's Video The Laser Place back in the day? That place was like Laserdisc Shangri-La for me in the late 80's and early 90's.

 

When I was in college, I "borrowed" my Dad's credit card to rent the letterboxed Japanese import of Star Wars from them. Running the spaceship explosions back and forth in CAV was great fun. Try doing that with DVD or Blu Ray!

 

I noticed on the news coverage of the 30th anniversary screening of Empire, more than a few people were handing Harrison Ford Laserdisc jackets to sign.

post #59 of 70

I never got a chance to go to Daves. I only went to Lazer Blazer on Olympic, Ken Cranes on Beach and sometimes Tower Records on Sunset.

 

post #60 of 70

I was living in Redondo Beach in the mid-80's, and Ken Crane's in Torrance was where I acquired my first laserdiscs.  Still got the good ones.  Tower on Sunset, too, and I will never forget one of my blissful evenings in the classical store when they were playing the Glenn Gould laserdiscs with 20 to 30 customers standing around watching, or browsing, but all in hushed attention.  I guess he had just died when the LDs were being released.  One of many magical moments in a great store.

 

(Got the first LD player as a special offered at Rogersound Labs.  Anyone remember them?)

 

Also from Ken Crane's:  the 25" (yes! the big one!) Mitsubishi monitor which, a quarter of a century later, still provides a fine CRT picture that I'll be sorry to see go when it's time to "move on" in that particular room.  (And that day is soon, say I with mixed emotions.)


Edited by Chas in CT - 6/22/10 at 7:47am
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