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Time Tunnel S1 &2 - Good buy?

post #1 of 98
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Seeking advice on this one.

BB is running a special until April 14 where you can get Seasons 1 & 2 of Time Tunnel for 20 bucks a pop. Now, I've only seen the show once many moons ago (I think the two guys go back to the fall of Troy or something) and remember liking it. Fiance and I are a fan of the time travel genre with shows like Quantum Leap, Journeyman and the soon-to-be-late Life on Mars and I'm trying to get some opinions on if this show is a worthwhile investment.

Open to comments, fire away.

Gear mentioned in this thread:

The Time Tunnel - Volume One
The Time Tunnel - Volume Two
post #2 of 98

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It was only on for one season. What you are seeing is volume 1 and 2 of season 1, which is 15 episodes a volume or 30 episodes in all for the entire season.

I picked it up a while back after renting the first episode to check it out. It is a fun "Irwin" style show. I have yet to watch them all but from what I recall in reviews I read before purchasing is the the first half is better.

Amazon also has it for $20 a volume.
post #3 of 98

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Absolutely, do it! You can't go wrong!

It's a fun, imaginative sixties-era show, with some surprisingly good moments -- especially in the WWII Episodes, "The Day the Sky Fell In" and "Kill Two By Two"!

John Williams scored the therme and the pilot episode. Great sets and SFX for its time! Often ingenious matching of stock footage from old FOX feature films to give the episodes a "cinematic" feel. The great stable of "sixties-era professional guest stars" -- including Sci-Fi Feature stalwarts Michael Rennie ("The Day the Earth Stood Still") and Warren Stevens ("Forbidden Planet")!

As with every sixties-era show viewed from a 21st Century perspective, there is the occasional bump -- but, in its context, it still works quite well!

...And a good price to boot? Go for it!
post #4 of 98

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Does anybody else think the unaired 2002 pilot was good? I can't imagine why they didn't air it. It seems better then most of the junk on the air now and it looks like they spent a bundle on it.
post #5 of 98

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First off, to the original poster, yeah, I say go for it too. I'm a huge fan of the show, though I recognize its limitations and flaws.

There are a few moments of bringing up time paradoxes and things like that, but for the larger part its an adventure series placing the two heroes into historical events.

As mentioned, the guest cast is top notch for the era. Watch for turns by soon-to-be-big-stars Carroll O'Connor (in a brilliant dual role), Robert Duvall, and Ellen Burstyn (billed as McCrae).

As reminded by "chas speed", not only do you get the full season of shows on the two sets, but included in the second set is a full and excellent TV movie called THE TIME TRAVELERS, a later pilot of Irwin Allen's, with input from none other than Rod Serling. Add to that the full and complete 2002 pilot to a propsed reboot of THE TIME TUNNEL, that's also included.

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Originally Posted by chas speed
Does anybody else think the unaired 2002 pilot was good? I can't imagine why they didn't air it. It seems better then most of the junk on the air now and it looks like they spent a bundle on it.

I liked that pilot too. The word I heard is that the powers that be felt the show resembled STARGATE too much, so they passed on it.

Harry
post #6 of 98

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Sounds like I have another classic TV Series to check out!
post #7 of 98

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The Time Tunnel itself is worth the price. Such a colorful imaginative set piece. The updated pilot turned it into a corroded dull-looking pipe, which is partly why I didn't care for it. I think Fox did a superb job with the set. They included a lot of behind the scenes footage (including a screen test for the tunnel itself!), a few interviews, the TV film and the new pilot. I first thought the Irwin Allen film (one of the extras) was going to be a dull, routine tv film, but Rod Serling's writing elevated it to a nice surprise. If you are interested in time travel films and series as you said in your original post, this is a must. As a fan of the series, I was not disappointed in Fox's releases.
post #8 of 98

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I've never seen this show before. Is it any good? I'm thinking of picking it up as my local Best Buy has the sets for sale.
post #9 of 98

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For a long discussion on the series, starting way back in 2004, long before DVDs were even rumored, check out this thread:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/...where-you.html

And if you want to view any of the series before buying, US members with broadband connections can see every episode at Hulu - The Time Tunnel

View the first episode, "Rendezvous With Yesterday" to get the premise of the series.

Harry
post #10 of 98

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I was a huge Time Tunnel fan when it originally aired, but I have to be honest and say that I think the show has more appeal as an item of nostalgia for original fans than it would for viewers who haven't seen it before.

I think if you were new to the show today, all the cheesiness of the production would be magnified to the nth degree. And if you've been used to shows like Stargate or the new Battlestar Galactica, it's just not going to hold up, visual-wise. Also, keep in mind that James Darren was a teen pop star when cast for this to help bring in some girl fans to the sci-fi boy base. He's no actor, and it shows. Robert Colbert is much better, and it's a hoot to see some of the guest stars of the day, but just don't tune in cold thinking you're going to see something that stands the test of time.

Most of Irwin Allen's shows (Land of the Giants, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, Lost in Space) were written for an audience of boys around 10-12 years old who partially ruled their family's television sets during the era. So if you were 10 back in the sixties - perfect. And if you're a nostalgic baby boomer and want to take your own time tunnel back to being 10 again, that works, too.

But just be prepared if you weren't there the first time: the ride could get very cheesy. It makes Star Trek look like Chekhov (the author, not the ... oh, you get the pun).
post #11 of 98

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Originally Posted by Hollywoodaholic

I think if you were new to the show today, all the cheesiness of the production would be magnified to the nth degree. And if you've been used to shows like Stargate or the new Battlestar Galactica, it's just not going to hold up, visual-wise.

You are, of course, correct… but be let’s be completely fair about it.

I love all sixties sci-fi series (Full disclosure: I was 9-13 for most of it.), and I also love LOST and HEROES.

The fact is that you cannot compare the two types of show – so don’t try! Just sit back and enjoy both types – and consider what Time Tunnel must have looked like to an audience whose “baseline” was Father Knows Best and Leave it to Beaver!

It looked amazing back then, as the contemporary series do now in comparison.

To Matt, Pete, and Mark… check it out, and I think you’ll enjoy it.
post #12 of 98
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Thanks for the advice and the link to the older thread.

I've decided that I'll be picking up TT Vol. 1 and 2 on Wednesday as a group Easter present for the fiance and myself. Also getting her an 80s show she liked as a present for her own (Punky Brewster, if you must know) so we get both the classic and the current.

Actually, I think except for Twilight Zone, Tunnel will be the first show for the 60s that I own, come to think of it.
post #13 of 98

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Go for it, Matt!!!!

And as for buying more 1960s TV series, may Time Tunner NOT be your final purcahse!!!!! I added this fine series within weeks of each other back in 2007--the first-half also coming in a Best Buy $19.99 box-set special at the time. Once I checked it out...I NEVER LOOKED BACK!!!!!!! The colors pop right out at you and the audio, mere era-specific TV monorual, is servicable.

IMHO, just mentally losing and immersing yourself in the sci-fi vagaries of the time--pun intended --makes the journey that much more richer!!!!!
post #14 of 98

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I think if you were new to the show today, all the cheesiness of the production would be magnified to the nth degree. And if you've been used to shows like Stargate or the new Battlestar Galactica, it's just not going to hold up, visual-wise. Also, keep in mind that James Darren was a teen pop star when cast for this to help bring in some girl fans to the sci-fi boy base. He's no actor, and it shows. Robert Colbert is much better, and it's a hoot to see some of the guest stars of the day, but just don't tune in cold thinking you're going to see something that stands the test of time.

I would think that for modern audiences, the bigger issue would be not so much the sets and special effects but the characters themselves. The two time travellers in particular are always seen reacting directly with some thinly drawn characters from historical periods and the predicaments they find themselves in at the moment. Some guest stars though were able to add an additional dimension to their characters and Harry mentioned the excellent performance given by Caroll O' Connor. But as with most Irwin Allen series, here in TT interactions between the main characters on a deeper level and their feelings of hopelessness, separation from friends and family, etc. is rarely touched upon. A notable exception is the fan favorite "The Day the Sky Fell In", which in a loose way is to TT what "City on the Edge of Forever" is to ST. Overall, the show is what it is and I enjoy it from the prespective of the "running and jumping" series that it was established as.

I'm about through with going the series a second time, myself. Next up--"Raiders from Outer Space".
post #15 of 98

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in retrospect,
I'm so glad that there was only one Science Fiction
(never mind Adventure or Fantasy), show in the 1960's:
'Star Trek'.
because, you know, like what if they had been allowed to create
more than one T.V. show back in those times,(instead of one
show that all others are meant to be compared with or that
this show or that one should have been 'THAT' show....'Star Trek'!)
'Time Tunnel'(or any other fantastic programming),
can't be enjoyable, or be allowed to stand on it's
own merits without COMPARISON, of course)!
reminds me of that "Twilight Zone' episode with the snout-
nosed doctors & nurses and the message about...."CONFORMITY".
'Star Trek' was NEVER cheesy, had bad special effects or a single
poorly written episode, ever!
poor 'Time Tunnel'.........................(at least I love you)!
post #16 of 98

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Originally Posted by DVD S.
'Star Trek' was NEVER cheesy, had bad special effects or a singlepoorly written episode, ever!

This tongue in cheek observation speaks to a fundamental truth that's been obscured for too many years IMO, namely that if one ever objectively looked at Trek episode by episode one would find just as high a ratio of clunkers to gems as for any other show of the day. "Patterns Of Force" with it's Nazi-planet episode is a concept straight out of the S3 LIS handbook as far as I'm concerned but because they expect us to take it seriously it makes the episode all the more insulting to the intelligence than even "Spock's Brain" is.
post #17 of 98

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Originally Posted by Jack P
This tongue in cheek observation speaks to a fundamental truth that's been obscured for too many years IMO, namely that if one ever objectively looked at Trek episode by episode one would find just as high a ratio of clunkers to gems as for any other show of the day.

People seem to forget that while Star Trek was airing it was not hugely popular,
as one might think, nor was it that much in the public consciousness at the time,
any more than The Time Tunnel was. It was never in the top 25 shows in the
Neilsen ratings. It seems to have gained its reputation over time, from its base
of fans and then the movie revival ten years later.
post #18 of 98

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yes, MartinP. ,I know that fact very well(about
"Star Trek"'s original un-receptive fan-base),
but they did get a third season produced(due to
rabid letter writing).
it wasn't until about 1976 when this and other
Science Fiction movies and TV shows started getting
verrrry popular(to the point of Comic Conventions,
and the extremes of "Logan's Run" fanatics, running around
in L.R. red & pastel colored garb).
this is also when Starlog magazine began it's run
and if I'm not mistaken the first(or was it the second)
issue, had "Star Trek" on the cover.
but, I do believe that all 1960's Science Fiction & Fantasy
shows started to receive much more popularity and desire
for re-surfacing(after the "topical-relevance All In The Family"
era had been in play for some time)and due in no small part
to Gary Gerani's book "Fantastic Television".
post #19 of 98

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It would be a good buy if the date was 1968 and you were 10 years old.
post #20 of 98

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...instead, we are treated to someone making comments
befitting of a 10 year old.
post #21 of 98

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I think 20 years from now someone will be writing in asking if they should spend money on the sci fi channel's "Battlestar Galactica" and they will get a reply saying don't bother it doesn't hold up compared to today's shows and it's dated. I don't really get the "dated" thing people like to throw out. When you consider how bad movies and TV shows are today, I can't think of a higher compliment then calling something "dated".
post #22 of 98

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Originally Posted by Jim B.
It would be a good buy if the date was 1968 and you were 10 years old.

Exactly what are you contributing to this thread with a post like this?

To show how clever and snide you can be? Other than that, I don’t see anything of possible value.

The originator of this thread asked in good faith if Time Tunnel was worth buying. Earlier in this thread I gave him what I would classify as good reasons. Others may have taken a different view with reasons of their own – BUT they stated their case with reasons and not baseless sarcasm.

Criticize all you wish, it’s an open forum. But do so intelligently and with reason, as is most often the case on the HTF boards.
post #23 of 98

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Originally Posted by chas speed
I don't really get the "dated" thing people like to throw out. When you consider how bad movies and TV shows are today, I can't think of a higher compliment then calling something "dated".
I very much agree, rock bottom right now for both, so dated is indeed a compliment. I loved TT as a kid and still do, too bad they only made one season when it so deserved a longer life span. Love that old-fashioned new story every week format, modern TV drama's basically soaps no matter the setting. But that's a discussion for some other 'time'. Btw, am I the one thinking Tom Brokaw sounds just like Colbert?
post #24 of 98
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If I may say something...

I don't have a problem with something being "dated." I'm a history major, soon to be a teacher by trade so I actually LIKE when a certain show I'm watching has a stamp of a time period on it. It helps to place the show in context.

And at the risk of sounding like a prude, trust me, I find ILL and TZ to be far more entertaining than a lot of the other tripe I see on regular TV these days, so it says something about older shows standing up to the test of time.

But, to bring us back to topic, I'm planning on trying to pick up TT V1 and 2 this afternoon if I can get all my class work done before 4 PM. Wish me luck!
post #25 of 98

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Originally Posted by MattPeriolat
If I may say something...

I don't have a problem with something being "dated." I'm a history major, soon to be a teacher by trade so I actually LIKE when a certain show I'm watching has a stamp of a time period on it. It helps to place the show in context.

That's half the fun of watching Vintage Sci-Fi! There are LOADS of series out there that have thing in them that in their day were Science-Fiction, now they are reality. For Example:

STAR TREK - Cell Phones (Communicators), Stealth Technology (Cloaking Devices)

THUNDERBIRDS - Laptop Computers, Senior Citizen Scooters

LOST IN SPACE - Internet Marketing.

TIME TUNNEL - Area 51 style "Super Secret" Bases

Maybe some of you out there can list other examples!
post #26 of 98

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Originally Posted by chas speed
I don't really get the "dated" thing people like to throw out. When you consider how bad movies and TV shows are today, I can't think of a higher compliment then calling something "dated".

Jeff, same as Henry posted, you have the quote of the year for my money

TT has always been in my top 5 all-time shows. When Fox released the DVD's, it was time for me. With the stellar transfer Q to DVD, watchng these shows was "memory lane" big-time. I used to play "TT" outside with my friend when it was originally airing and we had that "tumbling out of the tunnel" action nailed

I do get what some have said, though, about a show from this era "standing the test of time". That's always a measurement indicy we all use for these old shows. I've been very fortunate collecting TV/DVD's since '04 in that nearly all of my "nostalgia" buys have passed that test. I can only think of 1 or 2 that were questionable in that regard.

Back to TT, since it's been revived with this thread, my favorite episodes are:

One Way to the Moon (I loved that dual "Beard" role)
Revenge of the Gods (John Doucette as "Ulysses" first-rate! That guy was just a 1st-class character actor)
Visitors from Beyond the Stars (I liked the "future/past" twist to this one)
The Walls of Jericho (Rhodes Reason as "Joshua"...great!)
Chase Through Time (Robert Duvall "Nimon"), enough said.
Merlin the Magician (Christopher Cary as "Merlin"...perfect casting..."I [pause] am Merlin"
End of the World (Paul Fix as "Henderson", one of my all-time character actors from the Rifleman & a Big Valley role)
The Day the Sky Fell In (we get to see a young Susan Flannery as "Louise")
The Last Patrol (as Harry said, top-rate dual Carroll O'Connor role)
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Uh....I guess it's obvious this one's a "grail" show for me

I agree that there were a couple of imo, "weak" eps later in the series.

These two don't set me to 'ing:

Raiders from Outer Space
Town of Terror
post #27 of 98

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Originally Posted by Jeff Willis
I agree that there were a couple of imo, "weak" eps later in the series.


Every TV Show has em. You know what they say, "There's always a Bad Apple in the Barrel!"
post #28 of 98

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It's a fun show. If you have the time to watch and a few extra bucks, it is well worth your time.
post #29 of 98
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I came, I saw, I went broke.

All kidding aside, I went to Best Buy and picked up both volumes and will be watching them this weekend. College work comes first, sorry.

Just at first blush, very interested in the extras, especially the 2002 Pilot and watching the Time Travellers movie, which is probably what I saw that exposed me to the show originally.

About the went broke? Fiance is getting complete series set for Powerpuff Girls.

Oh and this must be a week or something for Time Tunnel because I heard this week from my local comic store that a collection of the 1960s comic series based on Time Tunnel will be out this summer, so something else for fans to collect!

So, let me guess... Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea next or LIS?
post #30 of 98

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Originally Posted by MattPeriolat
I came, I saw, I went broke.

So, let me guess... Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea next or LIS?

I know how you feel! This happens OFTEN with me, especially when someone like DeeDee's has a BOGO Sale!

VTTBOTS or LIS? I Say BOTH! (Make sure you can get em for a Good Price!)
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Gear mentioned in this thread:

The Time Tunnel - Volume One
The Time Tunnel - Volume Two