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post #1 of 43
6/16/09 at 12:44pm
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LaBeouf Says Next Indiana Jones Moving Forward
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post #2 of 43
6/16/09 at 1:36pm

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Big grain of salt, considering the source and the amount of time it took them to agree on the story for Indy 4.
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post #3 of 43
6/16/09 at 1:38pm

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Considering they talked about Indy IV for at least a decade, I'll believe it when LFL makes a real announcement about it. If the movie happens, I look forward to it but I dread the inevitable "i h8 u, Luca$" internet stupidity that will undoubtedly follow it from now to years after its release.
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post #4 of 43
6/16/09 at 1:43pm
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I’m ready for an Indy 5 movie. All the Indy movies are not going to be 5 star movies, but I look forward to another adventure in the Indy series.
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post #5 of 43
6/16/09 at 2:23pm

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I'm not exactly believing it til I see it, but I'd definitely love another one. Crystal Skull wasn't the best thing I've ever seen in the history of the universe, but I thought it was great fun and loved every minute of it. I'll be back in line if they decide to do another.
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post #6 of 43
6/16/09 at 4:00pm

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Well, at least this time, Spielberg seems to be the one more enthusiastic about the project.

The last go around, Lucas kept pushing for an alien themed movie while Spielberg and Ford seemed to resist for decades. They finally relented and ended up with a film that I wouldn't be surprised if all three weren't entirely satisfied with.
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post #7 of 43
6/17/09 at 10:03am

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I'm certain it will happen considering how much 4 made. I thought KotCS was the worst in the series, a big part of that due to the very cartoon'ish effects for a live action movie. That aside, I look forward to a 5.
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post #8 of 43
6/17/09 at 10:28am

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Originally Posted by Ron-P
I'm certain it will happen considering how much 4 made. I thought KotCS was the worst in the series, a big part of that due to the very cartoon'ish effects for a live action movie.
Isn't that one of the series' trademarks? The effects have always been less than perfect. Given that ILM is the driving force behind these films, I'd always assumed it was a conscious choice in line with the old-fashioned "retro" feel of the series.

Vampires are hot now. Maybe Indy should tangle with a coven of vamps.
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post #9 of 43
6/17/09 at 10:53am

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Having just watched all 4 IJ movies on consecutive nights, I noticed the effects all had the same feel about them. In fact, the only film that felt a bit out of place was Temple of Doom, but it wasn't due to effects, rather it was the darker tone of the story.
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post #10 of 43
6/17/09 at 12:33pm

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Big grain of salt, considering the source and the amount of time it took them to agree on the story for Indy 4.

Well, if they do want to do another one, they know they can't wait another 19 years
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post #11 of 43
6/17/09 at 1:38pm

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I've been hoping since I saw the last one in the theater last year, that all parties involved would want to redeem themselves.

If they would stop it with contrived additions like relationships in Skull, drop the science fiction, and a lot - I mean a lot less CGI and it would easily be better.

Just make a good movie that makes sense for Ford's age. They most certainly can do decent story that might also fit in with the times (Cold War instead of WW2). There are so many possibilities.

Honestly I would like to see 2 more made - 5 being a solid and redeeming film and another being essentially Indy's last adventure - it doesn't formally need to be that way, but just a good story to put closure on the Harrison Ford version of Indy....

and then down the road, follow the current trend of rebooting and take us back earlier in the 20th century...
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post #12 of 43
6/17/09 at 1:58pm

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See, I want more cold war sci-fi plots - I think that was a particularly brilliant move on Lucas's part, having Indy's adventures reflect the Saturday matinees of the period (swashbucklers for the 30s, implications of spy work during the war years, paranoid sci-fi in the 50s). It's among the most clever bits of a thoroughly enjoyable movie.

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Isn't that one of the series' trademarks? The effects have always been less than perfect.
I don't know if it's a trademark or deliberate, but, yeah, there have always been dodgy effects. A local theater showed all four last fall, and I couldn't help but notice that there was some awkward matte work in all three movies.

Apparently bad matte work is charming and real, but less-than-perfect CGI is a criminal offense.
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post #13 of 43
6/17/09 at 2:13pm

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Well, if they do want to do another one, they know they can't wait another 19 years

Sure, but the stubborness of Lucas isn't going away...he won't a story move forward that he doesn't approve of no matter how old they get.
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post #14 of 43
6/17/09 at 2:49pm

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Well, maybe if Lucas feels he got what he wanted with KotCS, he'd be more willing to let Spielberg to do what he wants, kinda like ToD was Lucas's and LC was Spielberg's.
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post #15 of 43
6/17/09 at 3:01pm

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Apparently bad matte work is charming and real, but less-than-perfect CGI is a criminal offense.
Hehehe. People tend to be more forgving and have rose colored glasses when looking back at movies. I could tell that dolls were used in a few shots in the mine car chase sequence in Temple Of Doom when I was a little kid but the movie is still cool. All the Indy movies have great and no so great effects shots in them.
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post #16 of 43
6/17/09 at 5:43pm

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Well, maybe if Lucas feels he got what he wanted with KotCS, he'd be more willing to let Spielberg to do what he wants, kinda like ToD was Lucas's and LC was Spielberg's.

Let's clarify, though, that what Lucas really cares about is the story...I think he cares less about the script. The KOTCS script was almost exclusively written by Koepp and Spielberg, from a story by Lucas.

That said, I doubt Lucas will just let Spielberg draft the story for Indy 5....script, sure; story, I doubt it. And I have a hard time believing they could come up with a story that they all like in such short order.
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post #17 of 43
6/17/09 at 5:51pm
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I don't think Lucas, Spielberg & Ford will be as strict with the next movie because the other one was a hit & determined the fate of anymore movies. Now they can relax & have another go. Maybe it will end up better. I just hope Indy leaves the family home this time. I don't want it to turn into the adventures of the Indy family.
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post #18 of 43
6/17/09 at 7:00pm

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Let's clarify, though, that what Lucas really cares about is the story...I think he cares less about the script. The KOTCS script was almost exclusively written by Koepp and Spielberg, from a story by Lucas.

I wonder if it'll end up with those two again hammering out the script for Indy 5. It's pretty much a given that Darabont won't be approached, especially what went down with Indy 4. I think I even read in Empire or another film magazine, that in an interview with Darabont, with what happened with Indy 4 and MI:3, he's no longer a scribe-for-hire. This was a year or so ago though. Nobody else's drafts ever panned out either, except for a portion of Nathanson's/Lucas' draft that was built upon by Koepp and SS. Did Lucas ever patch things up with Darabont?
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post #19 of 43
6/17/09 at 7:47pm

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Bad effects? The face-melting scene in Raiders looked just like wax heads that they were - but it was still fun.

I'll take an Indy 5, bring it on!
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post #20 of 43
6/17/09 at 11:53pm

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Didn't Pixar make this already? I think it is called UP. Geriatric man goes looking for adventure and finds it.

Seriously, they should give this series a rest. Without Harrison Ford it isn't an Indiana Jones film and with him it will be an unintentional parody of the character. Ford is simply too old to play the character with any of the vitality that the character once possessed.....and Shia Lebeouf replacing him?........well, that is that is a sure sign of the apocalypse.
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post #21 of 43
6/18/09 at 4:37am

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I enjoyed the last movie and look forward to another, hopefully within a year or two.
Ford will be 70 in 2012, which seems the earliest that a new movie could come out. Speilberg is working on Tintin and Lincoln, while Lucas is busy with the Red Tails movie and at least two (maybe three) Star Wars TV projects.

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Originally Posted by Albert_M
and then down the road, follow the current trend of rebooting and take us back earlier in the 20th century...

They already did this, and did it well. It's called The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles (called the Adventures of Young Indiana Jones on DVD).
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post #22 of 43
6/18/09 at 6:35am

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I just re-watched Indy 4 last night, and thoroughly enjoyed it -- sign me up for another one, I'm there.
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post #23 of 43
6/18/09 at 7:20am

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Originally Posted by Edwin-S
Didn't Pixar make this already? I think it is called UP. Geriatric man goes looking for adventure and finds it.

Seriously, they should give this series a rest. Without Harrison Ford it isn't an Indiana Jones film and with him it will be an unintentional parody of the character. Ford is simply too old to play the character with any of the vitality that the character once possessed.....and Shia Lebeouf replacing him?........well, that is that is a sure sign of the apocalypse.

But I had zero issue with Ford in KOTCS...I thought he did a pretty good job with the character. 90% of my issues were with the script, the other 10% with the direction.
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post #24 of 43
6/18/09 at 7:44am

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They already did this, and did it well. It's called The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles (called the Adventures of Young Indiana Jones on DVD).

I almost noted that a reboot that would take place after that.

In any case, I care less about that than seeing just a little more from Ford done well. I don't care about his age because a very good story can be done that makes sense for his age.

It's all in the story and execution.
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post #25 of 43
6/18/09 at 10:45am

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I actually missed Indy 4 when it was in theaters but I watched it the other day. The first three will always have my heart (although I'm not the biggest fan of Kate Capshaw's rendition of "Anything Goes" in Temple of Doom). That being said, even on a small screen, Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was really fun and definitely entertaining. I'm definitely on board for a 5th. And in the meantime...I'll entertain myself with occasionally grabbing an Indiana Jones comic book.
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post #26 of 43
6/18/09 at 11:34pm

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Originally Posted by Malcolm R
Isn't that one of the series' trademarks? The effects have always been less than perfect. Given that ILM is the driving force behind these films, I'd always assumed it was a conscious choice in line with the old-fashioned "retro" feel of the series.

Vampires are hot now. Maybe Indy should tangle with a coven of vamps.

Not at all, the effects in Raiders are dated, yes, but cartoon'ish, no way, nor were the effects in #3, but this #4 looks like Pixar was behind the effects, not ILM.
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post #27 of 43
6/19/09 at 12:29am

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I found the effects in 3 at the end (Donovan dying, temple collapsing) very cartoonish in the sense of being primitive and not realistic.
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post #28 of 43
6/19/09 at 4:04am

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Great news. I talked about this on the air yesterday using the source Ain't it Cool news. I felt they were good enough.

The only reason I wouldn't be up for another Indy is because it might delay Interstellar. That's the one I want most. I watched the low budget sci-fi 2001-ish Sunshine last night and feel Spielberg and company can do something similar on a much larger scale and without resorting to slasher tactics (like Sunshine and Event Horizon do).

But, for me, Indy 4 was a hell of a great time. Let the whiners whine! I enjoyed all the effects. They were exciting and well done. Of course I don't sit there and nitpik every pixel....a great FX heavy movie watching method I recommend. And as for the "nuking of the fridge" I laughed and I think that's why that scene was in there. Success!!!
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post #29 of 43
6/19/09 at 7:36am

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I'm not the biggest fan of Kate Capshaw's rendition of "Anything Goes" in Temple of Doom).

I enjoyed the opening sequences through them getting out of the plane. I just wished that they landed into a better story. It has its moments though.

I haven't seen the last one since seeing it in the theater and again liked some early stuff but it lost me as the movie progressed.

Has anyone watched it again who did not like it the first time and found it more enjoyable a second time? I feel like now that it's been a year I should try it again on dvd.
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post #30 of 43
6/19/09 at 8:31am

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Originally Posted by Albert_M
Has anyone watched it again who did not like it the first time and found it more enjoyable a second time? I feel like now that it's been a year I should try it again on dvd.

It varies for me...sometime I enjoy it, other times I can't stand it. I guess it depends on my mood.
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