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post #31 of 106
10/8/09 at 6:27pm
Now those are the kind of waits we like!  Very good news! 
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post #32 of 106
10/8/09 at 6:51pm
That's too bad that it's been delayed for such a long time. For fans of the show, I am glad they are doing it right. I won't be buying it. I'll be too busy with the "Here's Lucy" sets by then. It's a shame they make it sound like it will be available soon and then don't release it until almost a year later. It's bad marketing. Consumers don't like waiting months much less a year.   Anyhow, hope you guys enjoy it when it finally comes out.
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post #33 of 106
10/8/09 at 10:31pm
Yeah, we're not gonna buy it because it didn't come out this year.  42 years was a tolerable wait, but 43 means "no sale."  
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post #34 of 106
10/9/09 at 5:24am
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It's a shame they make it sound like it will be available soon and then don't release it until almost a year later.


Delays happen.  Often.  Could be replication delays, licensing
issues, the opportunity to get more material which puts things 
on hold, etc.

Many people on this forum familiar with announced projects
will easily tell you that they don't always happen on schedule.

Heck, some of us are still waiting for releases that were
announced YEARS ago (such as The Bowery Boys, Twilight's
Last Gleaming, etc.).

Honestly...I never thought this show would see the light of day.

I mean, it wasn't a huge success.  Most people don't remember
it.

For me, however, I have been looking for this show for years.
I thought I was only one of the few who did remember it.  Saw
it as a kid -- barely remember any of the episodes -- but I do
recall laughing hard at it.  It was also the first time I became a
fan of Kaye Ballard.  I loved her comedy.  Next to Lucy, I would
put her as my as my favorite slapstick comedienne. 
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post #35 of 106
10/9/09 at 6:44am
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Originally Posted by JohnMor View Post

Yeah, we're not gonna buy it because it didn't come out this year.  42 years was a tolerable wait, but 43 means "no sale."  

 

Well, I didn't mean it that way. I'm just not a fan of the show. I was going to pick it up as a casual buy if it was available. But I've since had to pick up some other shows ("The Patty Duke Show", "Fame", "Cagney & Lacey" and "Charles In Charge"). So I have enough things to catch up on. I was just interested in it because it looked funny from the previews. I was going to bump it up and watch it right away. When I saw the lack of news and then the final update, I realized it won't be happening anytime soon. But, like I said, I'm glad for the real fans that it is coming out at some point.
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post #36 of 106
10/9/09 at 8:53am
We're all entitled to our own opinions, but I have to laugh here.  On the one hand, people complain when Series X comes out in slipshod cutdown syndication prints.  Then others complain when Series Y doesn't come out within a few weeks of its initial announcement.  Can't you see why operations like MPI and Shout can't win here?

You can't have it both ways.  MPI could have released old video transfers of The Mothers-in-Law and they would have been on the shelves within a few months.  But everyone involved, including the Arnaz estate and the producers of this DVD want to see this through right, because even though the series itself may not be any "I Love Lucy", they respect the talents of everyone involved, from Lucy veterans Desi Arnaz, Bob Carroll and Madelyn Davis to on-screen legends Eve Arden and Kaye Ballard.  In order to do it right with decent-looking full-length transfers, there's lots of work to be done.  While this work is progressing, other bonus material is coming to light to make this project just a little bit special.  If you don't care about The Mothers-in-Law, move on to shows you do care about.  If you do care about The Mothers-in-Law, I think you'll find the wait worthwhile.
Edited by Rob_Ray - 10/9/09 at 2:55pm
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post #37 of 106
10/9/09 at 9:40am
Sorry. Didn't mean to turn this into a huge argument. I was just posting my opinion. I think MPI jumped the gun placing previews on the dvds and putting the coverart in the insert of "The Lucy Show". That's all. It's now a fact they were nowhere near putting this release on store shelves. 
Edited by Robert13 - 10/9/09 at 9:51am
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post #38 of 106
10/9/09 at 9:54am

Robert,

I'm glad you're keeping the thread going, because any discussion of The Mothers-in-Law here on the forum can only help to raise public awareness for  a release I'm really looking forward to.

That's what forums like this are for -- civil arguments and discussions.  Argue away!


Edited by Rob_Ray - 10/9/09 at 10:15am
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post #39 of 106
10/9/09 at 10:12am
Hey, my pleasure.   Maybe you can do that one day for one of my favorite shows.
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post #40 of 106
10/9/09 at 11:51am
I have to give credit to the Arnaz/Ball estates (which would be their kids, wouldn't it?)  If it's Lucie and Desi, Jr. making the decisions, apparently they want their parents' legacy done right.  They were willing to spend the money on beautiful restorations of "Here's Lucy," which otherwise might have ended up like its exact contemporary "The Doris Day Show."  Maybe they're doing the same for "The Mothers-in-Law."
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post #41 of 106
10/9/09 at 2:14pm
Robert,

You certainly did not turn this into a huge argument.

Once you are familiar with how DVD release schedules
work, you become more accepting of the fact that things
happen along the way between announcement and release.

I just think, as others here have suggested, that the
studio is alloting more time to put out a quality product.
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post #42 of 106
10/10/09 at 8:46pm
I think it's smart of MPI to get the "Mothers In Law" name out there, so the people who remember it will be awaiting the release of the set, and to maybe hook people who have never heard of the show into wanting to buy it.

I think it's even more intelligent of them to delay the final product to give the consumer the best possible quality product they can.

I mean, when we first heard about this, it was just "Season 1". Since that initial rumor, we've been told the complete series is being released at one time.

I'd say that's worth a bit of a wait.
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post #43 of 106
10/15/09 at 8:53pm
It's a funny, funny show. Having seen a few of them not long ago, I can tell you that it is a show that holds up quite well.

As to the old, why does X come out and why doesn't Y and Z come out. It all comes down to ownership. Any show like this that is independently owned has a much greater chance of a release than shows owned by the major studios. A company like MPI can't get shows from the majors but they can get The Doris Day Show from her, Here's Lucy and Mothers In Law from Lucie Arnaz, the lost Honeymooners from the Gleason estate, and so on. But if a show is owned by CBS/Paramount or Warner, forget it. If they don't release it, it ain't coming out.
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post #44 of 106
1/10/10 at 4:23pm
It says on Kaye Ballard's website that...
"Kaye has just finished recording an interview to be included on the Fall 2010 (this time it's TRUE) release of the entire series of THE MOTHERS-IN-LAW!"

http://www.kayeballard.com/news.html
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post #45 of 106
1/11/10 at 1:36pm
Brilliant to hear that this series is still on track.

I have very fond memories of this programme.
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post #46 of 106
1/11/10 at 3:22pm
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Originally Posted by pghjerry View Post

It says on Kaye Ballard's website that...
"Kaye has just finished recording an interview to be included on the Fall 2010 (this time it's TRUE) release of the entire series of THE MOTHERS-IN-LAW!"

http://www.kayeballard.com/news.html

Wah haaaa!!! You go, Kaye!!! We love you!
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post #47 of 106
1/13/10 at 4:51pm
All this talk of the Mothers-In-Law led me to look online for it. I did find a very badly transferred episode on youtube; watched it anyway. This was my first look at the show since it aired in syndication in the early 70s. It was the terribly funny episode where they were trapped inside a department store in the middle of the night, and they kept calling Desi Arnaz's character--who was supposedly trying to sleep at his home in Spain--to try and alert the authorities to get them out. Everything came back to me. Hadn't seen this episode since about 1973 or thereabouts. I remembered how much I loved the dynamic and jazzy theme music and the rapid-fire dialogue, along with Eve Arden's perfect delivery and Kaye's incredulous retorts. Everything was terrific about this series. I think it didn't succeed because of bad timing or scheduling, or maybe it just seemed a little old hat for the 60s. But whatever--it really was good.  What to compare it to...hmm, well there's the obvious comparison with I Love Lucy (Desi obviously had his hand in both) but TMIL seemed more to me like an older gal's version of Laverne and Shirley. I think if you like either of those shows (and who doesn't?) you should have a look at TMIL. And for the record, the delay makes me anticipate the release of this show more, not less.
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post #48 of 106
1/14/10 at 8:34am
I'm really looking forward to seeing "The Mothers-in-Law" on DVD after viewing inferior prints elsewhere over the years.  A lot of the people who had a hand in making "I Love Lucy" the all-time classic it is had a hand in "The Mothers-in-Law" and their expertise made the show as good as it was.  Eve and Kaye were really the whole show, as Herbert Rudley and Roger C. Carmel/Richard Deacon were merely their foils and the kids always just stood there caught in the middle.

The show was a success scheduled between the Wonderful World of Disney and Bonanza, but it was considered old-school comedy in the days of "Laugh-In" and I suspect it skewed to an older demographic then the sponsors would have liked.  And I suspect the friction over the recasting of Kaye's husband after only one season didn't help to engender audience loyalty either.

Whatever the reason that it only lasted two seasons, it never "jumped the shark" and the last episode is as solid as the first one.  I'm glad they decided to release the entire series in one package.
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post #49 of 106
1/14/10 at 2:00pm
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Originally Posted by Rob_Ray View Post

I'm really looking forward to seeing "The Mothers-in-Law" on DVD after viewing inferior prints elsewhere over the years.  A lot of the people who had a hand in making "I Love Lucy" the all-time classic it is had a hand in "The Mothers-in-Law" and their expertise made the show as good as it was.  Eve and Kaye were really the whole show, as Herbert Rudley and Roger C. Carmel/Richard Deacon were merely their foils and the kids always just stood there caught in the middle.

I remember those poor hapless kids; they were always, er, cuddling in bed when someone would press the darn garage door opener on them. Cuddleus Interruptus. I didn't see the show in its original airing; it suddenly popped up on a local station circa 1972. I remember my family trying to get me to watch it. I was about 6, (and yes, we had video baby sitters back in those days, for those of you who think it's something new). I remember thinking this show was totally hysterical, even at that young age. The brief (and scratchy) prints I saw online didn't do anything to damage its brand of comedy.
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post #50 of 106
1/14/10 at 2:49pm
 You guys really have me excited to see this show for the first time.
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post #51 of 106
1/14/10 at 3:06pm
You know, I am very careful about getting everyone's
expectations incredibly high on this show if they have
never seen it before.

Let me tell you my story.

I VIVIDLY remember watching this show as a kid. 
I loved the show.  Thought it was the best thing
since sliced bread.  It was the first time I ever heard
of Kaye Ballard and Eve Arden and I became avid
fans of theirs ever since.

It was one of those shows that came and went.
Over the years I had often thought of the show but
I never imagined anyone would want to release it
to DVD.  I knew as a kid it was pretty funny stuff,
but for a show that lasted only a season or two I
never imagined there would be much interest in it.

Now mind you, I haven't seen this show in nearly
40 years.  I can't even remember if it came out in
the late 60s or early 70s.  I must have been around
10 years old when I originally saw it.  Still have not
gotten around to YouTube to watch it as I want to
experience it on DVD fresh.

The reason why I am so hesitant to say this is
the series you MUST buy is because I have found
so many shows that I thought were hilarious as a
kid don't hold up as an adult.   Two shows come
to mind: GET SMART and THE MONKEES.  Bought
both boxed sets when they came out thinking I

would be laughing endlessly at them.  GET SMART

didn't seem as funny as I remembered it.  THE

MONKEES was a huge yawner.  Couldn't believe
I loved that show so much as a kid.

Still, based on the talent that comprised THE

MOTHERS-IN-LAW I am very optimistic that the
show has held up well over the years.

 

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post #52 of 106
1/14/10 at 3:39pm
A friend gave me a collection of about 18 episodes evenly spread across both seasons, including both the first episode and the last.  In truth, I can't say it *has* held up that well over the years, although it's probably as good as it ever was.  It always was a retread of the Ricardos vs. the Mertzes of "I Love Lucy" without the inspired comic timing Lucy brought to the situations.  Eve is in her element when tossing off witty barbs, but has no real physical comedy genius.  And Kaye is like an Italian Carmen Miranda.  Subtlety is not her forte.  As I say, it's just those two putting over the occasionally silly material with little assistance from the rest of the cast.  But Kaye was never better than than she is here and Eve Arden is, well, Eve Arden.

A friend and I were discussing the pros and cons of "The Mothers-in-Law" a while back.  He pointed out that he watched "The Mothers-in-Law" every Sunday night and "Here's Lucy" the next night.  As much as he enjoyed Eve and Kaye, he felt each show offered him half of what he was really looking for, which was to see Lucille Ball and the old "I Love Lucy" format back on the air in one show.  He wished he could take the cast of one show and mix it with the writing and overall format of the other.
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post #53 of 106
1/14/10 at 3:42pm
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Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein View Post


Still, based on the talent that comprised THE

MOTHERS-IN-LAW I am very optimistic that the
show has held up well over the years.


I agree; that's why I posted the thing about me seeing a bit of it online the other day. It was a very crummy-looking clip, but the humor still shined through. I know it can be difficult to recommend things in your position, but I will personally recommend it to anyone who enjoys comedy on the level of The Lucy Show, or maybe Laverne & Shirley. I too, had the same problem you did with Get Smart very recently; it just didn't pop the way it used to, for me. But TMIL still did, even in that yucky little online video...
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post #54 of 106
1/15/10 at 11:02am
I don't think fans of I LOVE LUCY should get their hopes up too high for THE MOTHERS-IN-LAW.  It has its moments, but it doesn't come close to the level of I LOVE LUCY.

The two problems I remember are first, that the scripts weren't very good.  They don't have the funny lines that I LOVE LUCY had.  The LUCY writers Arnaz brought over were Madelyn Pugh Martin Davis and Bob Carroll, Jr. and their forte was coming up with situations and physical comedy -- they weren't very good with funny lines.  (Their scripts for HERE'S LUCY also demonstrate that.  The verbal humor of I LOVE LUCY was mainly due to the other writers, Oppenheimer and later Schiller and Weiskopf.)

Secondly, Arnaz had the show performed in the I LOVE LUCY style of everyone talking loudly, but it struck me that Arden and Ballard just overdid it -- everything was too broad and overdone.

Excuses can be made, but there was a reason why the show only ran two seasons -- it just wasn't very good.  Compared to other late 1960s sitcoms, it might be ok, but compared to I LOVE LUCY, it falls very short.
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post #55 of 106
1/15/10 at 1:08pm
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Originally Posted by Joe Lugoff View Post

Excuses can be made, but there was a reason why the show only ran two seasons -- it just wasn't very good.  Compared to other late 1960s sitcoms, it might be ok, but compared to I LOVE LUCY, it falls very short.

Well, so does every other sitcom ever made.
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post #56 of 106
1/16/10 at 12:07pm
I have to agree with Joe Lugoff on this one.  I have watched the entire series uncut in pristine transfers over the past 6 months and I found my affectionate memories of it sadly unfulfilled.  It can be amusing at times, but the overall scope of it for me now is as a garishly colored, stridently loud, inordinately campy and anachronistic, unnecessary retread of I LOVE LUCY.  

However, humor and nostalgia are very subjective, so I hope that everyone who is eagerly anticipating seeing this again or for the first time, finds it as entertaining as they hope it will be and are justly satiated with a quality release. :)
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post #57 of 106
1/16/10 at 12:53pm
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Originally Posted by Point-Blank View Post

I have to agree with Joe Lugoff on this one.  I have watched the entire series uncut in pristine transfers over the past 6 months and I found my affectionate memories of it sadly unfulfilled.  It can be amusing at times, but the overall scope of it for me now is as a garishly colored, stridently loud, inordinately campy and anachronistic, unnecessary retread of I LOVE LUCY.  

However, humor and nostalgia are very subjective, so I hope that everyone who is eagerly anticipating seeing this again or for the first time, finds it as entertaining as they hope it will be and are justly satiated with a quality release. :)
If you had access to pristine transfers, then hopefully MPI has access to those same transfers. I quite agree with the fact that the show was strident; that just made it funnier in my viewpoint. Well, if you're going to hire Kaye Ballard, then your show is gonna be kinda loud. That's just what this show is. You're not going to get any heartfelt comments on the human condition; you're gonna get loud comedy. You want gentle, go watch Little House on the Prairie (and even that show had that loudmouthed Nellie and her highstrung mother).
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post #58 of 106
1/16/10 at 1:05pm
Uh, I don't think I asked for "heartfelt comments on the human condition," but perhaps you just meant your response in general and not directly aimed at me. 

As I said in my post, humor is subjective.  I loved the show when I was a kid and embraced the loudness, now I prefer a bit more of a subtle and creative approach than just redressing a prior series. 

I also hope that MPI gets prints as good as the ones I watched, it will be a pleasure for all its fans to see the show looking even better than it appeared on those early color sets back in the day.
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post #59 of 106
1/16/10 at 1:31pm
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Originally Posted by Point-Blank View Post

I have to agree with Joe Lugoff on this one.  I have watched the entire series uncut in pristine transfers over the past 6 months and I found my affectionate memories of it sadly unfulfilled.  It can be amusing at times, but the overall scope of it for me now is as a garishly colored, stridently loud, inordinately campy and anachronistic, unnecessary retread of I LOVE LUCY.  

However, humor and nostalgia are very subjective, so I hope that everyone who is eagerly anticipating seeing this again or for the first time, finds it as entertaining as they hope it will be and are justly satiated with a quality release. :)


Thanks for that info, Walker.  I certainly agree with you that humor and nostalgia are highly subjective things and a "to each his own" mentality is always best.  I have a feeling I'm going to agree with you on how this show holds up for me now as an adult.

Gary "wish my biggest remaining dream would come true - a completion of 'Leave it to Beaver' on DVD" O.
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post #60 of 106
1/16/10 at 1:47pm
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Uh, I don't think I asked for "heartfelt comments on the human condition," but perhaps you just meant your response in general and not directly aimed at me. 

As I said in my post, humor is subjective.  I loved the show when I was a kid and embraced the loudness, now I prefer a bit more of a subtle and creative approach than just redressing a prior series. 

I also hope that MPI gets prints as good as the ones I watched, it will be a pleasure for all its fans to see the show looking even better than it appeared on those early color sets back in the day.
He was referrring to the show not you offering "heartfelt comments on the human condition".
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