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post #631 of 1171
6/26/09 at 9:00am
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I also concur with Mike about the RBI on a sacrifice fly. {BTW, I wonder if the infield fly rule would be invoked? I suppose it would depend on the distance of the fly out. If invoked, that could throw a bit of a wrench into the play, I think.}

You're taking the implausibility to new levels, Scott, if this is all supposed to happen on an infield pop-up!

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But since you've brought up the infield fly rule, how about this gem from the wiki page:

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Interestingly, even without the Infield Fly rule, best play by the team on offense can avoid a double play and in fact ensure that the result is exactly the same as if the rule were in effect. This is true even if the bases are loaded. The batter can run to first base and stand there. All other base runners stay where they are. If the fielder allows the ball to drop, then the moment the ball touches the ground, the batter can advance toward second base, passing the runner who is standing on first and causing himself, the batter, to be called out, according to rule 7.08H. And according to rule 7.08C, this nullifies the force so that all the baserunners can stay where they are, leaving the bases loaded.

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post #632 of 1171
6/26/09 at 11:25am
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post #633 of 1171
6/26/09 at 11:47am

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You're taking the implausibility to new levels, Scott, if this is all supposed to happen on an infield pop-up!
Mike,

I guess I could have been a bit clearer. I was thinking of that ball this isn't quite an infield pop up, yet is not so deep as to be a considered a fly ball out.

Stretching it a bit?

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post #634 of 1171
6/26/09 at 12:29pm
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Stretching it a bit?

Yup!
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post #635 of 1171
6/26/09 at 12:34pm

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It's good to stretch -- especially when playing baseball.

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post #636 of 1171
6/26/09 at 1:31pm
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Can you figure out what that guy in Post #632 is doing?

Crazy.
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post #637 of 1171
6/26/09 at 1:38pm

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Can you figure out what that guy in Post #632 is doing?

Crazy.
That's some nice razzle dazzle!
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post #638 of 1171
6/26/09 at 7:26pm

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The logistics of that would be tough, I think...

You're right...a more plausible scenario would be that the runners on 1st and 2nd were doubled (and tripled) off after leaving too early on a fly ball they didn't think would be caught.

Switching gears to today's game...it will be interesting to see what happens with Milton Bradley. He was sent home in the middle of the game after Piniella ripped him for punching a Gatorade cooler. I agree with Piniella being fed up with the petulance of the players this year (at least 4 other players have destroyed water/Gatorade coolers this year) but it's hard to single out Bradley when Zambrano and others get away with the same thing.
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post #639 of 1171
6/26/09 at 8:52pm

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One thing about Piniella is that he may be the guy to 'get tough' with players. He was a tough player in his time (I remember him mostly with the Royals); he doesn't strike me as someone who will put up with too much for very long.
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post #640 of 1171
6/26/09 at 10:25pm
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I'm mixed on the "patented Paul O'Neill beat up the water cooler" situation.

I understand when players get frustrated. Youkilis is a prime example of this kind of emotion. But, it is kind of dopey to take out your aggressions on a Gatorade cooler or some other inanimate object.

Maybe players like Youk and O'Neill should take some anger management classes with Jack Nicholson (a la the film Anger Management).
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post #641 of 1171
6/27/09 at 8:50am

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Maybe players like Youk and O'Neill should take some anger management classes with Jack Nicholson (a la the film Anger Management).

Could we keep Nicholson in such a class for life please? Thanks.
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post #642 of 1171
6/27/09 at 9:28am

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wow, after last night's game, Brett Gardner is now hitting 300. how'd have thought the Yanks would have too many outfielders even with Nady injured? that second inning for the Mets was pretty memorable. 3 errors contributing to 4 runs.
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post #643 of 1171
6/27/09 at 9:08pm
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It must be pretty hard to be a Met fan this summer. It is amazing they are still in contention considering all the gaffes and other strangeness.
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post #644 of 1171
6/29/09 at 5:49am
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What a superb night for Mariano Rivera last night.

On the same night he notches his 500th career save, he also gets his first major league RBI--in just his third major league at-bat.

I'll admit I was actually pulling for him to hit the ball hard during that at-bat last night (although I was a bit unsure of his manager's strategy of bringing him into the game in the 8th inning with his at-bat due to come up). He hit a nice drive in his second at-bat just a few days ago in Atlanta.
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post #645 of 1171
6/30/09 at 9:45am
loved that look on Jeter's face in the batter's box :)
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post #646 of 1171
6/30/09 at 10:09am
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loved that look on Jeter's face in the batter's box :)

Even I had to laugh at that (calm eyes be damned!).  The whole situation was pretty funny.
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post #647 of 1171
6/30/09 at 10:54am
John Lester pitched another masterpiece last night. He wasn't entirely dominating, but his eight Ks were somewhat impressive. And he didn't give up all that many hits, and had reasonably good control against the Orioles.

I've been thinking that the BoSox are going to have to step up their offensive output over the next few weeks. Although their schedule is quite favorable up to and including their next (ten-game) home stand, scoring six runs in three games like they did against the Braves won't often get it done.  Pedroia and Youkilis have actually been mini-slumping lately, although others have picked up the slack.

BTW, in the Sox's 2-1 loss to the Braves, I was happy to see that Nick Green was not charged with an error.  The scorer reversed his decision on that one, and IMO, rightly so.
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post #648 of 1171
7/1/09 at 6:33am
Did anyone catch the stunning comeback by the Orioles last night?  I did.  How I was hoping that the game would be rained out.  It was pouring at the bottom of the fifth inning with Boston leading, 9-1.

Incidentally, I think ESPN goes a bit too far praising the bullpen of the BoSox.  They're good, but not great.  They've been having difficulty getting people out lately (I'm talking for about 3-4 weeks, if not longer).  I think they have a lot of pitchers depth-wise, but not necessarily the best bullpen depth-wise in baseball.  There is much room for improvement.
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post #649 of 1171
7/1/09 at 7:50am
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Did anyone catch the stunning comeback by the Orioles last night? 

Don't know how anyone could miss that one! 

That was terrible!  My son (the Yankee fan) sure didn't miss it!  He was quick to tell me of the on-line headline:  Papelblown!

It's just one game.  We're still 5-1 against the Os this year.  And...the bats came back to life! 

Can you tell I'm a glass-half-full kind of guy?!? 
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post #650 of 1171
7/1/09 at 9:13am
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Don't know how anyone could miss that one! 

That was terrible!  My son (the Yankee fan) sure didn't miss it!  He was quick to tell me of the on-line headline:  Papelblown!

It's just one game.  We're still 5-1 against the Os this year.  And...the bats came back to life! 

Can you tell I'm a glass-half-full kind of guy?!? 
 
Mike,

Not to mention that it was hardly Papelbon's fault.  Sure, he gave up a double -- but he inherited those runners, didn't he?  In any event, I think the most effective pitcher of the evening was none other than ... John Smoltz! :)
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post #651 of 1171
7/1/09 at 9:37am
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In any event, I think the most effective pitcher of the evening was none other than ... John Smoltz! :)
 

Without a doubt.  Makes you wish the rain had never come.  That's twice this year the Red Sox have come out on the wrong side of rain issues. 

I'll be watching Smoltz' next start very closely.

BTW...everyone should note that the window for making your All-Star votes is closing quickly (another day or so).  So...if you really want to see Kevin Youkilis as your starting first baseman...let's GET GOING!  
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post #652 of 1171
7/1/09 at 9:43am
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Without a doubt. Makes you wish the rain had never come. That's twice this year the Red Sox have come out on the wrong side of rain issues.

I'll be watching Smoltz' next start very closely.

BTW...everyone should note that the window for making your All-Star votes is closing quickly (another day or so). So...if you really want to see Kevin Youkilis as your starting first baseman...let's GET GOING!
Mike,

Yep (regarding the rain issues). But the Sox did win one as well -- albeit a rather odd one given that a second game was played on the same day after the rained out game.

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post #653 of 1171
7/1/09 at 2:59pm
I think the Sox jinxed themselves when they ran off the field after only 2 outs. LMAO!!!

That game was all kinds of embarrassing in every aspect (after the rain delay)
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post #654 of 1171
7/1/09 at 7:32pm
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Maybe.

But that game is all forgotten themselves after they launched their own massive comeback in the 9th inning today against those same Orioles! 

And about that All-Star balloting.  Don't forget to cast those votes because there's a certain second basemen that might need your help, too! 
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post #655 of 1171
7/1/09 at 8:30pm
I was very pleased to see the Sox score four runs in the top of the ninth tonight, and to win it in eleven innings.  And how about this -- after I criticized their bullpen, their pitchers (starter and relievers) retired twenty-four Orioles in a row!
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post #656 of 1171
7/1/09 at 8:35pm
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You were kind of harsh on the pitching staff, Scott. 

They've been having a pretty good year--especially the bullpen (minus that other game against the Os).  And the pitching is soooooo deep.  It's the team's real strength as we head into the second half of the season. 
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post #657 of 1171
7/2/09 at 4:13pm
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You were kind of harsh on the pitching staff, Scott. 

They've been having a pretty good year--especially the bullpen (minus that other game against the Os).  And the pitching is soooooo deep.  It's the team's real strength as we head into the second half of the season. 
 

Mike,

I sure hope you're right.  I've seen some weaknesses there lately.  I want them to really buckle down and lower their combined ERA.
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post #658 of 1171
7/2/09 at 10:35pm
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You should call Francona and tell him.

Better yet, just pick up the phone and call the bullpen directly! 
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post #659 of 1171
7/3/09 at 8:01pm
Somewhat of a tough loss tonight, but we didn't really seem to be in the game for some reason.  Kottaras made it interesting.  I'm sure Pedroia is bummed, though.
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post #660 of 1171
7/3/09 at 9:43pm
Over the next two days, I expect to see Rick Monday's saving the flag clip to get tons of play; they aired it again in the game I watched tonight.  First, it was a great moment, it's a great clip.

 

But, because I also believe America is about some criticism.. Rick Monday is maybe one of the worst color commentators in the league.  Listening to a broadcast he's doing is unbearably bad.  There are a few radio calls around the country I really appreciate.  Listening to Rick Monday is the equivelent of fingernails down a chalkboard.  So, someone who knows me sent me this clip today, and I laughed my butt off.

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