New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

2009 MLB Thread - Page 7

post #181 of 1171
5/4/09 at 4:05pm

Re: 2009 MLB Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron Silverman
He's the first pitcher to have 20 wins against the Rays. He's generally been very good against them.

Too bad about yesterday though.
I know. The Rays play us tough, no matter how good or bad they are.

I'm hoping for a couple of things against the Bombers tonight and throughout the series. I hope the Sox sweep them again, and I also hope that Ortiz snaps out of his home run slump, what with right field and all at the new ballpark. He might be capable of a couple of 'excuse me' home runs.
Reply
post #182 of 1171
5/4/09 at 5:44pm

Re: 2009 MLB Thread

I know it's only 1 month into the season, but so far, Matt Holliday is not looking so good, in his first season away from Coors Field. Just like a few other players who posted great numbers with the Rockies, but not so great when with other teams.

Holliday gives naysayers early lead after first Coors-free month
Reply
post #183 of 1171
5/4/09 at 6:35pm

Re: 2009 MLB Thread

Well, Ortiz doubled to right, so that's a good start. I'd really like to see him break out tonight.

Walter,

Sorry about the Sixers. You were right. Still, I had hoped that they might pull the upset.
Reply
post #184 of 1171
5/4/09 at 6:45pm

Re: 2009 MLB Thread

Grienke is about to set the record books, maybe a bit early though, has to go a few more innings. Through 7 innings no runs. Which means he will have the lowest ERA for 6 starts at the begging of the season... ever. (.41ERA as of right now.. SICK)

If it weren't for a sick kid, I'd be at the park.. how often to Royals fans get to watch this kind of talent - and have him be on our side of the fence

Another minor record only for some of us.. Sports Illustrated Cover Jinx? Not so far.. please, no injuries SI
Reply
post #185 of 1171
5/4/09 at 7:31pm

Re: 2009 MLB Thread

Greinke grabs another COMPLETE game with NO ER. Awesome.

Stats after tonights game:


WINS

1. Zack Greinke , Royals 6
2. Chad Billingsley , Dodgers 5
2. Roy Halladay , Blue Jays 5
4. 8 more tied with 4

STRIKEOUTS

1. Zack Greinke, Royals 54
2. Javier Vazquez , Braves 50
3. Dan Haren , Diamondbacks 47
4. Justin Verlander , Tigers 45
5. Johan Santana , Mets 44

ERA

1. Zack Greinke, Royals 0.40
2. Johan Santana, Mets 1.10
3. Dan Haren, Diamondbacks 1.47
4. Johnny Cueto , Reds 1.65
5. Jair Jurrjens , Braves 1.89
Reply
post #186 of 1171
5/4/09 at 9:45pm

Re: 2009 MLB Thread

Also important is that the Royals are in first place at the moment.
Reply
post #187 of 1171
5/5/09 at 9:56am
Thread Starter 

Re: 2009 MLB Thread

In the highlights, it looked like the ump last night was giving Greinke some pretty low strikes...

Not that there's anything wrong with that!

What a start to a season! Go K.C.!
Reply
post #188 of 1171
5/5/09 at 10:41am

Re: 2009 MLB Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Frezon
In the highlights, it looked like the ump last night was giving Greinke some pretty low strikes...

Not that there's anything wrong with that!

What a start to a season! Go K.C.!
Greinke wouldn't have the record he has, nor the stats he has, if he weren't getting the benefit of the calls over 90% of the time. He's been quite lucky thus far, and getting all of the breaks.




















Just kidding, of course. Last night, I heard his name mentioned in the same sentence as Walter Johnson. I almost fell off my chair. Thats ... pretty fair company.
Reply
post #189 of 1171
5/5/09 at 12:36pm
Thread Starter 

Re: 2009 MLB Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ockeghem
Last night, I heard his name mentioned in the same sentence as Walter Johnson. I almost fell off my chair. Thats ... pretty fair company.

Yeah. I heard that. That was a pretty lame jump. Johnson had an entire career of that magnitude. Greinke's had six games to start off the 2009 season.

Don't get me wrong...a start of the season like he'll never have again (and most pitchers never will). But Walter Johnson comparisons?!?

In six seasons (including THIS season), Zach Greinke is 40-45 lifetime with a 4.03 ERA. He lead the league in losses in 2005 with a 5-17 record.

Walter Johnson's ERA over a 21-year career was 2.17. He had 417 wins against 279 losses. He won 20+ games twelve times and in 1913 was 36-7 (1.14). Let's see how Greinke's 2009 turns out before we get too crazy.

It would be cool to have a 30 game winner again in baseball...even if it is Zach Greinke. But, I'm doubtful.
Reply
post #190 of 1171
5/5/09 at 8:52pm

Re: 2009 MLB Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Frezon
It would be cool to have a 30 game winner again in baseball...even if it is Zach Greinke. But, I'm doubtful.
I'd like to see it again as well, but with the way rotations work, I think it's doubtful we will. I recall Denny McLain's 31-6 year rather well. Interestingly, his postseason (as I'm sure you know) was mediocre at best. Thank goodness for Mickey Lolich in the World Series.

What's amazing to me as well is Gibson's 1.12 ERA -- and twelve (or maybe it was thirteen) shutouts the same year! Those were the days.
Reply
post #191 of 1171
5/5/09 at 9:40pm

Re: 2009 MLB Thread

The reason why anyone raised the comparison is because of his streak. Only he, Randy Johnson & Walter Johnson have produced similar streak #s for the start of a season.

I wouldn't put him in that category. As to 2005.. he lost a lot of games like 2-1, or where our defense was downright terrible. And, by the middle of the season, like many Royals pitchers, he freaked out and started believing he had to pitch virtual no hitters or he was hosed.

I don't paint him for the hof yet, but I'll enjoy the success while it's here.
Reply
post #192 of 1171
5/6/09 at 6:34am
Thread Starter 

Re: 2009 MLB Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by mattCR
I don't paint him for the hof yet, but I'll enjoy the success while it's here.

Absolutely. He sure is looking good right now!

The thing is...you never know. Even Walter Johnson was 13-25 in his second full year. Good thing someone had faith in him.

Looking at his stats are like looking at Ty Cobb's. You're just left shaking your head. Among the numbers that stand out to me this morning are the number of innings he pitched in a season.

Out of his 21 seasons in the majors, he pitched 200+ seasons in 19 of them (all except his first and last). Eleven of those seasons he pitched 290+ innings. Nine times he pitched 322+ innings. And three times he pitched more than 369 innings!

WJ's career IP 5914.2. Clemens' career IP (just to pull a name from a hat) 4916.2.
Reply
post #193 of 1171
5/6/09 at 6:38am

Re: 2009 MLB Thread

So when are they going to suspend Jobba for deliberately taking his anger out on another player??
Reply
post #194 of 1171
5/6/09 at 6:55am
Thread Starter 

Re: 2009 MLB Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkHastings
So when are they going to suspend Jobba for deliberately taking his anger out on another player??

Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Mark? Something in last night's game?
Reply
post #195 of 1171
5/6/09 at 7:56am

Re: 2009 MLB Thread

As much as I despise the Yankees, when Chamberlain struck out eight consecutive Red Sox batters last night, his emotions on the mound were a great thing to see. I think baseball needs more of that.
Reply
post #196 of 1171
5/6/09 at 8:09am

Re: 2009 MLB Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Frezon
Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Mark? Something in last night's game?
He was REAL angry about a called ball (the batter before) that he thought was a strike and you know he purposely hit Bay because he lost control of his emotions.

As Ockeghem said, after the first inning, he settled down beautifully and was in command of every pitch...so there's no way that you can not argue that he lost control of that pitch. It was deliberate.
Reply
post #197 of 1171
5/6/09 at 11:00am

Re: 2009 MLB Thread

Glad to see the Phils sweep the Cards, even with Pujols hitting the home run off Lidge (memory of the 2005 NLCS).

Granted, it was only a 2-game series, but I'll take it.

Next: a 2-game set at Citi Field, against the Mets.
Reply
post #198 of 1171
5/6/09 at 12:57pm
Thread Starter 

Re: 2009 MLB Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkHastings
He was REAL angry about a called ball (the batter before) that he thought was a strike and you know he purposely hit Bay because he lost control of his emotions.

As Ockeghem said, after the first inning, he settled down beautifully and was in command of every pitch...so there's no way that you can not argue that he lost control of that pitch. It was deliberate.

Gotcha. Wasn't aware of that situation. I couldn't get the game on TV so I listened to most of it on radio...but I missed the first inning and wasn't aware of the chain of events.

I think that young man's got some serious issues.
Reply
post #199 of 1171
5/7/09 at 9:36am
Thread Starter 

Re: 2009 MLB Thread

Manny's been suspended 50 games for testing positive for performance-enhancing drugs.

Manny says the drug was prescribed for a personal health issue.
Reply
post #200 of 1171
5/7/09 at 9:39am

Re: 2009 MLB Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Frezon
Manny's been suspended 50 games for testing positive for performance-enhancing drugs.

Manny says the drug was prescribed for a personal health issue.
Mike,

I just saw this on CNN. Thanks for posting it. It should be interesting what transpires.
Reply
post #201 of 1171
5/7/09 at 9:43am
Thread Starter 

Re: 2009 MLB Thread

It's going to really hurt his legacy...unless he completely proves what he's saying about how it happened. If he can't produce the doctor and disclose the health issue, he may wind up in McGwire-Land. That would be a shame.

I've boosted Manny as the best right-handed hitter in generations.
Reply
post #202 of 1171
5/7/09 at 11:01am
Thread Starter 

Re: 2009 MLB Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Frezon
I've boosted Manny as the best right-handed hitter in generations.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Frezon in Post #258 of the '06-'07 MLB Hot Stove Thread
Manny Ramirez is currently (at the age of 34) in 44th place on the all-time career RBI list with 1516. He averages 135 RBIs a season.

If Manny reaches 120 RBIs a season for the next six years...

At end of 2007 season, he'll be tied with Ernie Banks in 22nd place with 1636.

At the end of 2008, he'll move in front of Honus Wagner into 18th place with 1756 RBIs.

After '09, Manny would have 1876 RBIs and move into 11th place all time just behind Willie Mays.

After '10, Manny would reach 1996 RBIs and move one in front of Lou Gehrig and into 4th place all-time.

In the 2011 season, Manny would be 39. If his RBI production dropped down to 80 he would record his 2,076th RBI and move into a tie for 3rd all-time with Cap Anson.

The only people still in front of him would be Babe Ruth (2nd place with 2217) and Hank Aaron (1st with 2297).

Rarefied air. Could happen. Should happen. I don't know why more people don't recognize the greatness that is right in front of them.

Manny only had 88 RBIs in '07. But he rebounded to 121 in '08 and was well on his way to another 120 in '09. Now...not so likely.

But at the end of the '08 campaign his career RBI total was 1725 (not too far off from my generous hypothetical).
Reply
post #203 of 1171
5/7/09 at 12:14pm

Re: 2009 MLB Thread

He is not going to appeal, which sounds fishy to me. A) Not going to appeal B) Not going to give more details about this injury, the doctor, or the prescribed drug = Lying about something.
Reply
post #204 of 1171
5/7/09 at 12:43pm

Re: 2009 MLB Thread

Now they're saying it was a women's fertility drug!!!

Apparently it's also useful for ED and. . .masking other things. Hm. . .
Reply
post #205 of 1171
5/7/09 at 1:55pm
Thread Starter 

Re: 2009 MLB Thread

I'm sure he can offer up a good reason for taking a woman's fertility drug.



It's one thing to get caught. Butr what do you think you are accomplishing when you then say something such as, "...personal health issue, doctor prescribed..." Just making it worse.
Reply
post #206 of 1171
5/7/09 at 1:58pm

Re: 2009 MLB Thread

His source is saying it was used for his erectile dysfunction?? LOL
Reply
post #207 of 1171
5/7/09 at 4:10pm

Re: 2009 MLB Thread

It's also perscribed in men as a HRT to help control weight gain.. ie, like an illegal weight loss drug.

But, putting Manram aside, Royals win again, and sweep the homestand, taking out AL East leaders the Mariners 1-2-3.
Reply
post #208 of 1171
5/7/09 at 11:54pm

Re: 2009 MLB Thread

Manny being Barry.

Man, I hope my guy, Ryan Howard, is clean. He comes from a naturally big family and has never even been mentioned in any rumors, but you can just never tell nowadays. Being a fan in the "Steroid Era" sucks.

Evan
Reply
post #209 of 1171
5/8/09 at 5:53am

Re: 2009 MLB Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Evan Case
Manny being Barry.
NESN used something like "Manny being Nasty".

They were also saying this drug is something that players take AFTER they've stopped using steroids. From what it sounded like; once a player stops using steroids, their testosterone levels go down and they need to bring them back up...and this is the drug they often use.

So basically they were saying that this drug is a pretty good indication that he was using steroids recently.
Reply
post #210 of 1171
5/8/09 at 6:16am

Re: 2009 MLB Thread

The BoSox score twelve runs in one inning before making one out. Sheesh, they were one run away from tying the record (I saw on ESPN that it was done in 1883 by the White Stockings).
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: After Hours Lounge