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post #31 of 46

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The ONLY way I'd buy a set such as this IF and only IF, maybe, it would've been loaded with the BEST OF Norman Lear taking the top 10 favorite episodes from all his creations - then maybe. This way, what exactly do I have? For most of these shows except for All in the Family, which was great from the get go, I believe they didn't comedically mature until later seasons.
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Originally Posted by Joe*A
The ONLY way I'd buy a set such as this IF and only IF, maybe, it would've been loaded with the BEST OF Norman Lear taking the top 10 favorite episodes from all his creations - then maybe. This way, what exactly do I have? For most of these shows except for All in the Family, which was great from the get go, I believe they didn't comedically mature until later seasons.

That's one of the great tragedies of TV show DVDs. If someone sees a show for the first time on DVD starting with season 1, and the show doesn't hit its stride until later, you would think the show wasn't very good and wouldn't buy subsequent seasons.
post #33 of 46

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Originally Posted by Scott_J
If I can eventually find this set for about half off MSRP ($75), I'd pick it up. Of the shows in the set, All in the Family is the only one I own and so the only one I'd be double-dipping on. It looks like there are some good extras on here (especially the AitF pilots).

Same here, I'd be willing to pick it up second hand, on the cheap. As for a release which will sell, I don't know what Sony is smoking. Fans of the show have the shows and are not going to pay a premium for the other shows they want just for some bonus material.
post #34 of 46

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Wow if it was'nt for Lear opening the Door for discussing Adult subjects we never would have had the Hill Street Blues of the 80's or NYPD Blue of the 90's, or any of the Adult shows on television today.. wow has times changed.. and If I remember my All in the Family well, Mike was made to look the fool with old Idea notions as much as Archie was.. it was alot more even handed than you give it credit for.. It was making a point for not labeling.. Black..white..Liberal.. Conservative.. Pinko..commie.. sad that 40 years later we did'nt learn a thing.
post #35 of 46

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I've seen the full run of AITF many times over the years and Mike was not made to look just as bad as Archie, except for a handful of episodes where it was acknowledged that he could be personally arrogant and thoughtless, but *never* were Mike's specific political/social views subjected to serious challenge (with the solitary exception of an early episode where we see Mike and Archie's different recollections of two repairmen who come over to fix the refridgerator and Mike wrongly remembers the black repairman as a silly Uncle Tom Stepin Fetchit type easily bullied by Archie, while Archie remembers wrongly a Black Power militant with a knife threatening *him*. Both were ultimately wrong). His views always, according to the Lear dictates of the day had to come out on top over Archie even though with the benefit of hindsight so much of what Mike stood for was out of step with the prevailing mood of the country. In fact, there is one moment in the unreleased S7 that sums this up perfectly where Archie finally after being shown up from Mike shouts after him, "You're gonna get Reagan in 1980!" (this is early 1977 keep in mind).
post #36 of 46

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Originally Posted by Jack P
I've seen the full run of AITF many times over the years and Mike was not made to look just as bad as Archie, except for a handful of episodes where it was acknowledged that he could be personally arrogant and thoughtless, but *never* were Mike's specific political/social views subjected to serious challenge (with the solitary exception of an early episode where we see Mike and Archie's different recollections of two repairmen who come over to fix the refridgerator and Mike wrongly remembers the black repairman as a silly Uncle Tom Stepin Fetchit type easily bullied by Archie, while Archie remembers wrongly a Black Power militant with a knife threatening *him*. Both were ultimately wrong). His views always, according to the Lear dictates of the day had to come out on top over Archie even though with the benefit of hindsight so much of what Mike stood for was out of step with the prevailing mood of the country. In fact, there is one moment in the unreleased S7 that sums this up perfectly where Archie finally after being shown up from Mike shouts after him, "You're gonna get Reagan in 1980!" (this is early 1977 keep in mind).

It all depends on your point of view. There are many who think Mike came off just as bad as Archie. Mike was almost never capable of discussing anything and always seemed to be screaming his lungs out on the show. My own opinion is that both Archie and Mike come off as jerks most of the time.
post #37 of 46

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Although Lear would more often than not give the edge to Michael (Meathead) and he made sure that the character standing up for traditional values (Archie) was too stupid to argue eloquently for his side, Lear, when he was at his best, didn't make the debate one sided.
post #38 of 46

Re: The Norman Lear Collection: Sony meatheads reach a new low

Timeless Anthology from “…the Most Influential Television Producer of all Time”
– Associated Press, Christopher Graff

Packed With Six Hours of All-New Bonus Content
Including 11 Featurettes and Two Never-Before-Released Pilot Episodes for “All in the Family”

Includes the Complete First Seasons of …
“All in the Family,” “Sanford and Son,” “Maude,”
“The Jeffersons,” “Good Times,” “One Day at a Time”
and “Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman”

THE NORMAN LEAR COLLECTION


All-New Interviews with Lear and a Legion of Stars Including Bea Arthur, Jimmie Walker, Adrienne Barbeau, Rue McClanahan, Rob Reiner, Bonnie Franklin, Mackenzie Phillips, Louise Lasser and Mary Kay Place

19-DISC DVD COLLECTION DEBUTS JUNE 9




Culver City, Calif. (March 20, 2009) – From legendary producer Norman Lear, known for creating some of the most acclaimed and top-rated television series of all time, comes an all-new Collector’s Set arriving on DVD June 9 from Sony Pictures Home Entertainment. The Norman Lear Collection boasts six hours of newly-produced featurettes and interviews, in addition to the first seasons of seven ground-breaking Emmy® Award-winning shows: “All in the Family,” “Sanford and Son,” “Maude,” “The Jeffersons,” “Good Times,” “One Day at a Time,” and “Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman,” all housed in collectible packaging. This comprehensive set is a bonanza for television fans and will be available for $159.95 SLP.

The collection includes two discs of all-new bonus features including new interviews with Lear, Rob Reiner, Bea Arthur, Adrienne Barbeau, Rue McClanahan, Jimmie Walker, Bonnie Franklin, Mackenzie Phillips, Mary Kay Place and Louise Lasser. The set also includes both never-before-released pilot episodes from “All in the Family” entitled “Those Were The Days,” and the 1971 “lost” pilot, “And Justice For All,” which was originally turned down by ABC, only to be later picked up by CBS.

Fans of classic television will marvel over hours of show-specific featurettes, such as “And Then There’s “Maude”: Television’s First Feminist” featuring intimate interviews with Bea Arthur, Adrienne Barbeau and Rue McClanahan as they reminisce about working together on the series and discuss the significance behind a show that was truly ahead of its time. Also included is The Legacy of a Television Revolutionary, with some of the featured actors talking about how Lear has impacted their lives.

Norman Lear is one of the most well respected, prolific and successful men in the entertainment industry. He has garnered four Emmy Awards® and been inducted into the Television Academy Hall of Fame. He not only has impacted our society through his work in television, but also his philanthropic efforts. As founder of the People for the American Way and the Norman Lear Center at USC’s Annenberg School of Communication, he continues to be a strong voice for First Amendment rights.

All in the Family: The Complete First Season
The Bunkers were one of the most beloved families in television history. Starring Carroll O’Connor as Archie, Jean Stapleton as Edith, Rob Reiner as “Meathead,” and Sally Struthers as Gloria, “All in the Family” changed the face of television forever with its January 12, 1971 premiere. The show broke new ground for addressing controversial subjects in realistic ways and for creating unforgettable characters that soon became a part of pop culture. During its eight-year run, the show received an amazing 48 Emmy Award® nominations and took home 20 trophies with multiple wins for all the lead characters, and three wins for Outstanding Comedy Series.


DVD Special Features Include:
· All-New Featurette: Those Were The Days – The Birth of “All in The Family”
From creation, through the first two pilots, to making it onto the CBS schedule as a mid-season replacement. Lots of stories about casting, character development, network reaction to the pilots and how it was finally rejected by ABC only to be picked up by CBS.
· All-New Featurette: The TV Revolution Begins – “All in the Family” is On the Air
From premiere night on CBS through the airing of 13 episodes, ending with a last-minute pick-up for a second season. Lots of stories and talk about essence of the characters, what the actors brought to their roles and the wonderful chemistry between all 4 members of the cast.
· Never-Before-Released Pilot: “Those Were the Days”
· Never-Before-Released “Lost” 1971 Pilot: “And Justice For All”

Sanford & Son: The First Season
An immediate audience and critic favorite when it debuted in 1972, “Sanford and Son” marked an early milestone in urban TV comedy. As the first sitcom featuring an all African-American cast, “Sanford and Son” ushered that perspective into American homes, defying long established barriers and stereotypes. Starring one-of-a kind comedian Redd Foxx as Fred Sanford, a grumpy old junk dealer living with his long-suffering son Lamont (Demond Wilson) in Los Angeles’ Watts, the show earned seven Emmy Award® nominations between 1972 and 1976 and five Golden Globe® nominations including Best TV Show.

DVD Special Features Include:
· All-New Featurette: Everyone Loves a Clown
Norman Lear talks about the creation of the show, the casting of Redd Foxx, selling the show to NBC deep inside CBS, what Redd brought to the role and the casting of Demond Wilson. Norman is the only "voice" in this piece.

Maude: Season 1
Maude, played masterfully by Beatrice Arthur who won the Emmy Award® for Outstanding Lead Actress in a Comedy Series, was first introduced as Edith Bunker’s outspoken, liberal cousin on “All in the Family.” Her spin-off show, “Maude,” set in Tuckahoe, New York, focuses on the character’s daily adventures at home with fourth husband Walter (Bill Macy), divorced daughter Carol (Adrienne Barbeau), and Carol’s son Phillip. Joining in on the fun is housekeeper Florida (Esther Rolle, TV’s “Good Times”), and conservative next-door neighbor Arthur (Conrad Bain, TV’s “Diff’rent Strokes”). Guest stars include Rue McClanahan (TV’s “The Golden Girls”), John Amos (TV’s “Good Times”), and Tom Bosley (TV’s “Happy Days”).

DVD Special Features Include:
· All-New Featurette: And Then There’s “Maude”: Television’s First Feminist
Interviews with Bea Arthur, Adrienne Barbeau and Rue McClanahan reflecting on the series
· All-New Featurette: Everything But Hemorrhoids: “Maude” Speaks to America
Bea Arthur and Norman Lear reminisce about working together

Good Times: Season One
Starring Emmy Award®-winning actress Esther Rolle (TV’s “Summer of my German Soldier”) and Emmy® nominated actor John Amos (TV’s “Roots”), “Good Times” was that rare hit show which struck a chord with audiences of all colors. A spin-off of “Maude,” “Good Times” altered America’s cultural landscape by tackling topical, often controversial issues from a uniquely African American perspective, while still managing to deliver heart-warming laughs. The trailblazing show highlighting the struggles and laughs of a family on the south side of Chicago also made a star of jive-talkin’ comedian Jimmie Walker whose catch phrase “DY-NO-MITE!” became part of ‘70s pop culture.


DVD Special Features Include:
· All-New Featurette: Ain’t We Lucky We Got ‘Em: “Good Times”
Norman Lear and Jimmie Walker talk about the show and its impact on black audiences

The Jeffersons: Season One
The most successful spin-off series to “All in the Family,” “The Jeffersons,” Starred Emmy Award® nominee Sherman Hemsley and Isabel Sanford, who took home the Emmy Award® in 1981 for Outstanding Actress in a Comedy Series. The series chronicles the rise of fast-talking dry cleaner king George Jefferson and his no-nonsense wife Louise. With his business booming, scrappy George Jefferson decides it’s time to “move on up” to a deluxe hi-rise apartment on Manhattan’s posh Upper East Side. The talented cast of supporting characters includes the Jeffersons’ sassy maid Florence (Marla Gibbs), acid-tongued matriarch Mother Jefferson (Zara Culley), crazy next-door neighbors, interracial couple Helen and Tom Willis (Roxie Roker and Franklin Cover) and Englishman Harry Bentley (Paul Benedict).

DVD Special Features Include:
· All-New Featurette: Movin’ On Up: “The Jeffersons”
Norman Lear reflects back on The Jeffersons

One Day at a Time: The Complete First Season
“One Day at a Time,” Lear’s popular series about a divorced mother raising two headstrong teenage daughters while trying to maintain a career, debuted mid-season in 1975, and remained a top 20 show in the Nielsen ratings for CBS during most of its run. The series stars Emmy Award®-nominee Bonnie Franklin, two-time Golden Globe® winner Valerie Bertinelli, Mackenzie Phillips, Emmy Award® and Golden Globe® winner Pat Harrington, Jr., and Richard Masur.

DVD Special Features Include:
· All-New Featurette: This is It – The Story of “One Day at A Time”
Interviews with Bonnie Franklin, Mackenzie Phillips and Norman Lear

Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman: Volume 1
The broadly-exaggerated spoof of soap opera calamity stars Emmy®-nominee Louise Lasser (Take the Money and Run, Bananas) as the pigtailed, gingham-frocked American housewife from the fictional small town of Fernwood Ohio, along with a talented ensemble featuring Emmy®-winner Mary Kay Place (The Big Chill, TV’s “Big Love”), Dabney Coleman (Nine to Five) and Martin Mull (TV’s “Roseanne”). Ranked by Entertainment Weekly as one of the “100 Greatest TV Shows of All Time” and listed among TV Guide’s “Top 50 Cult Shows in Television History,” “Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman” is the soap opera to satirize all soap operas, dealing with such hot topics as mass murder, exhibitionism, masturbation, impotence and waxy yellow buildup on linoleum floors.


DVD Special Features Include:
· All-New Featurette: “Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman”: Inside the Funhouse Mirror Interviews with Norman Lear, Louise Lasser and Mary Kay Place
· All-New Featurette: The Breakdown
Norman Lear speaks about “the best single performance by an individual in the history of television in my mind is Mary Hartman,” (Referring to Louise Lasser as Mary Hartman having a nervous breakdown in The Breakdown)
· “Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman” – Episode 129
· “Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman” – Episode 130

Other DVD Special Features Include:
· Introduction by Norman Lear
Norman Says “Don’t Miss This!”
· Featurette: The Legacy of a Television Revolutionary
A collection of sound bites from interviewees about how Norman Lear has impacted their lives

The Norman Lear Collection is not rated. Artwork is available at Welcome to SPHE Connect. Visit Sony Pictures Home Entertainment on the Web at Sony Pictures.

DVD Catalog # 27253
UPC Code: 0-43396-27253-8
Order Date: 5/7/09
SLP: $159.95

*Note: Unless otherwise indicated, the term Emmy Award® winner or nominee denotes that the star was recognized for his or her work for the noted Norman Lear series.
post #39 of 46

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Very Impressive. I am a fan of Norman Lear. Why I even have most the season sets of The Jeffersons and All In The Family. Suddenly I'm standing erect, reaching out in front of me for season 7 and I abruptly learn that not only are my arms getting tired from grasping onto air but I realize, after feeling loose soil movement beneath my feet, that I am standing on the edge of a popular cliff titled The Seasons End Here.

For those interested in Norman Lear history, to which I'm sure is quite interesting, this collection is a steal. However, for the sake of your own sanity, do not....I repeat...DO NOT get hooked on these shows. Or you'll be joining thousands of Norman Lear fans asking, "Hey, where's season 7. I won't even get into season 8. I've probably painted a very noticable target on my back so I gotta make tracks. Exit stage left.
post #40 of 46

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Putting aside the merit/lack of merit of this release I noticed the extras for AITF don't include any interviews with Jean Stapleton. She's getting up there in years and hasn't been seen in the public eye in some time. Anyone know how she's doing these days?

Although AITF has not held up well for me, I loved "Edith Bunker" and Jean was a delight in this and anything else she did. It's unfortunate that her character was allowed to die eventually...there's something nice about the way television allows a character, especially a beloved character like Edith, to live in perpetuity even when the actor passes on.
post #41 of 46
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Originally Posted by chas speed
It all depends on your point of view. There are many who think Mike came off just as bad as Archie. Mike was almost never capable of discussing anything and always seemed to be screaming his lungs out on the show. My own opinion is that both Archie and Mike come off as jerks most of the time.

Of course, remember who turned out to be the bigger jerk...when Mike left Gloria and Joey for a hippie chick in a commune (in Archie Bunker's Place IIRC).
post #42 of 46

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Just for the record, Edith was killed off in the second season of Archie Bunker's Place because Jean Stapleton left the show and suggested they write Edith out by killing her. It was not a decision that was made lightly. They didn't really have much choice creatively since they would have to have explained where Edith was. I think it was a brave move.
post #43 of 46

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NO WAY I'm buying this, Sony. Put the rest of the regular seasons of ALL IN THE FAMILY out as you should, and then you'll get my money.
post #44 of 46

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I'll be the small voice in the corner suggesting that the rest of Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman be made available on DVD. Because this set just stinks of Sony sitting on top of a few stacks of TV shows and saying 'how do we get rid of these? I know! Norman Lear Box Set!"
post #45 of 46
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Originally Posted by Nick Zbu
I'll be the small voice in the corner suggesting that the rest of Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman be made available on DVD. Because this set just stinks of Sony sitting on top of a few stacks of TV shows and saying 'how do we get rid of these? I know! Norman Lear Box Set!"

Considering the odds that they will correct a huge gaping error (a missing plot point) with that one is less than zero...
post #46 of 46
Did anyone ever purchase this?  How are the extras/packaging?
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