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post #211 of 412
 I suspect that Jaref had miss-typed, and had not intended for new prints to be struck, but new Blu rays to be mastered with new menus and contents. I really doubt they'll do this. Doesn't make sense if the work is already done. But who knows, maybe the new company wants to spend more money on it to differentiate. I can see the box art modified to alter the logos and add the new company info. And it follows, they might redo menus to reflect the new company. But I should have a look at the menus now and see MGM has a log on them.

Those screen grabs do look great for On Her Majesty's. Cant wait for that!

Gear mentioned in this thread:

James Bond Blu-ray Collection Three-Pack, Vol. 3 (Moonraker/ The World is Not Enough / Goldfinger) [Blu-ray]
James Bond Blu-ray Collection Three-Pack, Vol. 1 (Dr. No / Die Another Day / Live and Let Die) [Blu-ray]
James Bond Blu-ray Collection Three-Pack, Vol.2 (For Your Eyes Only / From Russia with Love / Thunderball) [Blu-ray]
post #212 of 412


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Originally Posted by Nelson Au View Post

 I suspect that Jaref had miss-typed, and had not intended for new prints to be struck, but new Blu rays to be mastered with new menus and contents. I really doubt they'll do this. Doesn't make sense if the work is already done. But who knows, maybe the new company wants to spend more money on it to differentiate. I can see the box art modified to alter the logos and add the new company info. And it follows, they might redo menus to reflect the new company. But I should have a look at the menus now and see MGM has a log on them.

Those screen grabs do look great for On Her Majesty's. Cant wait for that!
I also have the iTunes HD versions of You Only Live Twice, The Spy Who Loved Me, and The Living Daylights. So if anyone wants me to post screen shots of these movies I will be happy too.

post #213 of 412
Nelson is right. I didn't mean new masters, I simply meant that the new releases by the new studio would simply be a new pressing, not a new master. Looks like my comments were taken out of context. :p 
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Nelson is right. I didn't mean new masters, I simply meant that the new releases by the new studio would simply be a new pressing, not a new master. Looks like my comments were taken out of context. :p 
Then I would agree with you.
post #215 of 412
Bids are due Friday for MGM.  The story on the street now is that none of the bids are high enough to satisfy the debt holders.  Warner's bid is said to be below 2 billion which is the magic low price.  Liberty Media will not make a bid.  Elliot Capital will be making a low bid or one not at all.  Lionsgate has the Carl Icahn and their debt to deal with first.  And a couple of other investment companies are going to give money for equity which is again what the debt holders do not want.  If all the bids are rejected it appears the Fox and Sony will go after the Bond franchise with all weapons drawn.  Warner's is ready to buy MGM's part of The Hobbit if it's bid is rejected.  There are also other vultures out there to gobble up the rest of the bones.

As is looks today, the end of MGM is just around the corner.  Oh and by the way MGM has spent 45 million on advertising for HOT TUB TIME MACHINE and the tracking on the film sucks.  Another Fame for sure.
post #216 of 412
The debt holders are not going to get anywhere near what they are looking for. It's like buying a car for $10,000 and hoping that you sell it for what you paid for it. That's exactly what the debt holders are hoping for. This is a problem where the debt holders are going to end up holding the bag. They aren't going to get anywhere what they're wanting to get for it. It's time they just cut their losses and accept the highest bid, so far.
post #217 of 412
Today's MGM statement on the bids it has received:

“MGM said today it has received a number of bids as part of its ongoing process of exploring strategic alternatives, which include continuing to operate as a standalone entity and evaluating a potential sale of the Company. The Company will review the bids and related transaction terms over the next several weeks. As part of its efforts to strengthen its financial position and to facilitate the Company’s strategic review process, MGM also said today it expects to work with its lenders to extend the current forbearance period on its bank debt, which ends March 31, 2010. The Company also expects to seek a forbearance agreement for its revolving line of credit, for which a payment is due April 8. MGM appreciates the strong support it has received from its lenders throughout this process.”

This afternoon Reuters reported that Lionsgate and Len Blavatnik's Access Industries made bids and that Time Warner was still considering one.  It is not known if Time Warner submitted one by the close of today.
 

post #218 of 412


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Originally Posted by ahollis View Post

This afternoon Reuters reported that Lionsgate and Len Blavatnik's Access Industries made bids and that Time Warner was still considering one.  It is not known if Time Warner submitted one by the close of today.
 


Time Warner submitted a $1.5 billion bid, which is the highest. A second round of bidding is expected later today. MGM's debt is $4 billion.
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Time Warner submitted a $1.5 billion bid, which is the highest. A second round of bidding is expected later today. MGM's debt is $4 billion.
 

The Time Warner bid is still way to low.  Looks like MGM will try the re-finance route with Access.
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The Time Warner bid is still way to low.  Looks like MGM will try the re-finance route with Access.

I'm really looking forward to the sale being finished. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Hopefully it's soon. 

Lions Gate dropped out, btw. 2 bidders left. 
post #221 of 412
MGM is apparently releasing Hang 'Em High and The Man in the Iron Mask on blu this spring. Not sure why they can't be bothered to release the remaining Bonds then.
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MGM is apparently releasing Hang 'Em High and The Man in the Iron Mask on blu this spring. Not sure why they can't be bothered to release the remaining Bonds then.
I saw that news too as well and thought it was strange as well. My guess is that MGM is probably going to make a deal with Access Industries, one of the two remaining bidders for MGM, and take them up on their offer to cut MGM's debt which would allow MGM to continue to operate. What this could mean is that we could see some more Bond Blu's possible sometime as early as this summer if this deal would provide them enough cash to do so. If MGM does decide to make a deal with Access then I would assume they would take Sony up on its offer to help fund and release the next Bond film. I think that these two new MGM Blu-ray releases are a good sign that they have a plan that will allow them to release more catalog Blu-ray's. Isn't this the first NEW Blu-ray releases from MGM since Fame was released in January? If this is the case then I would say maybe we will be seeing some new Bond Blu-rays sooner than we thought.

post #223 of 412
My guess is that since the James Bond library is receiving bids, that they may be prevented from releasing the remaining movies on Blu-ray. Not only would they require time to remaster the movies for Blu-ray but would require significant lead-in time to release them on Blu-ray.

Since all media require two months, at least, in order for retailers to place their orders for various titles, and with the bidding war being conducted on the James Bond library, it wouldn't be enough to release the movies. More than likely a bid will be accepted before the end of April.
post #224 of 412
But surely that would apply to all titles in the MGM/UA library, not just the Bond films.
post #225 of 412
Lionsgate withdrew their bid.  It was for only 1.3 billion, but now they have their on fight for survival at hand.  I am kind of going with Access also unless the debt holders just want to end it all take Warner's bid.

One thing that interests me is that Fox did offer debt assistance and some cash.  Since the addition of MGM MOD titles in Amazon announced by MGM/Fox, they maybe going to take Fox's offer and stay independent.  Fox may also share in the production of the the Bond films. 
post #226 of 412
Not really. Because everyone is bidding on the Bond library not on the other properties. 
post #227 of 412


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Originally Posted by media-junkie View Post

My guess is that since the James Bond library is receiving bids, that they may be prevented from releasing the remaining movies on Blu-ray. Not only would they require time to remaster the movies for Blu-ray but would require significant lead-in time to release them on Blu-ray.

Since all media require two months, at least, in order for retailers to place their orders for various titles, and with the bidding war being conducted on the James Bond library, it wouldn't be enough to release the movies. More than likely a bid will be accepted before the end of April.
First off I don't believe the remaining Bond films need to be remastered at all since I have an iTunes HD versions of On Her Majesty's Secret Service, The Spy Who Loved Me, The Living Daylights, and You Only Live Twice which have new masters compared to their UE DVD counterparts which to me means that the none of the remaining titles need to be remastered. Secondly, the bidding war is NOT JUST for the James Bond films but for the entire company that is MGM which includes its film library. Another thing is that the only two bidders left Time-Warner and Access Industries have bids at 1.5 Billion and lower which the creditors wanted more like 2 billion so I doubt MGM is going to accept either bid for the company. This would mean they would take the restructuring route and Access Industries has offered to cut MGM's debt and 20th Century Fox has offered cash to keep things going so I believe this is the route they are going to take. This would give them more cash flowing to MGM which could allow them to release more Blu-ray's and since I believe that the Bond's would more than likely just need to be pressed, unless I am mistaken, I think its a possibility that they could get released as early as this summer (July-August).
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Not really. Because everyone is bidding on the Bond library not on the other properties. 
Like I mentioned above the James Bond Library is apart of the MGM/UA library and the bids are not just for the James Bond series but the whole library that would include Hang Em High and The Man in the Iron Mask. 
post #228 of 412


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I saw that news too as well and thought it was strange as well. My guess is that MGM is probably going to make a deal with Access Industries, one of the two remaining bidders for MGM, and take them up on their offer to cut MGM's debt which would allow MGM to continue to operate. What this could mean is that we could see some more Bond Blu's possible sometime as early as this summer if this deal would provide them enough cash to do so. If MGM does decide to make a deal with Access then I would assume they would take Sony up on its offer to help fund and release the next Bond film. I think that these two new MGM Blu-ray releases are a good sign that they have a plan that will allow them to release more catalog Blu-ray's. Isn't this the first NEW Blu-ray releases from MGM since Fame was released in January? If this is the case then I would say maybe we will be seeing some new Bond Blu-rays sooner than we thought.
 

I also thought the 2 new MGM title announcements were very odd. Of course it couldn't be something that I would actually buy like the Sergio Leone films or 2 more of the Bond films. Ugh. 

Hopefully this will all be resolved soon. It's really gotten old / painful to watch unfold. Hopefully we know more in April about the bidding or what MGM and the creditors decide to do.. 

It's been over a year since the last couple of Bond films were released on blu ray. I'm guessing until the MGM matter is resolved we won't see very many good titles released. I did think these 2 titles were pretty odd choices. 
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I also thought the 2 new MGM title announcements were very odd. Of course it couldn't be something that I would actually buy like the Sergio Leone films or 2 more of the Bond films. Ugh. 

Hopefully this will all be resolved soon. It's really gotten old / painful to watch unfold. Hopefully we know more in April about the bidding or what MGM and the creditors decide to do.. 

It's been over a year since the last couple of Bond films were released on blu ray. I'm guessing until the MGM matter is resolved we won't see very many good titles released. I did think these 2 titles were pretty odd choices. 
 
It has gotten old and is very painfull.  The news is that they are planing on turning all bids down and filing bankrupty and reorgainze.  If so, the pain will go on for a lot longer.

post #230 of 412
And now it looks as though they'll be releasing The Magnificent Seven films on blu as well.
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Like I mentioned above the James Bond Library is apart of the MGM/UA library and the bids are not just for the James Bond series but the whole library that would include Hang Em High and The Man in the Iron Mask. 

The Broccoli family may have as much to say about how and when the Bond films get released as MGM. Perhaps even more to say about it. There is much speculation that the Broccoli's bought out United Artists interests in the Bond films around the time of the Heaven's Gate disaster which almost brought the studio down in the mid 80's. This would mean that the Broccoli's would own the Bond films, (with the exception of Casino Royale) outright. 

The rumor is that the Broccoli family was worried that Bond films would get tied up in the legal mess of a studio breakup and bought back the shares of the films that Harry Saltzman's sold to UA.


Doug
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The Broccoli family may have as much to say about how and when the Bond films get released as MGM. Perhaps even more to say about it. There is much speculation that the Broccoli's bought out United Artists interests in the Bond films around the time of the Heaven's Gate disaster which almost brought the studio down in the mid 80's. This would mean that the Broccoli's would own the Bond films, (with the exception of Casino Royale) outright. 

The rumor is that the Broccoli family was worried that Bond films would get tied up in the legal mess of a studio breakup and bought back the shares of the films that Harry Saltzman's sold to UA.


Doug
I realize this but I still believe that United Artists and now MGM own distribution rights to the Bond films and I do believe the Broccoli family do have a say in the content of DVD's and now Blu-ray's but I don't believe they have a say of when they get released since MGM is the one that is paying to produce these DVD's and Blu-rays while I don't believe EON pays any money for these discs to be produced. If EON did have all of the rights to the series, even distribution rights, then I don't think they would be forced to halt production on the next Bond film since they could easily switch to another studio if they did own the distribution rights as well but I do think there is a possibility the distribution rights would revert back to EON if MGM were to file for bankruptcy. I believe since MGM puts up the cash for these Home Entertainment releases and makes money off them as well, I assume EON makes money off them as well but I don't believe they put up cash for them to be produced, I believe they have control over when the Blu-ray's get released.
post #233 of 412
I want a View To A Kill on blu-ray!
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I want a View To A Kill on blu-ray!

+1

I will buy all of the remaining titles as soon as MGM can get them out. 

Best Buy has the films on sale again this week for $12.99.

I found it very interesting that MGM is releasing The Thomas Crown Affair blu ray tomorrow. I also find it odd that MGM has announced 3 more blu ray titles coming in May. The Magnificent Seven, Hang Em High and The Man In The Iron Mask. Just curious why MGM or Fox were given the go ahead to release these given MGM's dire situation at this point? If it's a matter that the work for blu ray release was already under way, then why not the remaining James Bond films? We know that Lowry has completed the work on all of the Bond films. We also have seen some of the unreleased Bond blu ray films on cable, etc.
post #235 of 412
Did The Thomas Crown Affair get bumped up a week early? I thought the blu ray was due out on April 6th.

A week ago, I wanted to watch Goldfinger. The blu ray really looks great! I can't wait to see the rest.
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Did The Thomas Crown Affair get bumped up a week early? I thought the blu ray was due out on April 6th.

A week ago, I wanted to watch Goldfinger. The blu ray really looks great! I can't wait to see the rest.

You are correct. 4/6, not 3/30. 

Even more MGM blu ray news today. The Sergio Leone Eastwood films are coming to blu ray in Region 2 UK on June 7. 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0039WHKHM?tag=thedigitalbit-20&link_code=as2&creativeASIN=B0039WHKHM&creative=374929&camp=211189

No news on a US release. 

Could the delay of the other Bond films on blu ray be tied to deals with cable and other online services? 
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Could the delay of the other Bond films on blu ray be tied to deals with cable and other online services? 

I would think the primary factors for the delay in either further Bond films on Blu are:

1. The previously released films sold under expectations.
2. The possible cross-promotion opportunity when the new film comes out 2011-2012.

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I would think the primary factors for the delay in either further Bond films on Blu are:

1. The previously released films sold under expectations.
2. The possible cross-promotion opportunity when the new film comes out 2011-2012.

 

Not sure what the expectations were, but all the Bond Blu-ray singles have been on sale at Best Buy for $12.99 for a sometime.  This does not sound good for the sales.
post #239 of 412
Some news on Bond 23:

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MGM cash flow issues or not, work must be continuing on the next James Bond film, formally or informally. For months now we’ve known that Peter Morgan has been working on the script, so at the very least there’s likely to be a partial draft and an outline in place. More than enough to start casting some major roles - at least, that’s how the studios too often seem to behave. Were the MGM woes not ongoing I bet we’d have a release date by now, even.


After some tabloid film-flam about supposed ‘Bond Girls’ last week, our first credible rumor for a big name on the cast has arrived. This story has it that Rachel Weisz might be taking on an arch-villain role as the behind-the-scenes, secret mistress of the nefarious Quantum organisation. This is not only interesting because it sees an actual actress in the running for such a role, but also because it subverts the normal gender hierarchy of a Bond plotline somewhat. Having M be played Judi Dench was a start, and this would be a doozy of a follow-up.

 

The story comes from Cinema Blend who bend over backwards to contextualise this as a rumor, but a rumor from a credible source.

Sam Mendes is, reportedly, attached to direct this next Bond film. This complicates this story somewhat, I feel, because he and Rachel Weisz have a romantic history together. Would he really be casting her in this role, right now? That’s not really the flavour of speculation I want to indulge in for too long, but it was an alarm bell and I thought I should share it.


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Not sure what the expectations were, but all the Bond Blu-ray singles have been on sale at Best Buy for $12.99 for a sometime.  This does not sound good for the sales.

I saw this as well. They are a steal at that price. 

As far as sales numbers, I'm not sure what else I can do at this point. I've picked up all of the Bond films that have been issued on blu ray. 

I've read a bit that the older catalog titles haven't done as well on blu ray though. Not Bond specifically, but some other titles. 

Hopefully if MGM is still releasing titles on blu ray, they will come up with a plan to get the other Bond films out. Even if they would release a complete box set now and then the other titles when Bond 23 comes to theaters. I'd probably rebuy what I have. : ) I just picked up the single versions of each. I didn't care for the 3 film box sets they did. 

As far as pricing. I picked up the first 6 Bond films on blu ray for $35 total from Amazon. They ran a crazy sale around Thanksgiving 2008. I picked up the other titles when they were on sale or discounted as well. 

I still think MGM has re issued the films a few too many times and in so many different sets, etc. 

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