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Looky here: 'Crouching Tiger', possible caveat...

post #1 of 34
5/5/09 at 1:14pm
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High-Def Digest is proclaiming a July 14 release date for 'Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon', but...possibly available only as part of a 3-title set.

No confirmation yet about stand-alone status, but I must admit wanting the other two titles as well. Check it out.

Sony Bundles Up 'Crouching Tiger' in Blu-ray Box Set | High-Def Digest
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post #2 of 34
5/5/09 at 1:33pm

Re: Looky here: 'Crouching Tiger', possible caveat...

Pretty odd that it would only be part of a 3-film set that includes 2 others that have already been released long ago. Most folks who'd want either of the other 2 would already own it by now, especially since they've both been seriously discounted (or available in various BOGOs or B2G1s) in the past. Maybe it's just an oversight that they haven't also announced a standalone release for it yet.

Anyway, can't wait to get CTHD on Blu though I wonder about the PQ since it was originally slated for 2006 release, no? Is it gonna be yet another old, substandard MPEG2 encode? Hope not.

_Man_
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post #3 of 34
5/5/09 at 2:33pm

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If it were to be released only in a box set, I would have to pass. Unless Sony were to package in a new version of House of Flying Daggers.
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post #4 of 34
5/6/09 at 7:27am

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While I love Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, I am not springing for a three-film box set in order to get it. This needs an individual release, and hopefully it will receive on soon.
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post #5 of 34
5/6/09 at 9:39am

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Originally Posted by Paul Arnette
While I love Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, I am not springing for a three-film box set in order to get it. This needs an individual release, and hopefully it will receive on soon.
Especially if you already own those other two titles on BRD.
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post #6 of 34
5/6/09 at 3:24pm

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Originally Posted by Robert Crawford
Especially if you already own those other two titles on BRD.

Hehheh... Well, I basically regret blind buying Curse... even at the bargain bin price I paid, IIRC. I mean the image on that one is truly eye-popping, especially for the gaudy interiors, but otherwise, it's just glorified soap opera of the highest order. Flying Daggers is also just ok, IMHO, and probably not worth owning, if not for the bargain bin price I paid.

Even CTHD is not exactly w/out its flaws, but it's definitely by far the best of the three, and I'd love to have it (in excellent BD quality of course).

_Man_
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post #7 of 34
5/7/09 at 12:39pm

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The current 'House of Flying Daggers' release is pretty bad, so I have held off despite really liking that movie. Hopefully they are giving that one a much needed "Fifth Element (remastered)" treatment.

I already own "Curse of the Golden Flower", but give me well (re)mastered "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" and "House of Flying Daggers" stand alone release, and I will be sold!
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post #8 of 34
5/7/09 at 1:10pm

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I can wait until they sell it separately. It's bound to happen eventually.
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post #9 of 34
5/7/09 at 1:16pm
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Originally Posted by AaronMK
The current 'House of Flying Daggers' release is pretty bad, so I have held off despite really liking that movie. Hopefully they are giving that one a much needed "Fifth Element (remastered)" treatment.

I already own "Curse of the Golden Flower", but give me well (re)mastered "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" and "House of Flying Daggers" stand alone release, and I will be sold!

Same here, I don't own the two existing titles. Putting together a set like this, surely Sony would remaster HFD. After all, it was one of the early release ugly ducklings that have been harshly criticized from day one. If not, then it's certainly a no-go for me.

I think Sony will end up releasing CTHD as a stand-alone from the start, anyway.
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post #10 of 34
5/7/09 at 6:10pm

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Originally Posted by David Wilkins
Putting together a set like this, surely Sony would remaster HFD.

Surely? Don't get your hopes up. This set seems designed to move some excess CotGF and HoFD and nothing more.
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post #11 of 34
5/7/09 at 8:14pm
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Originally Posted by Paul Arnette
Surely? Don't get your hopes up. This set seems designed to move some excess CotGF and HoFD and nothing more.

It's wishful thinking, I suppose, as is the concurrent stand-alone release of CTHD. We should have an actual press release before too long.

It's hard to figure where Sony's mind is at, so far as this release. Seems to me, that if they haven't improved HFD, it cheapens the entire package. I can't imagine that there's a huge mass of humanity clamoring for CTHD, to the extent of buying all three.
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post #12 of 34
5/7/09 at 9:30pm

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Not only does House Of Flying Daggers needs to be remastered, but it also needs to be released uncut. The US release had several cuts to obtain a PG-13 rating.
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post #13 of 34
5/7/09 at 9:39pm

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HoFD blu ray really disappointed me, hopefully CTHD won't.
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post #14 of 34
5/7/09 at 9:47pm

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It's hard to figure where Sony's mind is at, so far as this release. Seems to me, that if they haven't improved HFD, it cheapens the entire package. I can't imagine that there's a huge mass of humanity clamoring for CTHD, to the extent of buying all three.

This kind of tactic obviously works, or we would not repeatedly see it happen. I'd imagine there are a lot of people who want Star Trek VI, but not I and V. It is not like Paramount is going do the release the series without I and V, so using VI as a carrot to move them makes sense. Same for the Batman Anthology, The Fast and the Furious, and The Matrix movies. At least Warner seems to have the good will to eventually release the carrot in their sets as a standalone.

I think we will see CTHD as a stand alone release someday, but I bet there are enough people who want it badly enough to help Sony shed that excess CotGF and HoFD stock for the time being.

I really want CTHD, but if that is the game they are going to play, I think I'll sit on the sidelines. If they throw in a QUALITY release of HoFD and price the set as if it were just those two movies, I might bite and hopefully be able to sell that second CotGF copy I already own.
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post #15 of 34
5/7/09 at 10:09pm

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Originally Posted by AaronMK
This kind of tactic obviously works, or we would not repeatedly see it happen. I'd imagine there are a lot of people who want Star Trek VI, but not I and V. It is not like Paramount is going do the release the series without I and V, so using VI as a carrot to move them makes sense.
But using 2+3 as a carrot for 1, and 4+6 as a carrot for 5, would have made even more sense; instead, we got a very sensible trilogy box set. I'm confused.
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post #16 of 34
5/7/09 at 10:36pm

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But using 2+3 as a carrot for 1, and 4+6 as a carrot for 5, would have made even more sense; instead, we got a very sensible trilogy box set. I'm confused.

LOL

I am glad you're not in Paramount's marketing department!!
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post #17 of 34
5/8/09 at 5:55pm

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love Crouching Tiger but I don't need those other movies so I won't be buying.

off topic how does one pronounce the word "caveat"?
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post #18 of 34
5/8/09 at 7:32pm

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Originally Posted by TonyD
off topic how does one pronounce the word "caveat"?

caveat: definition and audio pronunciation from GREdic.com, the free GRE word list & dictionary
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post #19 of 34
5/8/09 at 8:49pm

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Now, if the bundle included 'Hero' rather than 'Curse,' I'd have no qualms at all about picking it up. Triple the Ziyi. But I like HOFD well enough, so I'll probably get it anyhow. I simply must have CTHD.

--Jefferson Morris
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post #20 of 34
5/9/09 at 11:42am

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Sigh....Bundle a movie, new to BD with two previous releases......class move Sony. I'm sure the local HTF studio apologists will think of this as a "fantastic" business move.

That said I don't own either and I'd buy the bundle if Flying Daggers was remastered........since I doubt that I'll wait for Crouching Tiger to come out solo.
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post #21 of 34
5/9/09 at 12:16pm

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I agree, Jim...makes no sense. Sony is also doing similar with Wolf/Dracula/Frankenstein. This new strategy sucks!
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post #22 of 34
5/12/09 at 12:33pm

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This really ticks me off. I own both of the other moives and Crouchign Tiger is a big favorite of mine. It also doesn't make any sense from a marketing perspective - Crouching Tiger had a full-on US release, whereas the other two had a very limited art-house release and are unlikely to have mass appeal. Sony seems to be the only company that is making these kind of stupid, arrogant moves of repackaging already released movies with unreleased ones. They did the same thing with the Harryhausen set. It's a real thumb in the eye, especially given the type of audience that this stuff is going to appeal to.
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post #23 of 34
5/13/09 at 6:30am

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Good news, everyone! Not only will the UK version of CTHD be an individual release, but it comes out a week earlier, on July 6, and it's playable in all regions! It's already up at Amazon UK for the equivalent of a little over $21.

Now, this might mean that Sony is contemplating releasing it individually here as well, but if they do you could always cancel the Amazon UK order.
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post #24 of 34
5/13/09 at 3:35pm

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Originally Posted by Jesse Blacklow
Good news, everyone! Not only will the UK version of CTHD be an individual release, but it comes out a week earlier, on July 6, and it's playable in all regions! It's already up at Amazon UK for the equivalent of a little over $21.

Now, this might mean that Sony is contemplating releasing it individually here as well, but if they do you could always cancel the Amazon UK order.

Thanks, Jesse. Preordered.
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post #25 of 34
5/28/09 at 1:27pm

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transfers of HOFD and COTGF remain unchanged
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Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon "Trilogy" Gets Detailed
Posted May 28, 2009 08:27 AM by Juan Calonge

Sony Pictures Home Entertainment has detailed the technical specs and special features for the three-movie pack ' Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon / Curse of the Golden Flower / House of Flying Daggers Trilogy', which will be released on Blu-ray on July 14. Details for the two latter titles are identical to their previous separate releases.

'Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon' will have 5.1 Dolby TrueHD tracks in Chinese, English and French, with English and French subtitles. Extras include an audio commentary with Ang Lee and James Schamus, a featurette on a conversation with Michelle Yeoh, a making-of documentary titled "Unleashing the Dragons", and a photo gallery.

'Curse of the Golden Flower' contains a 5.1 PCM Chinese track, and Dolby Digital Chinese and English tracks, with subtitles in English and French. Extras include the making-of featurette "Secrets Within", and a featurette on the Los Angeles premiere.

'House of Flying Daggers' contains a 5.1 PCM Chinese track, and Dolby Digital Chinese, English, French and Spanish tracks, with subtitles in English, French and Spanish. Extras include a featurette titled "Creating the Visual Effects" and storyboard comparisons.

Note that 'Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon' has not been announced separately for Blu-ray release in the US. However, an individual release has been announced for the UK (see here) with a release date of July 6.
Blu-ray.com - Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon "Trilogy" Gets Detailed
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post #26 of 34
5/28/09 at 2:18pm

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Meh. I already own Golden Flower. So am I supposed to buy it again and sell it on Half.com? In the end that might be cheaper than paying for shipping from the UK.
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post #27 of 34
5/28/09 at 2:36pm
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Re: Looky here: 'Crouching Tiger', possible caveat...

If it holds true that there'll be no single release, and the other two are the original product, especially HoFD, all I can say is: Sony has balls. It's hard to believe that any degree of serious thought went into this packaging. It's fairly close to a rigid middle finger pointed at their customers.

Haven't BD customers done a lot of buying to make the format an early success, especially in times like these?
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post #28 of 34
5/29/09 at 6:42am

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UK is getting an individual release of CTHD so I'll get it there.
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post #29 of 34
5/29/09 at 8:51am

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Originally Posted by MatS
Funniest (scariest?) part of that thread is the guy who is convinced he will walk of Best Buy with only CTHD in hand.

Seriously, this is a disappointment, so I will investigate importing. For those who are eyeing the UK release, this is a naive question since I don't import: will there be PAL/NTSC issues? Or are those a thing of the past with Blu-ray and 1080p/24? I'll be using a PS3.

Thanks!
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post #30 of 34
5/29/09 at 8:58am

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Originally Posted by Carlo Medina
For those who are eyeing the UK release, this is a naive question since I don't import: will there be PAL/NTSC issues? Or are those a thing of the past with Blu-ray and 1080p/24? I'll be using a PS3.
Most UK releases of films are 1080p/24, though some films (from smaller video companies) and some TV releases (those not slowed down to 1080p/24 or standards-converted to 1080i/60 to allow one world-wide master) are in 1080i/50.
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