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post #31 of 158
4/20/09 at 7:06am

Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

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Originally Posted by jdee28
Notice how CBS/Paramount talks about the beautiful remastering in their message, but say nothing about the audio. Hopefully there will be no music replacements on this, that Lucy is a big enough name, that they went out and cleared the music. It would be really sad to see this go the way of My Three Sons.

The truly sad thing is that we are even having to talk about the potential of this. Shows how much we've lost faith in CBS/P because of previous releases (THE FUGITIVE, MY THREE SONS). I'd be shocked if the entire backscore was redone. Unfortunately, I wouldn't be shocked if there was a song substitution here or there. The Christmas episode did feature one or two famous Christmas songs, but I'm hoping those are public domain at this point and it won't be an issue.

Gary "it would be very bold of CBS to bring back the 'we put classic TV on a pedestal' ad if they were doing anything drastic to the music" O.
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post #32 of 158
4/20/09 at 7:31am

Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

Speaking for myself, I think Lucy will be fine as CBS/P would be dealing with a big public relations nightmare by responding to the demand for Lucy with an inferior product. Plus, after all, one would assume they are hoping to get more than one season out of the demand.

I'll certainly be on board for a release. Give me a reason to sell off my Mill Creek volume of Lucy as a trade-up.
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post #33 of 158
4/20/09 at 7:42am

Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

I'm so stoked about this being announced--I posted at Sitcoms Online and even made it my status at Facebook! LOL

it'll be nice to finally get rid of my old VHS taped off Nick at Nite versions!

I think sales for this one will be brisk and that will encourage CBS to release season 2 as well, as many fans will also want to own the first Mr. Mooney season. I think we may get at least Season 3 out of CBS too. After that, it may be abandoned as sales taper off for the less popular seasons (amongst hardcore fans). Just my take, not gospel!
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post #34 of 158
4/20/09 at 7:43am

Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

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Originally Posted by MattPeriolat
Give me a reason to sell off my Mill Creek volume of Lucy as a trade-up.

You might want to wait on doing that until the later seasons of the series are released. The episodes on the Mill Creek collection (and others like St. Clair Entertainment) are the public domain episodes and the vast majority of them are from seasons 5 and 6. A couple of the PD episodes are from season 1, though.
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post #35 of 158
4/20/09 at 7:52am

Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

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Originally Posted by Jude86
I think sales for this one will be brisk and that will encourage CBS to release season 2 as well, as many fans will also want to own the first Mr. Mooney season.

If I were a betting man I'd say we could reasonably expect to see Season 2 by the end of the year. This will almost surely be a nice seller for CBS/P and they've generally released these type of sets twice a year.

Gary "I'm excited to see this set coming too - it's been quite some time since I've seen most of these first season episodes" O.
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post #36 of 158
4/20/09 at 8:59am

Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

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Originally Posted by Jude86
I think sales for this one will be brisk and that will encourage CBS to release season 2 as well, as many fans will also want to own the first Mr. Mooney season. I think we may get at least Season 3 out of CBS too. After that, it may be abandoned as sales taper off for the less popular seasons (amongst hardcore fans). Just my take, not gospel!

And the other issue to consider before selling off the PD releases (the bulk of which are from season 5) is that after Lucy moves to California in season 4, they start relying much more heavily on the Lucy-Meets-the-Celebrity-of-the-Week format with its emphasis on stars singing. The music clearances in these seasons will be an absolute nightmare.
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post #37 of 158
4/20/09 at 9:17am

Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

Someone here who claimed to be "in the know" says we shouldn't worry about music replacement on "Lucy Show Season 1." I sure hope he's right.
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post #38 of 158
4/20/09 at 9:32am

Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

Oh oh. There's something ominous in that story on TVShowsonDVD.

It gives the running time as 733 minutes.

Dividing that by 30 episodes comes to slightly under 24 and 1/2 minutes per episode.

In 1962-63, half-hour sitcoms minus commercials should clock in at 26 minutes per episode.

Could it be ... is it even possible ... don't tell me ... but are they using syndicated prints for this?

If so, I'm going on record now: Obviously, it will go from "Must Buy" to "No Sale" for me ... and it will be the last straw. It will once and for all keep me from ever being excited about a TVonDVD release again.
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post #39 of 158
4/20/09 at 9:41am

Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

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Originally Posted by Joe Lugoff
Oh oh. There's something ominous in that story on TVShowsonDVD.

It gives the running time as 733 minutes.

Dividing that by 30 episodes comes to slightly under 24 and 1/2 minutes per episode.

In 1962-63, half-hour sitcoms minus commercials should clock in at 26 minutes per episode.

Could it be ... is it even possible ... don't tell me ... but are they using syndicated prints for this?

If so, I'm going on record now: Obviously, it will go from "Must Buy" to "No Sale" for me ... and it will be the last straw. It will once and for all keep me from ever being excited about a TVonDVD release again.

I wouldn't worry too much about the stated running time. They're frequently off. The official announcement did say these came from the original negatives, so I doubt they're syndicated prints. I'm sure they'll be complete.
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post #40 of 158
4/20/09 at 9:59am
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Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

Joe, you're jumping to conclusions. You're making a big assumption about running times in the 1960's ... most shows back then ran around 24-25 minutes. Also, I seriously doubt that you have the original broadcast episodes or are old enough to remember that time.

Bewitched, I Dream of Jeannie, Wonder Woman, Kung Fu, Gilligan's Island, etc all ran at 24-25 minutes but never exceeded that.
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post #41 of 158
4/20/09 at 10:04am

Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

I've seen that "original negatives" comment before, and they turned out to be syndicated prints.

For some shows -- as unbelieveable as it seems -- they cut the original negatives to make "original syndicated negatives" -- and threw what they cut away!

Joe "The Voice of Doom" Lugoff
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post #42 of 158
4/20/09 at 10:10am

Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

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Originally Posted by Mark Talmadge
Joe, you're jumping to conclusions. You're making a big assumption about running times in the 1960's ... most shows back then ran around 24-25 minutes. Also, I seriously doubt that you have the original broadcast episodes or are old enough to remember that time.

I'm afraid you're jumping to conclusions. I'm more than old enough to remember that time.

It seems like yesterday when I sat down to watch the first episode of "The Lucy Show" the night of Monday, October 1, 1962. I was 12 at the time, and "I Love Lucy" was my favorite show.

It seemed odd at first to see what amounted to Lucy and Ethel without Ricky and Fred, but it quickly won me over as I saw Lucy and Ethel (Viv) were pretty much the same as they had always been.

To the point, though: Sitcoms in 1962-63 were 26 minutes, including the opening and closing credits. There were three minutes of commercials during the show and one minute between shows. They got shorter later in the decade.
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post #43 of 158
4/20/09 at 1:09pm

Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

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Originally Posted by Gary OS
Gary "can't wait to get another great Christmas-themed episode in pristine, uncut condition that I can add to my collection" O.

Gary, do you have a list of all your Christmas-themed television episodes?
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post #44 of 158
4/20/09 at 3:34pm

Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

Has there been any confirming of music replacement, one way or another?
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post #45 of 158
4/20/09 at 3:35pm

Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

What can I say .... I am SO excited to hear that this often ignored TV series is FINALLY coming out on DVD, officially! I've waited years and years for this SPECIAL day to come ... and now, it's just around the corner.

I do hope that the sales of season 1 are strong enough to green light seasons 2 and 3 and possibly the later seasons. I would love to own more of this series on DVD. It doesn't just stop at season 1, at least, to me.
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post #46 of 158
4/20/09 at 3:46pm

Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

I'm in for all the seasons and will consider this release a big dissapointment if we don't get all 6 seasons even if some are better than others. Seasons 1 and 6 and nowhere near as good as the rest of I love Lucy but that was no reason not to release them.
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post #47 of 158
4/20/09 at 4:45pm
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Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

The series was just announced so no details are known about the release.
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post #48 of 158
4/20/09 at 4:57pm

Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

I just wanted to add to my worries that "The Lucy Show" was shown on CBS weekday mornings, starting in 1968, and they were cut for that. It was those cut versions (often with new music added for the new breaks for commercials) that were the basis of the syndicated versions.

It's possible they're using those cut versions. Only time will tell. Never in my life have I more wanted to be proved wrong.
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post #49 of 158
4/21/09 at 8:43am

Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

Are the same people that worked on the I Love Lucy season also working on this? If so, I'm sure we'll get the best set possible.
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post #50 of 158
4/21/09 at 10:17am

Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

"Best set possible."

That's exactly what I'm worried about. It's possible only the cut prints exist now. The original complete negatives -- and this series hasn't been seen uncut since it was first shown, over 45 years ago -- might have been lost or destroyed.
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post #51 of 158
4/21/09 at 12:29pm

Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

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Originally Posted by Joe Lugoff
"Best set possible."

That's exactly what I'm worried about. It's possible only the cut prints exist now. The original complete negatives -- and this series hasn't been seen uncut since it was first shown, over 45 years ago -- might have been lost or destroyed.

I have bootlegs that include the handful of episodes released by Columbia House from the first season on. They all run 25 minutes. I don't think there is anything to worry about in regards to them being full length. The music, may be another story based on past CBS/Paramount releases.
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post #52 of 158
4/21/09 at 1:12pm

Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

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Originally Posted by MartinP.
Gary, do you have a list of all your Christmas-themed television episodes?

Yes I do, Martin. If you'd like a copy let me know and I'll PM it to you.

Gary "nothing like Christmas-themed TV, especially from the 50's and 60's" O.
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post #53 of 158
4/21/09 at 5:12pm

Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

This is Lucy we are talking about. I cannot believe anyone would cut into the original films. This show was highly rated. Yes it was not "I Love Lucy". I only own the "Shower episode" and the color "Jack Benny Bank episode". I do not remember any of the seasons. I remember watching all of "The Lucy Show" as a 9 year old kid. "Here's Lucy" was opposite Peyton Place in Peytons last season so I missed a great deal of "Here's Lucy. Peyton Place is being restored now and out on May 19th. I bring this up only because Peyton Place came out in 1964 and the episodes are running 25 minutes long and it was on ABC show from Fox. Lucy and Desi were Presidents of Desilu during "The Lucy Show". Desi the first season I belive until as we all know Lucy bought him out. I just cannot wrap my head around someone cutting into that show.

Mark
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post #54 of 158
4/21/09 at 7:56pm

Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

Well, according to CBS and TVonDVD.com, it's new printings from the original negatives, so it would SEEM to be much ado about nothing.

I'm thinking CBS has learned a lesson from The Fugitive situation and is trying to head off any problems at the pass. I will admit, having never watched an episode of The Lucy Show, I'm intrigued enough to give this a try.
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post #55 of 158
4/21/09 at 10:01pm

Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

If, in fact, all that's left is the edited masters then that's that. It would be all that they could possibly release. However, let's hope it's totally and really complete. But just because "it's Lucy" doesn't mean that the show's originals were never touched. TV networks do stupid and hideous things without thinking.

I would be shocked if every season of this show came out. Mostly because younger viewers will know little about this show. But you can still see I Love Lucy anywhere you lay your hat. Shows that aren't as well-known (especially to younger buyers) often don't do that well. I would expect a couple of seasons, certainly.

Bottom line: Lots of fans are thrilled to see this release finally happen. Those fans also want multiple seasons of the show to come out. So what to do ? It's very simple actually, BUY THE SHOW! In fact, you might consider buying an extra for your favorite Lucy-loving friend or family member. Either someone who fondly remembers the show or a younger person who'd love to discover it.

If you don't support this release by buying it then you ain't getting more of 'em, folks.
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post #56 of 158
4/21/09 at 10:17pm

Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

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Originally Posted by David Rain
I would be shocked if every season of this show came out. Mostly because younger viewers will know little about this show.

If seldom-seen shows like That Girl, Family Affair, The Doris Day Show, McHale's Navy, ect. can come out on DVD with all of their seasons released, then certianly The Lucy Showcan. Afterall, this TV series stars the one and only Queen of Comedy, Lucille Ball. You can't get any better than that. Not to mention that this series was a consistent top 10 hit back in the 60s with it's very last season being the second most-watched show in the USA.
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post #57 of 158
4/21/09 at 11:34pm

Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

It would seem odd and amazing to find that That Girl and The Doris Day Show would be released in their entirety, but not The Lucy Show.

Only time will tell -- although the last three seasons in Los Angeles are very different from the first three in Danfield, and without Viv (and Lucy's real Lucy characterization) there might be a drop in Season 4 sales.

Lucy fans will also have to sweat out six seasons of Here's Lucy. (I doubt Life With Lucy will ever end up on DVD, but you never know.)
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post #58 of 158
4/22/09 at 12:04am

Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

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Originally Posted by Joe Lugoff
It would seem odd and amazing to find that That Girl and The Doris Day Show would be released in their entirety, but not The Lucy Show.

Only time will tell -- although the last three seasons in Los Angeles are very different from the first three in Danfield, and without Viv (and Lucy's real Lucy characterization) there might be a drop in Season 4 sales.

Well, season 4 does have the last television appearance of William Frawley (TV's "Fred Mertz") not to mention Lucille Ball's favorite 'Lucy' episode ever ("Lucy Dates Dean Martin"). Also, there are additional episodes with the Countess played by Ann Sothern in this season. And there's the episodes that feature Jay North of Dennis the Menace, Bob Crane of Hogan Heroes, Robert Stack of The Untouchables, Art Linkletter, and the much younger-looking Doris Singleton (I Love Lucy's Carolyn Appleby). And not to the mention that very special Christmas episode with Lucy and her all-boy Christmas choir which was the very last episode to feature Lucy's son, Jerry, is included in this season. Plus, we get to see Lucy meet up with Mr. Mooney for the first time in their new hometown as well as Lucy meeting her new best friend, Mary Jane Lewis. These are just some incentives of why some would may want to purchase season 4 if it comes out on DVD.

As for season 5 ... I think this may be the season that will experience the lowest sales or the drop in sales. Afterall, this is the season that has been released continuously by almost every company and their brother. I don't think fans would want to buy more of the same. However, if CBS/Paramount were smart, they would load season 5 up with extras and present the episodes in unedited, crystal clear form. Same goes for Season 6.
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post #59 of 158
4/22/09 at 5:52am

Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

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Originally Posted by Theodore J. Mooney
As for season 5 ... I think this may be the season that will experience the lowest sales or the drop in sales. Afterall, this is the season that has been released continuously by almost every company and their brother. I don't think fans would want to buy more of the same. However, if CBS/Paramount were smart, they would load season 5 up with extras and present the episodes in unedited, crystal clear form. Same goes for Season 6.

I'm in for every season. I'm sure these sets will be as good as the ILL sets, and so we don't have to worry about later seasons not having extras. There will always be promos and things to put on there.

Also, I'll be getting the upcoming Here's Lucy sets, have you guys heard that news (Here's Lucy DVD news: DVDs Planned for Here's Lucy (season sets) | TVShowsOnDVD.com)?

Hopefully everything by Lucy will thus be out.
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post #60 of 158
4/22/09 at 9:10am

Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

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Originally Posted by PaulP
I'm in for every season. I'm sure these sets will be as good as the ILL sets, and so we don't have to worry about later seasons not having extras. There will always be promos and things to put on there.

I plan on getting every season if they come out. After seeing all 156 episodes of this series numerous of times, it would feel weird of not having them all on DVD.


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Originally Posted by PaulP
Also, I'll be getting the upcoming Here's Lucy sets, have you guys heard that news (Here's Lucy DVD news: DVDs Planned for Here's Lucy (season sets) | TVShowsOnDVD.com)?

Hopefully everything by Lucy will thus be out.

Yes, I've heard the news. And I am syked about that too! We are FINALLY getting more Lucy out on DVD ... what a dream come true. But I do have a concern though ... I hope that the sales for Here's Lucy don't take away the sales for The Lucy Show and visa-versa. Both shows, I think, are worth having on DVD and I hope every Lucy fan out there buys them. It definitely would be awesome to see most of the Lucy television out on DVD.
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