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How well is Hotel: The First Season selling? I hope the second season does come out. If it does I'm guessing it will likely come out before spring next year.
Joe, look at the Brits, they had 'Allo 'Allo and other shows making fun of the Nazis, it's almost a tradition there. And the thing is they're making fun of them not laughing with them, like the exploits of serial killers and gangsters. My two cents on this anyway, it's a thin line alright.
Allo Allo came out how many years after Hogan's Heroes? Nearly 15 years. And Hogan wasn't always using the Mazis as objects of complete ridicule. You didn't laugh with Sgt. Shultz when he said, "I see nothing!" Or Col. Klink fearful of getting shipped to the Eastern front? sure there was no laughter with Joseph Ruskin. But there was when Klink kept thinking he could pull one over on Gen Bulkarter (SP). Schultz and Klink are sympathetic characters.
Have you seen either Dexter or the Sopranos or are you basing your opinion on your expectations of each series?
Far as Hotel sales - the recent amazon sales numbers:
The Lucy Show is #319
Love Boat #882
Hotel is #2,651
I've seen enough to know it's not my taste, think it's overrated much of it (like we have to like it just 'cuz it's new drama, yeah right), but you didn't comment on the glorification bit...
I've seen enough to know it's not my taste, think it's overrated much of it (like we have to like it just 'cuz it's new drama, yeah right), but you didn't comment on the glorification bit...
which series are you talking about? both series remind us that charming and funny people can also kill you. If you can't see the comedy of when when Dexter had to kill his therapist (who was a serial killer) even though he was making progress with the guy; it probably isn't for you.
This is always an interesting place. Half the people think there hasn't been an entertaining show since color TV started and the other half think anything more than three years old is "vintage" TV. I'm over 50 years old but I can enjoy Donna Reed and NCIS on the same night.
This is always an interesting place. Half the people think there hasn't been an entertaining show since color TV started and the other half think anything more than three years old is "vintage" TV. I'm over 50 years old but I can enjoy Donna Reed and NCIS on the same night.
I don't blame you for making that observation but imo, there's more exceptions to the rule here than it may appear at times.
I'm also over 50 and although the vast majority of my TV/DVD collection are pre-80's shows, I have several 80's and a few 90's and even 1 post-'00 set in the collection.
There's not been too much network shows after '96 that have looked good to me but I may check out a couple later since a lot of those have been released on DVD.
I don't blame you for making that observation but imo, there's more exceptions to the rule here than it may appear at times.
I'm also over 50 and although the vast majority of my TV/DVD collection are pre-80's shows, I have several 80's and a few 90's and even 1 post-'00 set in the collection.
There's not been too much network shows after '96 that have looked good to me but I may check out a couple later since a lot of those have been released on DVD.
Jeff, I don't think there is anything wrong with someone using there free time and money any way they see fit, and certainly nobody should ever watch a TV program they don't enjoy. The thing that has caught my eye around here is the sharp cut-off so many people seem to have in regards to the various eras. Because of my age I tend to gravitate towards older TV shows and that seems natural to me, but having said that there have been many shows produced in the last twenty years that I enjoy a lot. Several of my all time favorites come from a more recent era
and it just seems strange I guess when people dismiss entire decades of TV as garbage.
One genre that I do think has went down hill badly is the sitcom. It has been a long time since I have seen one of those that I would consider a classic.
Maybe the fans bought the first season set in the week, with non-fans purchasing it afterwards. Maybe Shout! Factory could look at releasing the second season if Universal sub-license Hotel out?
Maybe the fans bought the first season set in the week, with non-fans purchasing it afterwards. Maybe Shout! Factory could look at releasing the second season if Universal sub-license Hotel out?
Are you sure that it's Universal that owns "Hotel"? I thought that it was Paramount/CBS that owned it ("Hotel" being an Aaron Spelling series).
Oh, and by the way, I pre-ordered my copy of it. I finished it just recently, and I really did enjoy it.
If Paramount didn't have faith in it, which they seem to have, why did they do a complete season and not their unpopular split ones. Food for thought. I watched the pilot today, the sound is a little muddled and could've done with subtitles, but otherwise a fun watch. The normal episodes are much better though, so this way-too sappy Love Boat-like pilot isn't really an all too true indicator of what's to come. Anyway, it's a much better show than the terrible Dynasty, but many shows are of course.
I watched the Pilot and the first episode and enjoyed them. I didn't watch the show regularly back in the day, but I am going to charge on through this first season and see what I think.
I wrapped up my viewing of Hotel tonight with Disc 6. I tried to take my time viewing it over the last few weeks. Did anyone notice Michael Dorn working one of the desks in a couple episodes ? It is true that you really look forward to who is guest starring, as the opening credits go to reveal that. A very enjoyable romp & I can only hope we see more seasons released.
i was going to buy Hotel, but, decided at the last moment to cancel my order. I have concerns with the network releasing 1st season then nothing. I have decided to focus on completing some of the series that are already released, like Goodtimes, Sanford & Son, Crime Story, Brady Bunch, Cheers, Star Trek Enterprise and a few others.
This is exactly why I pre-ordered-- to try to help boost the sales.
Exactly. The more people who buy Hotel: The First Season, the better chance that we will see the second season and the remaining three seasons after that.
Were episodes of Hotel preceded by 30 second teasers?
Exactly. The more people who buy Hotel: The First Season, the better chance that we will see the second season and the remaining three seasons after that.
Were episodes of Hotel preceded by 30 second teasers?
Not as I know of. All I know is that when I selected an outing, the opening titles started then and there.
Not buying it because you're afraid the rest won't come out, why, that's a bit silly. That means we should never buy anything that's being released, now it's finally coming and then you don't want to buy it, that makes no sense to me. If nothing more comes out you can always sell it.
The way I see it, what matters to me is that I got to see some of a series that I did not get into when it was on ABC back when I was a boy. Sure, I would have liked for the release to have some bonuses on it, but bonuses aside, when you have the opportunity to see a series that you didn't see that much of when it was originally on, I think it would be somewhat silly to pass it up.
If you go by the 'six month between releases' rule, then CBS DVD should releasing the second season of Hotel in January 2010, being as the first season was released in July this year. I'm hoping sales were good enough for CBS DVD.
How many episodes are actually in Hotel's second season (which ran during the 1984-85 season)? On EpGuides.com it says there are 28 episodes, starting in September 1984 and going up to August 1985, which goes well past the end of the US TV season (May sweeps). Is this why the second season set hasn't been announced yet?
How many episodes are actually in Hotel's second season (which ran during the 1984-85 season)? On EpGuides.com it says there are 28 episodes, starting in September 1984 and going up to August 1985, which goes well past the end of the US TV season (May sweeps). Is this why the second season set hasn't been announced yet?
On their episode listing page, they seem to have some doubt about the airdates of those episodes. My memory is faulty, but I do not recall Hotel being shown first-run all that summer; maybe they screwed up. But 28 episodes is a lot for one season...I don't know if that's accurate either.
But the show seems to have 116 episodes; they should have forgotten about the season-by-season release schedule and did a Complete Series boxed set instead. Should have retailed for about $150 which means it would have been permanently on sale from amazon for about $99. That would have been nice, because Hotel is one of those shows I'm leery about seeing to completion on dvd...with other, more popular shows not selling well, it seems like Hotel doesn't have much of a chance of making it all the way to season five. BUT--who knows. I'll buy it anyway.
HenryDuBrow - I'm unable to quote your post from the Stalled TV Releases on DVD thread. In reply...
The first season of Hotel was released by CBS DVD in June or July last year, so even though a second season release on Region 1 is overdue, in a way they could be doing what they did with the second season of Early Edition - releasing it 12 months after the first season release. But the problem they may have (and this is based on the Hotel episode guide on EpGuides.com and the discussion in latter posts in this thread) is how many episodes were in the second season of Hotel? EpGuides.com says there were the following in each season...
Season 1 (1983-84) - feature length pilot + 22 episodes
Season 2 (1984-85) - 28 episodes
Season 3 (1985-86) - 25 episodes
Season 4 (1986-87) - 22 episodes
Season 5 (1987-88) - 17 episodes.
It's not totally impossible that there were 28 episodes in Hotel's second season, because Dallas, Knots Landing, Dynasty and Falcon Crest each had 28 episodes or more in one or more seasons during their runs. But they were soap operas/dramas, which usually get more than 22 episodes per season. With the exception of one or two series on US prime-time TV today most series have up to 22 episodes per season. So it is confusing what the true total number of second season episodes for Hotel is. They can't be from other seasons because the production number goes with the second season episodes which premiered between September 1984 and May 1985.
Seems to me that the 22 episode rule didn't come into play until recently. Series used to have a lot more episodes per season until networks got greedy.
Back in the 1950s it wasn't uncommon to have over 35 Episodes a Season!
Here's some examples
Lassie Season Two (1955-1956) 37 Episodes
Robin Hood (Entre Series) The first three seasons had 39 episodes, Season Four had 35.
The Buccaneers Only lasted one season, but it consisted of 39 Episodes.
Today in some instances you are lucky if you get 20 Episodes per Season!
Isn't it the truth! Plus, the episode time lengths have eroded over the years...."Perry Mason", about 52 min/episode back in '57.....now, what are they running? 40-42 min/episode?