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Don't let Nicolas Cage's name on the marquee scare you away, this is the director of The Crow and Dark City (which if you have not seen the Director's Cut, you need to do so) given free reign, and it is amazing, assuming you accept a revelation about 2/3 of the way in. The ambition here is pretty staggering by the end.

Having just seen this, I predict viewers of it will fall into two camps: unabashed love or extreme dislike save for a few scenes (the plane and subway scenes come to mind). How you accept the final third will determine which camp you are placed in. I was confused by Ebert giving it four stars and then hearing others whose opinions I also often agree with eviscerate it, but after seeing it this makes total sense.

I fall into the unabashed love category, and absolutely did not expect to going in. My brother Doug felt the same way. I think Cage actually gives a good performance, and feel like most of the criticism on his part is either residual from other aspects of the movie people don't like or just bandwagon stuff that he admittedly wrought upon himself with multiple disasters such as LaBute's Wicker Man.
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I loved it. It's more ambitious than a typical disaster movie. Not really a surprise coming from Proyas. The closest he's come to generic is I, Robot, by far his weakest work. While certain plot points may be hard to swallow for some, I had no qualms with any of it. Of course, I fully expect the film to be bashed unmercifully by many just because Nicolas Cage is in it. I know people like to criticize Cage every chance they get, but his acting is just fine here. Some of the tender moments between him and his son were actually quite effective from an emotional standpoint. Reading through several of the reviews I've seen, it's clear that some people just have a hate-on for the guy. My girl Rose Byrne shows up halfway through the picture, and while her character is that of a tortured woman relagated to looking distraught and flipping out, she does both well. Her panic at the gas station brought a smile to my face, because I just love watching her work.

Proyas handles the suspense exceptionally, particularly the buildup to the various disasters. The screws turn slowly, but ever so tightly. As for the disasters themselves, the scene with the crashing airliner is wicked in it's execution. Shot in the pouring down rain and all in one take, we witness the crash followed by Cage sulking amidst explosions, burning rubble and burning passengers. The subway sequence isn't as effective. Not even close, really, but the buildup makes up for it. The final disaster, which I won't spoil here, is quite fantastic both in buildup and execution. One scene in relation to the final disaster involves a discovery on the bottom of a bed. I felt that this scene made for a very strong gut punch, just well done all around in leading up to it, music, everything.

Now for some faults... The score could be overpowering at times. I also feel that the final scene was not needed. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
The line about starting over was enough to get the point across, I didn't need to see it. More subtlety would have been most welcome, and ending the film with the earth in cinders would make for a more potent final image.
Aside from that, the worst I can say is that some of the bit actors were a tad sketchy.

Overall, I was very satisfied with the final product. It could've used some tweaking here and there, but most films are flawed in some way or another. The twists in the storyline won't work for everyone. It seems alot of the time a new film tries to shoe in Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
aliens or any sort of spirituality aspect
it gets branded as some sort of new age crap. I don't subscribe to that thought process. I think it's a very strong piece of filmmaking from a filmmaker who doesn't work as often as he should. The masses can have their popcorn films, but I like my popcorn with a few extra layers of butter on top.
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Thank the Lord I wasn't alone! You go around the net and read reviews and the consensus is that this is the end of Alex Proyas...and like Ebert, I just don't see that.

And Justin, I tend to agree with you about the final scene and actually the final sequence to be exact. Once the audience KNOWS, the final sequence (as fantastic as it is in terms of image and destruction..nothing quite like it really) is not really, truly needed. The images Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
above Earth's orbit
do the trick.

As for the Whisper people, did any of you catch Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
their angelic wings when they shed their human forms. That's the image that sold the spiritual aspect of the film to me and in a way flipped the film from what it was presenting in images to what the film actually was. It's sprinkled through out the film with no real connection until that part arrives and then, at least for me, the movie has revealed what it actually was.


I think I need to see it again because I'm entirely sure the film truly works but it feels like it works. But, again, ballsy film by Proyas.
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I thought this was going to be brainless action. And was shocked at how awesome it was. Just caught it this morning.

Revised to add content / thoughts.

I have a feeling this film is going to be fairly polarizing, and the reviews seem to flesh that out. Let's not deny, the first 2/3 of this movie are absolutely incredible. The build of tension as to what's happening and why progresses with great action sequences and some incredible fury.

The films last third does require a leap of faith - not untrue to the story. I've read comments very negative about how the film ends, but as a matter of structure, it simply isn't a God From the Machine ending.. there isn't a master stroke that offers resolution. I found it to be very much the reverse of that. I felt the clues for the "whisper people" were coming throughout the first acts.. but they were subtle, maybe way too subtle, to really dawn on people on a single viewing.


I do have some faults with the story; it is not as tight or as solid as say, "Dark City" but this is an action/horror film that tries to do things very different. I appreciate that.

B+
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I didn't much care for this film, mainly because the story isn't told well at all. There are these leaps you are expected to make as the film gets from its premise to its conclusion that just leaves you scratching your head, even with its allusion to the book of Ezekial (note to screenwriters, if your entire 3rd act is reliant on something that should be explained to most of the viewers, it would behoove the screenwriter to have the film use something to clue in the audience in its storytelling, otherwise, you leave the audience behind, and it just ends up feeling very "deus ex machina-ish". Just a poorly told story.

I give it 2 stars, or a grade of C.
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I'd give perhaps the first 2/3rds of this film really high marks, because it was really nailing the mood and the mystery aspects of the film pretty well. Mood-wise, it was great, though it felt a little derivative of the American version of the The Ring in the way it was presented. The performance by the little girl (haven't bothered to look up her name, sorry) was really great as well because the people I saw it with didn't even guess it was the same girl playing dual roles in two different parts of the film.

The last 1/3rd of the film however, I would like to excise from memory. Once it becomes exceedingly clear where the film is headed and how it's going to end it starts to go downhill. It doesn't really go downhill because of the story itself, but rather I found the imagery used in the last part of the film be so heavy-handed I almost felt insulted. It may as well have been titled "Kirk Cameron's Knowing" by the time you get to the major CGI work in the film, most of which I find used in such a way as to question the audience's intelligence as if to say "We know you just don't get it, so here, we'll show you this and this and this blatantly obvious imagery so you don't have to get a headache thinking so hard to draw the parallels yourself."

I found it so disappointing that the latter part of the film literally erased practically any good feelings I had to the first part of the film until I got home and thought through the movie some more. I may actually buy this film for home viewing but find the best place to just turn off the film so I don't have to see the ending again.
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Just caught up with this now.

Terrific movie cannot wait for the Bluray. I can understand why some might not like it but to me its everything a movie needs to be. The action was so incredible and believable in the way it was executed. The CGI was breathtaking in places not sure why some people on the web slated the VFX at all. Nic Cage was dependable as always and Rose Byrne was also pretty strong considering the way she was acting the part.

However, some choices really hurt this movie commercially:

1: The protracted ending was a major downer no 2 ways about it. It was very bold but way too much happened in a short space of time so I felt overwhelmed by the emotional power of it.

2: The pacing could have done with 10-15 mins trimming out as some shots were too slowly paced.

3: Some scenes really made me feel uncomfortable to such an extent that not sure if I will ever watch the BD much when I get it!!

4: Not releasing this later in the year say in late April did not help as traditionally more people go to these movies in late April than March.
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It's funny, I just recently caught up with this film as well. My reaction is pretty much the same as Paul's. I loved the mystery of the first 2/3rds, and I actually really dug the final 3rd. The tension when leading up to the final event was well played. I really liked the panic at the gas station when the emergency broadcast went out. Also, the suspense felt during the two major accidents was great (although the subway one reminded me of Die Hard: With A Vengeance). The single take scene of the plane crash was very effective.

I also felt the ending showed too much, but not enough to ruin my enjoyment.
Highly recommended.
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I'd mimic most comments above.

I enjoyed the film.
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