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JohnMor 
Larry Tate,
you missed the point. Again, those schedules DO NOT show last minute preemptions, only ones scheduled in advance by ABC. Please look at them closely: they DO NOT list an epsiode title, mark it PREEMPT and repeat it again the next week. They simply show a scheduled preemption, and YOU ASSUMED it was the episode shown the following week.
No where is that stated on those schedules.
A simple check of the original TV Guides will confirm that the weeks marked PREEMPT on the schedules you are referring to do not have ANY episode scheduled that week. For example, in Season Two, the week of 3/31/66 had NO EPISODE SCHEDULED. You assumed that
Disappearing Samantha was scheduled that week and then preempted and shown the following week. YOU ARE INCORRECT. TV Guide for 3/31/66 confirms no BW ep scheduled for that day. The following week's TV Guide confirms
DS scheduled as listed by Screen Gems. Having gotten copies of the original productions schedules back in the 70's, I cross referrenced them with EVERY episode listing in TV Guide, both first run and summer reruns.
And, again, you have your facts wrong about productions. When a series finishes production on the last script of a season, say season five, and immediately begins work on the next season, say season six, that becomes the production of season six. Dates do NOT have anything to do with it. In the case of BW, NO season six ep was produced until after the last season five episode wrapped on 3/11/69.
Having worked for Sony and having very close ties with long-time ABC executives, believe me I KNOW what I am talking about. But it's irrelevent, as you obviously prefer to surmise than to listen to someone who actually has the facts. You seem to have trouble with someone posting info you don't have. I'm not sure why.
And I'll be sure to let all my co-workers and clients in production know that their season scehdules are determined by dates. It'll be an eye-opener to learn that we work on the prior season until, say, July 1st, or so, when it automatically becomes THIS season. It's great to learn that the production numbers assigned in advance to each season to track script development and expenses are irrelevent until that magic date change comes into effect. And that everyone's salary stays at last season's rate until that magic date change. All those productions doing it wrong all these years.
No you have missed the point JohnMor & seem to have a problem with simple linear logic & Facts.
No Matter if the preempts were at the last minute or long scheduled you should NOT surmise & ASSUME
that as no episode was on that week that the one the NEXT week was just a random throw in which is exactly what you are saying even there is not any reason or rational or evidence that you can put forth that this is indeed the case
nor is there any proof you can put forth that the episode the next week was not the one that would have been seen the week of the preempt, that is what i have simply been saying but you seem to have a problem grasping this simple reality while not being able to refute it in any way & instead simply regurgitate the same line back that it was a random throwin.
There is no basis you have put forth that DS was not the episode for ex. that would have been seen the week of the preempt if it had not happened & was not simply placed into the slot the next week, you are just saying it was so when you are clearly baseing it on nothing with no ability to back it up.
Nowhere is it stated anywhere that the ep. seen the following week was not the episode that would have been seen if there was no preempt that week.
You are assuming that anything following the preempt week is always a throw in & that there is not any set schedule
of episodes to be seen over the season.
You are the one who is assuming that the ep. the following week was not the scheduled episode the week prior that was a preempt, you have put forth nothing to confirm this or back that up.
Of course no episode was scheduled 3/31/66 as it was known some other event was on, but that has nothing to do with what episode would have been seen if that was not the case, you just assume that as no episode was scheduled that this means it was just a lets pull an episode out of the hat with no order in place, again this is based on nothing but your assumption, so YOU ARE INCORRECT.!!
I don't care what some company calls production or how it refers to the context in which it is determined, that is not the be all or bible about such matters, you seem to have gone off the cliff of tangents here, the whole thing is about episodes filmed one season & then seen the following one, you seem to be unable to see the Forest for the trees on this one.
So you are the one who has YOUR facts wrong & i don't have a problem with anyone disagreeing with me other then when someone does so & is plainly & easily desernably wrong in doing so.
If you want to delineate productions schedules as being a certain way, that is not just because you do, the only way they can be looked upon.
I don't care how you or Sony looks upon that, Dates have everything to do with an episode correlation to a particular seasons production schedule, to say otherwise is absurd & illogical, the essence of a Production schedule is chronological by it's very nature, so if someone else wants to look at it otherwise or catagorize it as such then fine, but that doesn't mean that it is so, no matter how one employee from some company decides to call it, that does not become a universal truth to all.
If the 4 Season 6 episodes were in the middle of the season 5 filming schedule then it would be a part of the season 5
production schedule, in my view no matter if it was at the start, middle or end that it was still a part of that prior seasons production schedule, how any company chooses to look at it matters not as this is not about doing an audit of their books.
So FOUR episodes of SEASON SIX were a part of the SEASON FIVE PRODUCTION schedule.
Obviously you think you know what you are talking about , I don't think you do & that your assumption of this is so &
you think should be proof enough, I don't concur & expect factual documentation & specific proof, your assumption is not enough.
As for your facts I am still waiting for them, that is the point, I want facts not just your saying that it is so just because you worked here or there or know him or her, that is not good enough, facts are what are needing & are sorely lacking in your views which amount to saying it is so just because I know.
In your case you seem to have no info to post, just assumptions & expectations of acceptance of all, that Dog just Ain't gonna Hunt, i want info from all to be posted for the betterment of all our knowledge but it has to be real & not WRONG, why you don't see that i don't know why?
Again whomever you work for or with is not relevant, just because you or they say it is so does not make it so as if congress had passed a law that it was so, I don't care about whom or where you work for, just the facts & something substantial for a change.
I didn't say anything about July.1st, what i am saying is that if an episode is filmed amongst other episodes for a season prior to when it itself is seen then it is done so in the prior seasons production schedule & is a Held back episode, that is what we have been talking about in this thread till you want off the cliff.
Larry Tate :)
Thank you for all the answers as it is fascinating to learn so much on here.
