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post #91 of 99

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For those that think Joan was the lesser of two evils,

can you please educate me on what Annie did wrong? I must have missed it.
post #92 of 99

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Originally Posted by Paul McGowan
For those that think Joan was the lesser of two evils,

can you please educate me on what Annie did wrong? I must have missed it.

i think that annie did an admirable job given what she had to work with. but she was too narrowly focused. her focus was just on money and beating joan. yes she met all of the goals of the task but lets say she raised a little less money but did better with the presence of the party. she probably would have won.

annie's issue is that she is not a true leader. other's don't want to follow her. she doesn't inspire or motivate anyone to work for her.

now i would want her to work FOR me. on my sales team. i may even want her to manage a small group of salespeople. but i would not want her managing managers. she has no vision other than she wants to make more money than her competition. and it takes vision and creativity to win in today's marketplace.

now it is true that making money is a business' bottom line. but the vision, creativity and leadership required to make a business float is a strength that joan had over annie.

perfect example is this. based on what we saw (keep in mind editors) imo, if joan threw another party she would have increased her attendance and raised more money. joan actually used the community and got people involved as well as her rolodex. if annie threw another party i believe her attendance would have dwindled and she would have raised less money. all annie has is a rolodex. she doesn't inspire the community or anyone else to do anything.

the true test of a business' viability is results over time. anyone can make it happen once. but can you deliver month after quarter after year is the question. i doubt that annie could. and i believe that joan can.

i think that anyone that has managed people and more importantly managed leadership can see what i am getting at.

now annie vs. melissa. annie wins hands down no argument.
post #93 of 99

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Originally Posted by Paul McGowan
Is it me, or was the hot golfer lady missing from the finale?

she wasn't the only one missing.

i am sure trump burned two bridges in this season. one, with the comments he gave kardashian before her fired her about drunk driving. two, with how he fired tionne 't-boz' watkins , of pop band tlc fame, essentially for no reason (or in his words because she offered to come back to the board room to defend melissa). she was definitely pissed.



post #94 of 99

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I'm glad Annie "I, I, I, I, I" Duke didn't win.
post #95 of 99

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Originally Posted by MarkMel
I'm glad Annie "I, I, I, I, I" Duke didn't win.

and that is exactly her issue. she only knows how to utilize herself. that is great for poker. she manages herself and manipulates others. BUT, she does not know how to 'manage' anyone else. if she did she would have easily won.

i hope that this has taught her some things and she come out the better for it. but i doubt it. she will continue to play victim.
post #96 of 99

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Originally Posted by Diallo B
i think that annie did an admirable job given what she had to work with. but she was too narrowly focused. her focus was just on money and beating joan. yes she met all of the goals of the task but lets say she raised a little less money but did better with the presence of the party. she probably would have won.

annie's issue is that she is not a true leader. other's don't want to follow her. she doesn't inspire or motivate anyone to work for her.

now i would want her to work FOR me. on my sales team. i may even want her to manage a small group of salespeople. but i would not want her managing managers. she has no vision other than she wants to make more money than her competition. and it takes vision and creativity to win in today's marketplace.

now it is true that making money is a business' bottom line. but the vision, creativity and leadership required to make a business float is a strength that joan had over annie.

perfect example is this. based on what we saw (keep in mind editors) imo, if joan threw another party she would have increased her attendance and raised more money. joan actually used the community and got people involved as well as her rolodex. if annie threw another party i believe her attendance would have dwindled and she would have raised less money. all annie has is a rolodex. she doesn't inspire the community or anyone else to do anything.

the true test of a business' viability is results over time. anyone can make it happen once. but can you deliver month after quarter after year is the question. i doubt that annie could. and i believe that joan can.

i think that anyone that has managed people and more importantly managed leadership can see what i am getting at.

now annie vs. melissa. annie wins hands down no argument.


Great job, that makes sense now. Especially your example. I still think the Rivers family as they appeared on the show are two entirely despicable people.
post #97 of 99

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Originally Posted by AnthonyC
So basically it boiled down to everyone liking Joan so much going into it, because there was no way she was remotely better than Annie. She may have won 3/5 of the final task, but how can you really put fundraising (with Annie raising about three times as much) on equal footing as recognizability of celebrities?
Because the show is a scam. They only want ratings and nothing more. There's no legitimacy to this false contest. No one "deserves" it at all. It's pro-wrestling with Trump playing the role of Vince McMahon. Just mindless entertainment (that I enjoy at times) and nothing more really.
post #98 of 99

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Originally Posted by MikeM
Because the show is a scam. They only want ratings and nothing more. There's no legitimacy to this false contest. No one "deserves" it at all. It's pro-wrestling with Trump playing the role of Vince McMahon. Just mindless entertainment (that I enjoy at times) and nothing more really.

that is why i wish they would go back to the original format which depended on real people actually demonstrating competence. i think we can blame omarosa for the tragedy that the show has become.
post #99 of 99

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Between this travesty and the canceling of the The Chopping Block after only a few weeks. I am not sure I would invest any more time watching NBC reality shows.

It seemed to me that Jesse got fired because he wouldn't bring his wife (Sandra Bullock) onto the show. I thought Jesse was pretty creative and was not utilized well on most of the challenges, but I will give Trump a pass for firing Jesse. But making Joan the winner was just not going to fly with me.

The Chopping block was interesting because Dean is the chef at a local place less than a mile from work. Watching the last shows on my computer is not the same. I mean they only had 7 shows since there were 8 teams right? They canceled it after show 3 or 4.
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