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I actually found the plastic sleeve preferable to shrink wrap as it can be kept and used, unlike shrink wrap.

I don't actually mind the plastic sleeves, I just wish the flap wasn't sticky. I feel like they'll eventually end up tearing if you accidently use too much force trying to open them, or overtime, the sticky substance will get all dirty.
post #302 of 538
I only ordered the mono box.  I'm fairly happy with most of the stereo 1987 discs, and not very interested in stereo versions of the first four records.  I got mine from Amazon and it was in perfect condition.  I copied the CDs and will play the copies.  

Right now I'm listening to the original stereo mix of Help! which is fairly terrible, though the original stereo mix of Rubber Soul was downright painful to listen to.  Drums in one ear and bass in the other doesn't serve the rhythm section very well.  I'm listening to these two bad stereo mixes just for completeness.  I am trying to hold off on the stereo CDs since it is rumored that a vinyl release is coming next year.
post #303 of 538
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  I am trying to hold off on the stereo CDs since it is rumored that a vinyl release is coming next year.

 One can only hope for mono and stereo on heavy vinyl. Wouldn't be surprised if these were sold only by the box, as the potential market is even smaller than that for the Mono cd box and I don't see Best Buy, Target, etc. setting up a section for them.
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 One can only hope for mono and stereo on heavy vinyl. Wouldn't be surprised if these were sold only by the box, as the potential market is even smaller than that for the Mono cd box and I don't see Best Buy, Target, etc. setting up a section for them.
 

My Best Buy (Racine, WI) set up a vinyl section earlier this year...
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My Mono box should arrive today, I can't wait!  I already picked up singles of "Let It Be", "Yellow Submarine" and "Abby Road" since they were not included in the Mono set.  I like have the Beatles mixes of the albums instead of forced stereo etc, so I think I'm set!  One question though, can someone confirm that the PAST MASTERS set you can buy as a single (outside a boxset) release has a different running order/different songs from the one included in the Mono Box?  I want it all man!  :P

I have Beatles Rockband on order too, should see it early next week.  Add that to a trip this past summer to Liverpool with a walk through the Beatles Museum, and I've gorged on the fab four!  Oddly enough, I always preferred THE WHO as far as Brit Invasion bands go. :P


Best part of the Beatles Experiance... LIl' Beatles!


Beatles sculpture on top of the official Beatles Store on Mathews Street.
post #306 of 538
West Los Angeles has a nice vinyl section too. Coincidentally they are one of the select Best Buys who also sell musical instruments (i.e. Guitar Center style, not just keyboards and beginning no-name guitars).

I wonder if there's a correlation between BBs that sell vinyl and instruments...

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My Best Buy (Racine, WI) set up a vinyl section earlier this year...
post #307 of 538
Yeah, Mono Masters includes the four Yellow Submarine songs in mono. Past Masters doesn't.
Past Masters gives us the single version of Let It Be, along with Ballad of John and Yoko and Old Brown Shoe, which weren't included on mono masters because these songs were only mixed in stereo.

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My Mono box should arrive today, I can't wait!  I already picked up singles of "Let It Be", "Yellow Submarine" and "Abby Road" since they were not included in the Mono set.  I like have the Beatles mixes of the albums instead of forced stereo etc, so I think I'm set!  One question though, can someone confirm that the PAST MASTERS set you can buy as a single (outside a boxset) release has a different running order/different songs from the one included in the Mono Box?  I want it all m
n!  :P
post #308 of 538
  Yours is far more progressive. :) Mine has a few new releases scattered about the top of the cd racks.

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My Best Buy (Racine, WI) set up a vinyl section earlier this year...
post #309 of 538
My mono box showed up today from Barnes & Noble...a little long for the shipping, but considering the price I'll take it.

The mono Sgt. Pepper's is interesting.  The packaging is great.  As for the rest, the jury is out--I'm glad I got the stereo set, because I am tending to enjoy the stereo versions better.

- Steve
post #310 of 538
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My mono box arrived this morning.  I'd been tracking it carefully.  I hope it's in excellent shape. :)

The stereo box will probably arrive in about three days.
post #311 of 538
Mine arrived from B&N yesterday as well... in perfect condition (whew!)

Haven't had a chance to dip into it yet, but I love the packaging. 

Now that the reissues have been out a week, has anyone heard about any mistakes made in the remastering?  A friend mentioned that he heard that some were complaining about too much reverb.
post #312 of 538
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Mine arrived from B&N yesterday as well... in perfect condition (whew!)

Haven't had a chance to dip into it yet, but I love the packaging. 

Now that the reissues have been out a week, has anyone heard about any mistakes made in the remastering?  A friend mentioned that he heard that some were complaining about too much reverb.

I had heard, similar to The Fugitive, that 90% of the music was replaced by artists covering the Beatles music.

;)

BTW, I ended up purchasing both of my sets through Barnes & Noble as well.  I'd not used them before.

Reverberation could be a problem.  I will listen specifically for that when I crack open my set tonight.
post #313 of 538
I have to say - after a couple listens, I think I prefer the mono version of "The Beatles" (White album) to the stereo one.  So much of that album in stereo has the drums in one channel and the bass in the other.  It makes the solid rhythm section of Starr/McCartney sound disjointed.  In mono the music seems so much better balanced.  But I miss the fade-in "Blisters!" line.
post #314 of 538
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In mono the music seems so much better balanced.

Well said.  It's the primary reason I prefer mono over stereo for many types of music (much of it predating the Beatles).

I will be ripping all of the Beatles CDs from both collections to my computer this weekend.  Having read what some have written in this thread, it sounds wise to make backup CD copies as well. 
post #315 of 538
  Try removing the discs from the stereo White Album and tell me if I'm nuts. :)
post #316 of 538
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  Try removing the discs from the stereo White Album and tell me if I'm nuts. :)



 

Jack,

Are you saying it's difficult?  You're not the first to mention this.  Hmmm.
post #317 of 538
The copy of the stereo White Album I bought @ Target had a scuff on it from the factory. Not happy. Will have to do an exchange.
post #318 of 538
 Could be me, but I have to reach in and grab the disc to get it out, in there pretty tight and no room to grab the edges.

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Jack,

Are you saying it's difficult?  You're not the first to mention this.  Hmmm.
post #319 of 538
It was posted a page or so ago, but thanks to whomever gave the link to www.albumartexchange.com !!!  I found art to put on my iPod for quite a few imports/vinyl/not yet available for DL titles!
post #320 of 538
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It was posted a page or so ago, but thanks to whomever gave the link to www.albumartexchange.com !!!  I found art to put on my iPod for quite a few imports/vinyl/not yet available for DL titles!
Thanks for the tip -- came in really handy. 

I am quite impressed by the Mono box (it arrived yesterday -- Stereo is still weeks away), but I found the tiny print replicas of the backs of the albums a tease -- if they are going to do it, either include blown up versions in the booklet (along with lyric inserts, etc.) or include a magnifying glass in the box.  I actually have a box with all the UK LPs so I do have that stuff full sized if necessary.

From what I've heard so far, the sound quality is good.
post #321 of 538
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Could be me, but I have to reach in and grab the disc to get it out, in there pretty tight and no room to grab the edges.


Jack,

Well, mine were easily removed.  I just opened it up and tilted the sleeve toward the ground, with my hand underneath the discs.  But I have had trouble with ENT DVDs as far as the discs being too tight on the drum.

***************

I received my mono. set of The Beatles Remastered yesterday. In a word, astounding. The packaging is to die for, the artwork for the albums is replicated virtually as it was released initially.  Aesthetically, the collection is the best I've ever seen for music. All of the liner notes are reproduced similarly to how they were originally released as well.

I spent about forty-five minutes ripping them to my PC. I will eventually burn one backup copy for myself, and my older children also want to burn a copy. I wish the stereo set were being packaged similarly (maybe in a black box?), because I can't imagine any way to improve upon this set.  Even the gatefold covers have been preserved for the albums that used them, and just about all of the inserts have been retained. :)

I plan on comparing this version of The White Album with the 30th Anniversary Collector's Edition CD (these are the numbered items that were released some time ago).  It should be fun and interesting.
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post #322 of 538
 Main problems I'm having are with some of the stereos. They're not little LP sleeves like the mono are where it just slides out.
post #323 of 538
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Main problems I'm having are with some of the stereos. They're not little LP sleeves like the mono are where it just slides out.

Jack,

Ahh, I see. So I have this problem to look forward to when I get the stereo set....

I do wish the two sets had been packaged similarly. But I may still like the stereo set packaging. We'll see.
post #324 of 538
Jack and Scott - I don't have similar problems with the stereo set (as far as getting the discs out), but I do recognize there are variances in production that could account for that.

 

Scott - I personally love the differences in packaging. They attempt to recreate as faithfully as possible (scaled for size) the LP experience with the mono, and include a more "deluxe" type of packaging, along with retrospective notes, in the stereo set. I think they handled this perfectly as the majority of people who will get the stereo discs will want that type of combination of new/retro packaging vs. the mono diehards who will want the LP reproduction. The great thing is that they don't really repeat anything from one to the other (both in content and packaging) so those of us who outlaid nearly $500 won't feel like we bought the same thing twice.

post #325 of 538
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Jack and Scott - I don't have similar problems with the stereo set (as far as getting the discs out), but I do recognize there are variances in production that could account for that.

 

Scott - I personally love the differences in packaging. They attempt to recreate as faithfully as possible (scaled for size) the LP experience with the mono, and include a more "deluxe" type of packaging, along with retrospective notes, in the stereo set. I think they handled this perfectly as the majority of people who will get the stereo discs will want that type of combination of new/retro packaging vs. the mono diehards who will want the LP reproduction. The great thing is that they don't really repeat anything from one to the other (both in content and packaging) so those of us who outlaid nearly $500 won't feel like we bought the same thing twice.


Carlo,

Your post is very encouraging!  I will reserve further judgment until I have both sets in hand.

"The great thing is that they don't really repeat anything from one to the other (both in content and packaging) so those of us who outlaid nearly $500 won't feel like we bought the same thing twice."

Excellent point. :)
post #326 of 538
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I have long thought there might be a discernable quality to The Beatles' songs, especially the early ones, which made them tend to be appreciable on the old AM radios. (A quiddity which earned them quid for their dittities? ;) )
 

Anyway, these new recordings are very, very good.  I'm hearing things I've not heard before, and where their music and my hearing it is concerned, that's saying something.  The rhythm guitar in "Baby It's You" and "Chains" is more crisp than ever, and the percussion is subtle and in no way overbearing.  The balance seems to be just right, in other words. 

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 I fear the amount of times I've mentioned it is far out of proportion to how much it really bothers me, it's but a small nuisance in contrast to how cool the packaging of both sets is. And I've already admitted to being ham-fisted. :)
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Originally Posted by Carlo Medina View Post

Jack and Scott - I don't have similar problems with the stereo set (as far as getting the discs out), but I do recognize there are variances in production that could account for that.

 

Scott - I personally love the differences in packaging. They attempt to recreate as faithfully as possible (scaled for size) the LP experience with the mono, and include a more "deluxe" type of packaging, along with retrospective notes, in the stereo set. I think they handled this perfectly as the majority of people who will get the stereo discs will want that type of combination of new/retro packaging vs. the mono diehards who will want the LP reproduction. The great thing is that they don't really repeat anything from one to the other (both in content and packaging) so those of us who outlaid nearly $500 won't feel like we bought the same thing twice.

post #328 of 538
Well Jack, I don't know if you'll be doing the backup rips that a lot of us seem to be doing (just to make sure these last forever, or at least our lifetime), but perhaps doing so would reduce your frustration?

I just bought a 30 pack of CD-Rs and will be backing up all of my Beatles stereo and mono discs via EAC and will be using those as my primarily playback discs. They'll be really easy to take out of the spindle
post #329 of 538
The 30th anniversary White Album CD is the exact same master as the '87 discs.

Still waiting on my mono set from BestBuy.com, but as far as the stereo packaging, I'm not too crazy about it but the discs themselves I have no trouble getting out.
post #330 of 538
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The 30th anniversary White Album CD is the exact same master as the '87 discs.

Still waiting on my mono set from BestBuy.com, but as far as the stereo packaging, I'm not too crazy about it but the discs themselves I have no trouble getting out.
 


Yes, thanks.  I don't own the 1987 (CD) copy of the White Album.  But I do own about six copies in vinyl and other formats. I acquired the 30th Anniversary album to fill in gaps in my Beatles CD collection.  It was also a bit rarer to obtain at the time.

I came home tonight, and my family is listening to the soundtrack album from Yellow Submarine.  (My daughter is very musical, and has so many questions about what the Beatles are doing harmonically here, melodically there, etc.).  But it's a ton of fun seeing them discover the Beatles in this way.
 

I just got through listening to Drive My Car and Things We Said Today.  A very high level of tonal ambiguity and Neopolitans in pop music ca. 1964-65?  This is why I love the music of this group so much.  There are layers upon layers of great music and some very teachable moments here.  When we get to Ticket To Ride in our studies, we'll have one of the only examples I know of in pop music whereby three non-harmonic tones are sung on a triad built on the lowered seventh degree of the key (A major).  Astonishing that it works so well, actually.  You almost don't hear them as non-harmonic tones.

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